28 Jan 2015, 3:53 am
slave wrote:
Again the deep love and compassion of the Christ is manifest in the lives of His servants.
This couple had RESCUED 3 children from Liberia and adopted them, to add to their family of 6 biological children.
The wife (allegedly) held down the child as her husband (allegedly) beat her for hours until she died.
Another Liberian child was also (allegedly) beaten in like manner and is in critical condition.
full story at CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/da-kevin-and-elizabeth-schatz-killed-daughter-with-religious-whips-for-mispronouncing-word/
They were just following the Biblical recommendation apparently.
The article makes reference to this book(i believe) as well http://nogreaterjoy.org/shop/to-train-up-a-child-book
"The best child-training manual ever written says, “The rod and reproof give wisdom” (Proverbs 29:15)."
"Biblical training will incorporate the principle of the rod as a reinforcement to parental commands."
"I am sorry the psychologists and secular child advocates don’t get it...."
"We obey God in applying the rod of training, not because we are gullible and blind religious fools, but because the Word of God has made us wise beyond our secular peers. We know what is good for our children. We know it from experience, our own and the experience of our forefathers who walked in wisdom applying the rod of correction to our backsides. Some of us don’t remember any of the much-talked-about “cruel beatings” that are attributed to our “strong disciplinarian” forefathers.....Since our Heavenly Father chastens us (Hebrews 12), could we do otherwise than to emulate his child-training methods?"
This couple had RESCUED 3 children from Liberia and adopted them, to add to their family of 6 biological children.
The wife (allegedly) held down the child as her husband (allegedly) beat her for hours until she died.
Another Liberian child was also (allegedly) beaten in like manner and is in critical condition.
full story at CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/da-kevin-and-elizabeth-schatz-killed-daughter-with-religious-whips-for-mispronouncing-word/
They were just following the Biblical recommendation apparently.
The article makes reference to this book(i believe) as well http://nogreaterjoy.org/shop/to-train-up-a-child-book
"The best child-training manual ever written says, “The rod and reproof give wisdom” (Proverbs 29:15)."
"Biblical training will incorporate the principle of the rod as a reinforcement to parental commands."
"I am sorry the psychologists and secular child advocates don’t get it...."
"We obey God in applying the rod of training, not because we are gullible and blind religious fools, but because the Word of God has made us wise beyond our secular peers. We know what is good for our children. We know it from experience, our own and the experience of our forefathers who walked in wisdom applying the rod of correction to our backsides. Some of us don’t remember any of the much-talked-about “cruel beatings” that are attributed to our “strong disciplinarian” forefathers.....Since our Heavenly Father chastens us (Hebrews 12), could we do otherwise than to emulate his child-training methods?"
I will pray that our Heavenly Father will use his wisdom and omnipotence to see to it that they are both sodomized against their will in prison.
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28 Jan 2015, 4:02 am
Orangez wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:
Don't blame Christianity for it. Blame crazy for it, cause that's what caused it. It's the same with 9/11, that wasn't because of Islam, that was because of crazy. When crazy people get involved in a religion, any religion, if they are the right kind of crazy and crazy enough, then they are likely to misinterpret something in it and do something horrible because of it.
Just because somebody uses a religion to do something bad, it doesn't mean the religion is bad. Also, before you start bringing up parts of the Bible and the Koran where it says to kill somebody or keep somebody as a slave or what have you, remember the times it was written it, and the context of the verse itself. Also, remember that most people who are members of whatever religion it is, live their lives everyday without deciding to strictly follow that particular verse. Most people use common sense.
Just because somebody uses a religion to do something bad, it doesn't mean the religion is bad. Also, before you start bringing up parts of the Bible and the Koran where it says to kill somebody or keep somebody as a slave or what have you, remember the times it was written it, and the context of the verse itself. Also, remember that most people who are members of whatever religion it is, live their lives everyday without deciding to strictly follow that particular verse. Most people use common sense.
How can one not blame christian when the bible says "All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)." Enjoy your stay in hell, heathen.
The context of those laws should be taken into consideration, also what the whole Bible says as well. I'm not Christian, although I was raised as one and am Catholic "on paper" and such but don't go. I'm actually Pagan and have been for years. Most Christians I know use common sense for most of it, although a whole lot of them are fixated on the Levitical law about same sex sex. Of course a lot of them don't wear the proper beards and wear mixed fabric clothing and eat shellfish, but most do use common sense about major crimes such as murder.
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My forum is still there and everyone is welcome to come join as well. There is a private women only subforum there if anyone is interested. Also, there is no CAPTCHA.
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28 Jan 2015, 4:06 am
28 Jan 2015, 4:10 am
Lazar_Kaganovich wrote:
slave wrote:
Again the deep love and compassion of the Christ is manifest in the lives of His servants.
This couple had RESCUED 3 children from Liberia and adopted them, to add to their family of 6 biological children.
The wife (allegedly) held down the child as her husband (allegedly) beat her for hours until she died.
Another Liberian child was also (allegedly) beaten in like manner and is in critical condition.
full story at CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/da-kevin-and-elizabeth-schatz-killed-daughter-with-religious-whips-for-mispronouncing-word/
They were just following the Biblical recommendation apparently.
The article makes reference to this book(i believe) as well http://nogreaterjoy.org/shop/to-train-up-a-child-book
"The best child-training manual ever written says, “The rod and reproof give wisdom” (Proverbs 29:15)."
"Biblical training will incorporate the principle of the rod as a reinforcement to parental commands."
"I am sorry the psychologists and secular child advocates don’t get it...."
"We obey God in applying the rod of training, not because we are gullible and blind religious fools, but because the Word of God has made us wise beyond our secular peers. We know what is good for our children. We know it from experience, our own and the experience of our forefathers who walked in wisdom applying the rod of correction to our backsides. Some of us don’t remember any of the much-talked-about “cruel beatings” that are attributed to our “strong disciplinarian” forefathers.....Since our Heavenly Father chastens us (Hebrews 12), could we do otherwise than to emulate his child-training methods?"
This couple had RESCUED 3 children from Liberia and adopted them, to add to their family of 6 biological children.
The wife (allegedly) held down the child as her husband (allegedly) beat her for hours until she died.
Another Liberian child was also (allegedly) beaten in like manner and is in critical condition.
full story at CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/da-kevin-and-elizabeth-schatz-killed-daughter-with-religious-whips-for-mispronouncing-word/
They were just following the Biblical recommendation apparently.
The article makes reference to this book(i believe) as well http://nogreaterjoy.org/shop/to-train-up-a-child-book
"The best child-training manual ever written says, “The rod and reproof give wisdom” (Proverbs 29:15)."
"Biblical training will incorporate the principle of the rod as a reinforcement to parental commands."
"I am sorry the psychologists and secular child advocates don’t get it...."
"We obey God in applying the rod of training, not because we are gullible and blind religious fools, but because the Word of God has made us wise beyond our secular peers. We know what is good for our children. We know it from experience, our own and the experience of our forefathers who walked in wisdom applying the rod of correction to our backsides. Some of us don’t remember any of the much-talked-about “cruel beatings” that are attributed to our “strong disciplinarian” forefathers.....Since our Heavenly Father chastens us (Hebrews 12), could we do otherwise than to emulate his child-training methods?"
I will pray that our Heavenly Father will use his wisdom and omnipotence to see to it that they are both sodomized against their will in prison.
I don't understand the concept of revenge very well. We send people to prison as punishment, not for punishment. Everyone in prison should be as free from assaults as we can reasonably provide them.
Wishing assaults on them by other prisoners shows your character to be little better than theirs.
28 Jan 2015, 4:23 am
28 Jan 2015, 4:36 am
28 Jan 2015, 5:21 am
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28 Jan 2015, 6:06 am
Orangez wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:
The context of those laws should be taken into consideration, also what the whole Bible says as well. I'm not Christian, although I was raised as one and am Catholic "on paper" and such but don't go. I'm actually Pagan and have been for years. Most Christians I know use common sense for most of it, although a whole lot of them are fixated on the Levitical law about same sex sex. Of course a lot of them don't wear the proper beards and wear mixed fabric clothing and eat shellfish, but most do use common sense about major crimes such as murder.
Therefore, they are going to hell as they are not following god's word by their own belief. Is it too hard to ask for logical consistence? If one wants to believe in their so called god one has to take the good with the bad. Hence, they are saying that they have a superior morality than god? Is that not a sin? How can one be better than the perfect being?
Most people think God wants them to use their common sense. The New Testament also talks about how some of the stuff in the Old Testament doesn't have to be followed. People don't usually think that they have to follow every little bit of everything. They also believe that God is forgiving. Also, many denominations differ from each other about what they follow and how much importance they give to the Old Testament, and even sects within denominations differ.
I don't think everybody applies your dogmatic views to their dogma
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I'm giving it another shot. We will see.
My forum is still there and everyone is welcome to come join as well. There is a private women only subforum there if anyone is interested. Also, there is no CAPTCHA.
The link to the forum is http://www.rightplanet.proboards.com
28 Jan 2015, 7:23 am
28 Jan 2015, 7:27 am
28 Jan 2015, 7:34 am
28 Jan 2015, 4:30 pm
eric76 wrote:
Lazar_Kaganovich wrote:
slave wrote:
Again the deep love and compassion of the Christ is manifest in the lives of His servants.
This couple had RESCUED 3 children from Liberia and adopted them, to add to their family of 6 biological children.
The wife (allegedly) held down the child as her husband (allegedly) beat her for hours until she died.
Another Liberian child was also (allegedly) beaten in like manner and is in critical condition.
full story at CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/da-kevin-and-elizabeth-schatz-killed-daughter-with-religious-whips-for-mispronouncing-word/
They were just following the Biblical recommendation apparently.
The article makes reference to this book(i believe) as well http://nogreaterjoy.org/shop/to-train-up-a-child-book
"The best child-training manual ever written says, “The rod and reproof give wisdom” (Proverbs 29:15)."
"Biblical training will incorporate the principle of the rod as a reinforcement to parental commands."
"I am sorry the psychologists and secular child advocates don’t get it...."
"We obey God in applying the rod of training, not because we are gullible and blind religious fools, but because the Word of God has made us wise beyond our secular peers. We know what is good for our children. We know it from experience, our own and the experience of our forefathers who walked in wisdom applying the rod of correction to our backsides. Some of us don’t remember any of the much-talked-about “cruel beatings” that are attributed to our “strong disciplinarian” forefathers.....Since our Heavenly Father chastens us (Hebrews 12), could we do otherwise than to emulate his child-training methods?"
This couple had RESCUED 3 children from Liberia and adopted them, to add to their family of 6 biological children.
The wife (allegedly) held down the child as her husband (allegedly) beat her for hours until she died.
Another Liberian child was also (allegedly) beaten in like manner and is in critical condition.
full story at CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/da-kevin-and-elizabeth-schatz-killed-daughter-with-religious-whips-for-mispronouncing-word/
They were just following the Biblical recommendation apparently.
The article makes reference to this book(i believe) as well http://nogreaterjoy.org/shop/to-train-up-a-child-book
"The best child-training manual ever written says, “The rod and reproof give wisdom” (Proverbs 29:15)."
"Biblical training will incorporate the principle of the rod as a reinforcement to parental commands."
"I am sorry the psychologists and secular child advocates don’t get it...."
"We obey God in applying the rod of training, not because we are gullible and blind religious fools, but because the Word of God has made us wise beyond our secular peers. We know what is good for our children. We know it from experience, our own and the experience of our forefathers who walked in wisdom applying the rod of correction to our backsides. Some of us don’t remember any of the much-talked-about “cruel beatings” that are attributed to our “strong disciplinarian” forefathers.....Since our Heavenly Father chastens us (Hebrews 12), could we do otherwise than to emulate his child-training methods?"
I will pray that our Heavenly Father will use his wisdom and omnipotence to see to it that they are both sodomized against their will in prison.
I don't understand the concept of revenge very well. We send people to prison as punishment, not for punishment. Everyone in prison should be as free from assaults as we can reasonably provide them.
Wishing assaults on them by other prisoners shows your character to be little better than theirs.
The concept of revenge is to impose a cost on people who do bad things to you and others. It's very game theoretic. If people who do things like this aren't made to suffer, then they will feel vindicated by their choices.
Contrary to popular belief, in cases like this 2 wrongs do make a right.
28 Jan 2015, 5:25 pm
28 Jan 2015, 8:52 pm
Lazar_Kaganovich wrote:
eric76 wrote:
Lazar_Kaganovich wrote:
slave wrote:
Again the deep love and compassion of the Christ is manifest in the lives of His servants.
This couple had RESCUED 3 children from Liberia and adopted them, to add to their family of 6 biological children.
The wife (allegedly) held down the child as her husband (allegedly) beat her for hours until she died.
Another Liberian child was also (allegedly) beaten in like manner and is in critical condition.
full story at CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/da-kevin-and-elizabeth-schatz-killed-daughter-with-religious-whips-for-mispronouncing-word/
They were just following the Biblical recommendation apparently.
The article makes reference to this book(i believe) as well http://nogreaterjoy.org/shop/to-train-up-a-child-book
"The best child-training manual ever written says, “The rod and reproof give wisdom” (Proverbs 29:15)."
"Biblical training will incorporate the principle of the rod as a reinforcement to parental commands."
"I am sorry the psychologists and secular child advocates don’t get it...."
"We obey God in applying the rod of training, not because we are gullible and blind religious fools, but because the Word of God has made us wise beyond our secular peers. We know what is good for our children. We know it from experience, our own and the experience of our forefathers who walked in wisdom applying the rod of correction to our backsides. Some of us don’t remember any of the much-talked-about “cruel beatings” that are attributed to our “strong disciplinarian” forefathers.....Since our Heavenly Father chastens us (Hebrews 12), could we do otherwise than to emulate his child-training methods?"
This couple had RESCUED 3 children from Liberia and adopted them, to add to their family of 6 biological children.
The wife (allegedly) held down the child as her husband (allegedly) beat her for hours until she died.
Another Liberian child was also (allegedly) beaten in like manner and is in critical condition.
full story at CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/da-kevin-and-elizabeth-schatz-killed-daughter-with-religious-whips-for-mispronouncing-word/
They were just following the Biblical recommendation apparently.
The article makes reference to this book(i believe) as well http://nogreaterjoy.org/shop/to-train-up-a-child-book
"The best child-training manual ever written says, “The rod and reproof give wisdom” (Proverbs 29:15)."
"Biblical training will incorporate the principle of the rod as a reinforcement to parental commands."
"I am sorry the psychologists and secular child advocates don’t get it...."
"We obey God in applying the rod of training, not because we are gullible and blind religious fools, but because the Word of God has made us wise beyond our secular peers. We know what is good for our children. We know it from experience, our own and the experience of our forefathers who walked in wisdom applying the rod of correction to our backsides. Some of us don’t remember any of the much-talked-about “cruel beatings” that are attributed to our “strong disciplinarian” forefathers.....Since our Heavenly Father chastens us (Hebrews 12), could we do otherwise than to emulate his child-training methods?"
I will pray that our Heavenly Father will use his wisdom and omnipotence to see to it that they are both sodomized against their will in prison.
I don't understand the concept of revenge very well. We send people to prison as punishment, not for punishment. Everyone in prison should be as free from assaults as we can reasonably provide them.
Wishing assaults on them by other prisoners shows your character to be little better than theirs.
The concept of revenge is to impose a cost on people who do bad things to you and others. It's very game theoretic. If people who do things like this aren't made to suffer, then they will feel vindicated by their choices.
Contrary to popular belief, in cases like this 2 wrongs do make a right.
Being imprisoned for the rest of their lives isn't punishment?
28 Jan 2015, 8:57 pm
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