The Truth AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH: 2016 Election

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25 Aug 2016, 3:17 pm

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See this what you do, every time you attack the source even Youtube videos literally from Hillary Clinton's channel. It's pointless talking to you since you are foaming at the mouth belligerent. Role another doob dude, you need one. You don't post any "facts", I do not read whatever blog you post because you don't have the wherewithal to debate any of the issues on your own which I am guessing is what frustrates you folks to no end. I'm not playing the game of who's source is more respected; that is stupid, fallacious, and not worth my time.


No need for the personal attacks.

How am I belligerent? I'm just calling you out on your lack of evidence. I typically post links to news articles on respected news sites and rarely from blogs. The last one I posted because they link to real studies that show Fox viewers are the most misinformed on current events. So yes, I back up my claims with facts and evidence.

Sorry but if you want to be taken seriously you can't just keep posting baseless claims with zero evidence while shrugging off the mounds negative information about Trump.

The problem is he really believes what he says and therefore sees no need to back it up...



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25 Aug 2016, 3:27 pm

I thought she gave a rather effective speech today. And it's all true about Trump exploiting the racist right white wing of the party for political gain. He's a racist, and much of his support comes from white men who think that brown people are takin er jbs! (And committing genocide on the white race).

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But today, she emerges. However, she is emerging not to take responsibility for her unethical and criminal conduct, but instead to make one of the most brazen attempts at distraction in the history of politics.

She took responsibility yesterday.

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The news reports are that Hillary Clinton is going to try to accuse this campaign, and the millions of decent Americans who support this campaign, of being racists.

The campaign for sure, the supporters, quite possibly.

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It’s the oldest play in the Democratic playbook.

The Republican Party has been the party of segregationists since the Civil Rights Act.

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This is the year that the people who have been betrayed by Democratic policies, including millions of African-American and Hispanic-American citizens, reject the politicians who have failed them and vote for change.

No, those groups aren't going to vote for a racist.

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These are the consequences of Hillary Clinton’s policies. She has brought nothing but pain and heartache to our inner cities.
As Secretary of State?

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On top of that, she wants to raise taxes on African-American owned businesses to as much as nearly 50 percent. We should be helping these businesses to grow and expand – but Hillary Clinton is trying to shut them down.

That's lame. Hiding behind the term "business" to justify reducing taxes on the very wealthiest of this country.

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She opposes school choice.
Opposes undermining the public school system...

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She supports open borders that violate the civil rights of African-Americans by giving their jobs to people here unlawfully.

Nope, that a lie:
http://www.politifact.com/florida/state ... n-open-bo/

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She supports trade policies that have closed factories in African-American communities and put millions of African-Americans out of work.

That happened mostly in the 1970's. And by the way:

for the past half-century, the Republican party has believed in the importance of removing barriers to trade. Although this position has not been universally held, every major free-trade agreement in decades has been wholeheartedly supported by a majority of Republicans, starting with the North American Free Trade Agreement (Nafta), which was negotiated by the George HW Bush administration, and on to the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), which was featured in the 2012 GOP platform, was signed earlier this year and is awaiting congressional approval.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... epublicans

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She supports radical regulations that put Americans out of work and raise the price of their energy bills.

You mean she doesn't want to eliminate reasonable regulations that protect the health and safety of American workers? She doesn't want fossil fuel companies (the most prosperous commercial enterprises in the history of humanity) to spend a dime on worker's lives? The horror!



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25 Aug 2016, 3:33 pm

Good post AspE, one thing though, she didn't take responsibility for "criminal conduct" because she has never been found guilty of anything. Other than that, thanks.



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26 Aug 2016, 12:18 pm

Thanks. I'm not crazy about defending her, since I'm a Bernie guy, but even with her faults, she's hardly the boogeyman the right makes her out to be. And given Trump, she needs to be elected.

By the way, I love the Residents!



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26 Aug 2016, 12:57 pm

Wikileaks promising an October Surprise for Hillary, Assange previously said his leaks could put Hillary in prison so we'll be patient. Wikileaks most likely has the deleted emails which will be released when the timing is right and you know Hilldawg wants to stop it by any means nessasary. Isn't it odd that their was an attempted break in at the Ecuadorian embassy in London where some unknown individual scaled a wall and was able to somehow escape security while the police didn't respond for 2 hours despite 2 hours away? What might that person wanted to do? Isn't it funny that all these people in the Clinton orbit end up mysteriously dead?

Remember the DNC leaker Seth Rich was MURDERED too!



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26 Aug 2016, 1:17 pm

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/d ... ter-227434

Hey look a guy with links to the mafia and Putin gave money to the Trump campaign and visited the Trump tower for undisclosed reasons.

So again, where are Trump's taxes? This is a man being sued for fraud and yet he just expects people to trust him. What are his ties to Russia? Why did he hire a foreign agent again with ties to Russia to run his campaign? What is he hiding?



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26 Aug 2016, 3:23 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Wikileaks promising an October Surprise for Hillary, Assange previously said his leaks could put Hillary in prison so we'll be patient. Wikileaks most likely has the deleted emails which will be released when the timing is right and you know Hilldawg wants to stop it by any means nessasary. Isn't it odd that their was an attempted break in at the Ecuadorian embassy in London where some unknown individual scaled a wall and was able to somehow escape security while the police didn't respond for 2 hours despite 2 hours away? What might that person wanted to do? Isn't it funny that all these people in the Clinton orbit end up mysteriously dead?

Remember the DNC leaker Seth Rich was MURDERED too!

Careful, Jacoby, I'm worried about your health.



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29 Aug 2016, 6:46 pm

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Wikileaks promising an October Surprise for Hillary, Assange previously said his leaks could put Hillary in prison so we'll be patient. Wikileaks most likely has the deleted emails which will be released when the timing is right and you know Hilldawg wants to stop it by any means nessasary. Isn't it odd that their was an attempted break in at the Ecuadorian embassy in London where some unknown individual scaled a wall and was able to somehow escape security while the police didn't respond for 2 hours despite 2 hours away? What might that person wanted to do? Isn't it funny that all these people in the Clinton orbit end up mysteriously dead?

Remember the DNC leaker Seth Rich was MURDERED too!

Careful, Jacoby, I'm worried about your health.

Yeah, his mental health could lead him to shoot himself in the back of the head...
Twice. ;)

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30 Aug 2016, 3:45 pm

http://time.com/4472874/hillary-clinton ... d=tcoshare

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Government lawyers told U.S. District Court Judge Amit P. Mehta Tuesday that an undetermined number of the emails among the 30 were not included in the 55,000 pages previously provided by Clinton. The State Department’s lawyer said it would need until the end of September to review the emails and redact potentially classified information before they are released.
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Clinton previously had said she withheld and deleted only personal emails not related to her duties as secretary of state.


30 more Benghazi emails have been recovered with some not being included in the ones she turned over, she deleted things with software called BleachBit which is to make these emails unrecoverable. BleachBit is free software but was used by the Clinton's for some reason, the creator of BleachBit speculated that it was because you could anonymously use BleachBit without there being any money trail.

How can anybody defend her?



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30 Aug 2016, 4:15 pm

Trump +3 in LA Times poll

tied in Reuters/Ipsos poll which I showed was already being manipulated in it's samplings so if made more accurate Trump would lead that poll as well

basically going just like I said, many many more revelations to be made about Hillary to come as well plus the debates

Trump is just starting to spend on ad buys and other campaign infrastructure.

if Trump wins Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida then he will win the election guaranteed



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30 Aug 2016, 9:58 pm

Trump apparently will be going to Mexico City tomorrow to meet with President Enrique Pena Nieto before giving a big speech on immigration

should definitely be an interesting meeting!



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31 Aug 2016, 9:37 am

Jacoby wrote:
Trump +3 in LA Times poll

tied in Reuters/Ipsos poll which I showed was already being manipulated in it's samplings so if made more accurate Trump would lead that poll as well

basically going just like I said, many many more revelations to be made about Hillary to come as well plus the debates

Trump is just starting to spend on ad buys and other campaign infrastructure.

if Trump wins Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida then he will win the election guaranteed

He's got one campaign office in Florida. Clinton has 34. He's spending on more rallies to preach to the converted, and hats. It's like he doesn't even care about winning.



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31 Aug 2016, 10:24 am

AspE wrote:
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Trump +3 in LA Times poll

tied in Reuters/Ipsos poll which I showed was already being manipulated in it's samplings so if made more accurate Trump would lead that poll as well

basically going just like I said, many many more revelations to be made about Hillary to come as well plus the debates

Trump is just starting to spend on ad buys and other campaign infrastructure.

if Trump wins Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida then he will win the election guaranteed

He's got one campaign office in Florida. Clinton has 34. He's spending on more rallies to preach to the converted, and hats. It's like he doesn't even care about winning.


Seems to be doing a good job at it to me, under budget and ahead of schedule! :) You guys got admit I called these polls returning to the norm after a month or so, the media threw everything they possible could throw at Trump yet he still stands. The polls were always flawed, they changed methodology in the middle of the election but even with the stacked deck Trump has climbed even. The further Clinton revelations and the debates will seal the deal for Donald, Trump just has to try to be more inclusive which he is doing and just exceed expectations with people which thanks to the media aren't very high so it is very easy to walk away impressed with Trump if you actually listen to him talk rather than whatever soundbite on the news. 10,000+ people with constant protests and distractions at a rally is certainly less 'preaching to the choir' than the 10 person fundraiser Hillary has that raises millions at. Hillary does not have many rallies and she can barely fill in the seats half the time.

One interesting thing I saw in that Reuters poll is the 'refuse to answer' part seems to jump whenever Trump goes down, I suspect that there is a significant amount of desirability bias going on which makes sense given the recent history of polling the last few years. In the last UK election they predicted a Labor win and or a hung parliament but the Tories actually gained seats and won a majority outright, they also predicted that Remain would easily win in the Brexit election but the results were actually flipped with Leave winning, we all saw how volatile and bad the polls are in this country during the primary so I see no reason why things will be different now.

The historical and economic trends show that the GOP has the advantage this election and Hillary is totally unacceptable to a majority of voters so I am venturing to say that Trump's support is being understated. I also do not believe that these 3rd party candidates will really get as much as they are polling, nobody is going to meet the threshold to get in the debates and people will want to make their votes count so I wager than that there will probably be 5% or less voting for either Gary Johnson or Jill Stein. Most people seem to think Gary Johnson pulls votes from Trump but it seems he pulls from both maybe even slightly more Hillary since Trump is significantly stronger with independents than Hillary with many usually Democrat leaning independents(the Bernie supporters) being attracted to Gary Johnson/Jill Stein before Hillary. Gary Johnson/Bill Weld are probably the least libertarian Libertarian presidential candidates ever, it is essentially a northeastern liberal Republican ticket plus weed. 1980 all over again with John Anderson, even had 4th party break 1% with Clark/Koch as the Libertarian ticket so it seems very similar to what may happen this election.

Still another month or so until we get the promised October surprise! 8O



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31 Aug 2016, 11:53 am

Jacoby wrote:
AspE wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Trump +3 in LA Times poll

tied in Reuters/Ipsos poll which I showed was already being manipulated in it's samplings so if made more accurate Trump would lead that poll as well

basically going just like I said, many many more revelations to be made about Hillary to come as well plus the debates

Trump is just starting to spend on ad buys and other campaign infrastructure.

if Trump wins Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida then he will win the election guaranteed

He's got one campaign office in Florida. Clinton has 34. He's spending on more rallies to preach to the converted, and hats. It's like he doesn't even care about winning.

Again citing polls that you know little or nothing about...
Seems to be doing a good job at it to me, under budget and ahead of schedule! :) You guys got admit I called these polls returning to the norm after a month or so, the media threw everything they possible could throw at Trump yet he still stands. The polls were always flawed, they changed methodology in the middle of the election but even with the stacked deck Trump has climbed even. The further Clinton revelations and the debates will seal the deal for Donald, Trump just has to try to be more inclusive which he is doing and just exceed expectations with people which thanks to the media aren't very high so it is very easy to walk away impressed with Trump if you actually listen to him talk rather than whatever soundbite on the news. 10,000+ people with constant protests and distractions at a rally is certainly less 'preaching to the choir' than the 10 person fundraiser Hillary has that raises millions at. Hillary does not have many rallies and she can barely fill in the seats half the time.

One interesting thing I saw in that Reuters poll is the 'refuse to answer' part seems to jump whenever Trump goes down, I suspect that there is a significant amount of desirability bias going on which makes sense given the recent history of polling the last few years. In the last UK election they predicted a Labor win and or a hung parliament but the Tories actually gained seats and won a majority outright, they also predicted that Remain would easily win in the Brexit election but the results were actually flipped with Leave winning, we all saw how volatile and bad the polls are in this country during the primary so I see no reason why things will be different now.

The historical and economic trends show that the GOP has the advantage this election and Hillary is totally unacceptable to a majority of voters so I am venturing to say that Trump's support is being understated. I also do not believe that these 3rd party candidates will really get as much as they are polling, nobody is going to meet the threshold to get in the debates and people will want to make their votes count so I wager than that there will probably be 5% or less voting for either Gary Johnson or Jill Stein. Most people seem to think Gary Johnson pulls votes from Trump but it seems he pulls from both maybe even slightly more Hillary since Trump is significantly stronger with independents than Hillary with many usually Democrat leaning independents(the Bernie supporters) being attracted to Gary Johnson/Jill Stein before Hillary. Gary Johnson/Bill Weld are probably the least libertarian Libertarian presidential candidates ever, it is essentially a northeastern liberal Republican ticket plus weed. 1980 all over again with John Anderson, even had 4th party break 1% with Clark/Koch as the Libertarian ticket so it seems very similar to what may happen this election.

Still another month or so until we get the promised October surprise! 8O



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31 Aug 2016, 3:15 pm

I surely know more than you about these polls and politics in general

I think that is what bothers you guys so much, the fact that I'm on the money on these things and you don't like where it is going

Well too bad! Don't blame the messenger! Well maybe blame the BS media that is brainwashing you with lies, half truths, and misinformation.

Trump in Mexico! Should be a very interesting meeting! Has a rally here tonight in Phoenix, I could go but I'd have to walk and I don't feel like risking being attacked by any violent Brownshirt leftists