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17 Apr 2020, 8:47 pm

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Death statistics in china jump by around 30% in one day.

Hmmmm. :mrgreen:


The normal daily mortality rate in the US is between 7,400-7,800 per day. China has over 3 times the population of the US, so a ballpark estimate of the daily mortality rate there should be around 23,000 per day. That's a lot to keep track of under normal circumstances.


How so? They also have 3x as many people to do the keeping track. Plus their people excel at math.. sooo :nerdy:


Based all the news reports and posts here, they're not doing a very good job, so that was another dumb question. I'm going to surmise you are asking dumb questions to be annoying. Think I'll ignore you for a while. See how hard you try to get me to reply to you.


China is not having difficulty keeping track. :roll: They are lying. :!:

And you claim to be smarter than me. :lol:


I think I heard, this morning, that the ccp admits it was less than honest with the figures.

But don't expect these more honest figures to be the true figure either.
Sources suspect that it is more like 40,000 + deaths.



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17 Apr 2020, 8:48 pm

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And my brothers don't care about disinfecting outside of grocery store items or being careful about washing in between touching the boxes, etc. I even gave them sanitizers which they never use, and disinfectant spray ons which they returned



Your brothers are selfish idiots.


How so? At least they returned the useful gift they had no intention of using.


Well it did come in handy here as I ran out of my other cans quickly.
The city they live in, everyone is super casual about this. (Oakville the downtown Oakville side) I was shocked. I think I ranted about it here before. I rant about everything on this thread.



Really, I guess what I'm suggesting is that a more selfish act would have been to accept them to keep them to avoid clashing over opinions, meanwhile knowing they will not make use of them. Wasting is selfish, keeping something someone else will use when you know you won't is selfish, so that's what I'm focused on.



Um to be honest what you said is true. Once I noticed it was stuffed away (earlier when this stuff was beginning to take hold) I asked if they planned to use it. They said nah just take it :roll:


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17 Apr 2020, 8:54 pm

blooiejagwa wrote:
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And my brothers don't care about disinfecting outside of grocery store items or being careful about washing in between touching the boxes, etc. I even gave them sanitizers which they never use, and disinfectant spray ons which they returned



Your brothers are selfish idiots.


How so? At least they returned the useful gift they had no intention of using.


Well it did come in handy here as I ran out of my other cans quickly.
The city they live in, everyone is super casual about this. (Oakville the downtown Oakville side) I was shocked. I think I ranted about it here before. I rant about everything on this thread.



Really, I guess what I'm suggesting is that a more selfish act would have been to accept them to keep them to avoid clashing over opinions, meanwhile knowing they will not make use of them. Wasting is selfish, keeping something someone else will use when you know you won't is selfish, so that's what I'm focused on.



Um to be honest what you said is true. Once I noticed it was stuffed away (earlier when this stuff was beginning to take hold) I asked if they planned to use it. They said nah just take it :roll:


Sounds like you came out twice as far ahead as expected. You got the benefits of giving a gift without the cost of no longer having the sanitizer. :mrgreen:


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17 Apr 2020, 8:56 pm

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Death statistics in china jump by around 30% in one day.

Hmmmm. :mrgreen:

Such spikes occured in statistics for France and New York before.
Hot data is never very reliable, it gets retrospectively corrected all the time.


So, you are saying you believe the chinese figures? :scratch:
Oh lordy. 8O

Do I have a bridge for you! :mrgreen:



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17 Apr 2020, 9:10 pm

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china's economic damage, as a result of the CV, is in sympathy with an accident, assuming the biological lab theory, rather than a planned assault on the economics of the rest of the world.

Also, it has been suggested the deliberate coverup, at the initial stage of the crisis, was motivated, at least in part, by the desire to hoard PPE from across the globe.



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18 Apr 2020, 1:04 am

Michigan's Emergency Stay-at-Home Order Is a Hot Mess. Now 4 Sheriffs Say They Won't Be Enforcing Parts of It.
"We question some restrictions that she has imposed as overstepping her executive authority."

Four sheriffs in Michigan announced Wednesday that they will not enforce parts of the restrictive COVID-19 stay-at-home order recently issued by Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D), after the officers concluded that Whitmer may be pushing the bounds of her position.

"We write today to inform the public for our respective counties of our opposition to some of Governor Whitmer's executive orders," the four sheriffs wrote in a letter posted to Twitter. "While we understand her desire to protect the public, we question some restrictions that she has imposed as overstepping her executive authority."


https://reason.com/2020/04/15/michigans ... rts-of-it/


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18 Apr 2020, 1:49 am

Fining people who have no income is not going to work. Putting more people in jail when they are trying to lessen prison populations so they don't become virus hothouses is not going to work. Eventually they are going to have to roll in the militia to enforce stay-at-home with bullets, and that will not go towards saving lives.



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18 Apr 2020, 1:58 am

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The COVID-19 virus can travel as far as 13 feet from patients, a new study found, which would make the U.S. government order for people to stay six feet away from each other essentially obsolete.

According to AFP, a team of researchers at the Academy of Military Medical Sciences in Beijing examined surface and air samples at a hospital in Wuhan, China, the city where the virus first cropped up in November.

What they found was the virus could travel 13 feet from an infected patient. The samples were taken in a general ward housing patients with the virus and an intensive care unit..


I have a problem that the only research about distance for infection from a vector is only emanating from Wuhan?

A more pressing concern is the lifespan of a viable virus cell on surfaces such as packaging, food or the ground. The infection capacity of COVID-19 cells in terms of airborne travel and survival on surfaces is highly suspcious and points to an embarrassed and incompetent PC4 lab in Wuhan that has been tinkering with the DNA of common coronoaviruses.



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18 Apr 2020, 2:18 am

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18 Apr 2020, 2:35 am

NEWS FLASH!

Poland:
Polish orangutangs aren't as smart as they think. :mrgreen:



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▶️An orangutan at a Polish zoo showed the world how not to wear a face mask, Friday, April 17.
Staff at Gdansk Zoo, who wear face masks at work to help prevent the spread of the new coronavirus, recently gave 46-year-old Raja a mask to play with.
But instead of covering her face, the orangutan decided to place the mask over her shoulders and wear it on her torso.
Raja, who was born at a zoo in Rostock, Germany, before being moved to Gdansk, shares her cage with a male orangutan named Albert.



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18 Apr 2020, 2:40 am

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And my brothers don't care about disinfecting outside of grocery store items or being careful about washing in between touching the boxes, etc. I even gave them sanitizers which they never use, and disinfectant spray ons which they returned



Your brothers are selfish idiots.


How so? At least they returned the useful gift they had no intention of using.


Erm,
Isn't it obvious, or are you just being difficult?

If they catch the CV, their sister could get it too.
Not rocket surgery. :wink:



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18 Apr 2020, 2:43 am

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April 16 NYT article links obesity with hospitalizations of younger patients, even if they have no other health problems.


That's right. Obesity is such a serious problem when it comes to a SARS virus, that it alone can put even younger people at great risk. Obese people are being told to be extra careful. Even without covid19 obese people have breathing problems, namely sleep apnea, and already require ventilation from CPAP machines.


I have also read that obesity is a major problem for those getting the CV.


Obese people in serious to critical condition from covid19 who were administered hydroxychloroquine recovered rapidly.

Apparently, not if they take Metformin. 8O



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18 Apr 2020, 2:44 am

blooiejagwa wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
blooiejagwa wrote:

And my brothers don't care about disinfecting outside of grocery store items or being careful about washing in between touching the boxes, etc. I even gave them sanitizers which they never use, and disinfectant spray ons which they returned



Your brothers are selfish idiots.


How so? At least they returned the useful gift they had no intention of using.


It's mainly the middle one. The other two don't leave the house. The middle one I yelled at.


I sanitise all groceries that come into the house.



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18 Apr 2020, 5:05 am

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Oh yeah, that builds my confidence. If covid19 was a bio-weapon its main objective must have been to see how badly messed up dealing with it could be.



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18 Apr 2020, 5:47 am

NY state nursing homes more like funeral homes, with nearly 2,500 patient fatalities

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A single Brooklyn nursing home reported a staggering 55 residents dead from coronavirus during the ongoing pandemic, with more than 40 deaths revealed Friday in another four facilities located in Queens, the Bronx and Staten Island.

The grim revelations indicated that one in every five of New York state’s COVID-19 fatalities died inside a nursing home, with a staggering 19 of the facilities statewide reporting 20 or more deaths in the ongoing pandemic. The grand total of statewide nursing home deaths was 2,477 through this past Tuesday, officials said.

“These have been surreal times, and we are suffering as is everybody else,” said Dr. Roy Goldberg, medical director at the Kings Harbor Multicare Center in the Bronx. “Every death is heartbreaking.”

The 720-bed home reported 45 fatalities, giving credence to recent reports from nursing home workers of death tolls well above what anyone expected.

Employees at a Brooklyn nursing home held a demonstration earlier in the week, alleging the bodies of 10 deceased patients were stored in a room with the windows open and the air conditioner on.

And the Friday figures could actually undercount the number of fatalities. One state nursing home official said 21 of their patients had died — while the state reported just 10 fatalities inside the Montgomery Nursing and Rehabilitation Center, about 50 miles north of the city.

“It’s been a very trying time for the staff, to lose residents they care for day in and day out,” said center Vice President Vincent Maniscalco. “When somebody passes away, they celebrate a resident’s life.”

Gov. Cuomo signed off Friday on an executive order requiring nursing homes to report coronavirus deaths and positive tests to family members within 24 hours. The homes were previously asked to share the grim news with relatives, but notification is now mandated.


Meat shortage 2020: Coronavirus has led Smithfield, other plants to close, farmers to dump milk
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We have too much milk, may not have enough meat and could eventually run short on soup.

Let’s just say America's food supply chain is getting out of whack due to the coronavirus pandemic.

The sudden shift from restaurant dining to at-home eating, coupled with panic buying at grocery stores, is causing major disruption in the manufacturing, distribution and sales of food products. Dairy farmers are dumping excess raw milk, while meat companies are scrambling to meet demand.

Though experts say the food supply chain has performed admirably so far – most factories are still operating and many are doing so at full blast – industry watchers are getting concerned about supplies of beef, poultry and pork as the COVID-19 crisis continues.

After Smithfield Foods on Sunday announced the indefinite closure of its pork processing plant in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, due to an outbreak among its employees, CEO Kenneth Sullivan issued a warning about the state of the nation’s meat supply chain.

The closure of this facility, combined with a growing list of other protein plants that have shuttered across our industry, is pushing our country perilously close to the edge in terms of our meat supply,” he said in a statement. “It is impossible to keep our grocery stores stocked if our plants are not running.”

Some food companies – such as Conagra Brands, which makes Duncan Hines desserts, Slim Jim jerky and Hunt's ketchup – are temporarily reducing varieties to focus on items that are in high demand.

Discounts are also disappearing as retailers and manufacturers try to shore up supplies.

In the wake of panic buying, supplies of products like soup and pasta “are still catching up,” said Mike Duffy, CEO of C&S Wholesale Grocers, a wholesale grocery supply company with more than 15,000 employees. He estimated that retailers have only about half of the pasta and soups they would typically carry.


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The COVID-19 pandemic has put the world to the test. Never before have we been so aware of the many ways we come into contact with innumerable others. We have been forced to reassess and retrain common habits, from the handshake to the simple act of opening a door.

This is because the virus spreads via physical proximity: direct contact between people (handshakes, kisses and hugs), coughs, or even touching objects with contaminated droplets. The sum of all of these contacts forms a large and dynamic network – just like Facebook maps out our social interactions online. Disconnecting or weakening this extensive network is the key purpose of social distancing measures, currently experienced across the world.

How we come out of lockdown is the next challenge. It is important to avoid a resurgence of the virus while minimising the societal and economic damage. Proposals range from creating herd immunity to keeping the lockdown intact until the development of a treatment or vaccination.

We are part of a group of mathematicians and economists specialising in modelling random and uncertain situations. We propose an exit strategy that mitigates the health risks of the former, and the social and economic risks of the latter. This is in line with other ideas such as keeping limitations only for high-risk groups.

Our recently published proposal is based on two key elements. First, identifying green zones, meaning areas where the sanitary system is operational, the growth rate of infections is low and the future risks appear manageable. And second, progressively joining these green zones together once it is safe to do so.



https://theconversation.com/green-zones ... own-136002