On disproving religion.

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That goes pretty much the same way between different ideologies, philosophies and politics, there are arguments like that between christians themselves, being different denominations. Just think of a protestant and a catholic arguing about the Virgin Mary or another of their differences.

I think it's rather simple to disprove religion and "God." Polytheism for one, and the vast amounts of denominations of faith for the other. The only evidence that there ever was a "God" is simply the word of man.

Put that man and his disciples into separate interrogation rooms and just watch how the story changes. Behold: Religion.

Splitting hairs, much? At least the atheists don't hold bloody crusades and witch hunts upon which to "convert" others with...

One thing a lot of people say to dispute the validity of religion is "What about the Crusades/Inquisition/etc?"

You're right, people did a lot of bad things in the name of religion.
Of course, The Crusades were essentially a land grab and far more politically motivated...and the Inquisition was used as much by those in power to take down potential dissidents and enemies as it was for it's spoken purpose...but hey, some bad things still happened in the name of religion.

But this isn't to say everything in the name of science is a bag of puppies and rainbows. Right now the Hardron Collider is nearly complete, and will likely be used this summer. The purpose is to generate conditions similair to those immediately after the Big Bang. It is possible that this will create a black hole.
Now, the chances it does that are slim - as are the chances it creates one large enough to wipe out the planet.
But nonetheless, they are willing to risk the -entire planet- in the name of some theoretical science that will have no practical application whatsoever. I think that's about equally morally bankrupt as those who burned people in the name of God.

In the end, science can't prove why it's all here. It never will.
Science tells us how things work - gravity works because larger masses attract smaller ones, and it follows a set of equations we can measure. But why does any of this happen?
Every answer science gives will always leave a signifigant "Yes, but why?" and nomatter how many issues of minutia mankind answers with his arrogance and instruments, we're left with the simple fact that it had to all come from something science can't begin to measure.

I agree with jfrmeister, and must address Jimmy to that fact. It's rather folly to excuse religions crimes by implying that if your an atheist you believe in science, and science has done horrible things as well. It's true they have their similarities, both strive for some great answer.

But sooner or later, people just need to look up at the sky. The stars and the universe, and simply realize we're insignificant specks amongst them. That we are human and in no way any sort of god, and that we'll ever find that illusive answer.

We're never going to leave this planet, this is all we have. We've been damning ourselves since we could think, all in search of that stupid "answer." We need to give it up already, we need to start thinking more about the future, and not that "answer."

if anybody lacks imagination and "thinking outside the box", it is christians. anybody who has spent a lot of time studying the bible on their own, without the input of christian "scholars", will tell you its pretty much full of poo and is based on the same primitive ideas that makes myth. people who think that just because life exists, that someone had to have created it, is not thinking too hard. anybody who thinks not only were we created by an omnipotent demiurge, but that he inspired men to write books about his activities on earth thousands of years ago, is a kook. truthfully, and i do mean truthfully, there is more proof that dyeus pater, perkwunos, odin, thor etc existed than there is that yahweh and jesus did. does that mean i dont believe in a creator? not necessarily, but i can tell you one thing with a lot of confidence, i wouldnt count on the bible as being a very accurate picture of what god is. "to see by faith is to blind the eye of reason" "faith means not wanting to know what is true"

as far as odin goes im just talking about literature, not religions based on him. there is more literary evidence from many, many different places that the proto-indo-european gods existed than jesus and yahweh, adam and eve. thats what im saying. damn here i am in an interesting forum and its bedtime. ill continue tomorrow. if enough books were written about somebody and advertised as nonfiction, naturally people would swear they were real. talk to you later

i agree with you on the global warming. isnt mars getting warmer too? but honestly, many many people dont even read ANY of the bible before they decide they are christian. those are the people i ridicule. btw i dont believe in odin. ok bedtime. see ya