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16 Mar 2011, 1:20 am

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That'd make about as much sense as dropping napalm bombs on the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig - maybe even less, as the napalm might have burned off some of the spilled oil...


I'm in agreement with all of your statements, but actually, making an explosion next to an oil well fire is a proven way to put it out, as the explosion instantly cuts off oxygen to the fire. But dropping bombs on a nuclear plant that is at risk? That is just plain crazy


Maybe that's what they're planning. I'm just reiterating what I'm hearing. Also, It'd be nice if things actually did get better instead of continually getting worse while the governments are covering it up.


Big difference in situation. Oil well fire and nuclear accident... Dropping bombs on a nuclear reactor would just lead to extreme environmental contamination. I know you're just reiterating though so don't take it that I'm attacking you :D


I don't know what I would do if that situation was brought into my midst. 40 years of spent fuel rods being blown up into smoke .. certainly pouring water from planes onto the reactors which they're doing now won't help.. I guess we'll see how things develop, hopefully for the better. I've seen a photo of the fire in reactor number 4 being put out, hopefully the whole thing will be it's only been 5 days.



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16 Mar 2011, 3:53 am

Where on earth are you getting your information from? 8O

I'm getting mine from my husband who is a nuclear scientist. He says the biggest threat at the moment is the hysteria. Take that video someone posted earlier. My husband was actually laughing watching it because the guy was so wrong. It was more comedy than science. Not only that but the bloke was lying. If he had taken a dose of iodine of the recommended level for radiation exposure he would not be sat there chatting like he was. He'd have his head down the bog, puking his guts up. Plus, contrary to what he suggests, you should never give iodine to children unless under strict medical supervision. Oh and iodine is not disappearing off the shelves in Europe. I can vouch for that.

My husband says it isn't a good situation but the only real threat to human life is to those inside the exclusion zone. But even then, based on the last radiation level figures given out, you could be there for nearly 2 weeks before receiving a fatal dose.



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16 Mar 2011, 4:06 am

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Wow!
I didn't know that there are so many nuclear sites in the U.S.A. too 8O



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16 Mar 2011, 9:48 am

I wouldn't take potassium iodine unless it was confirmed that Japan's fallout poised a significant threat and radiation levels did sky rocket. I'm hoping it gets better for the Japanese , my friend in outside Tokyo said things are getting somewhat normal , her child went to school for half a day today

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Where on earth are you getting your information from? 8O

I'm getting mine from my husband who is a nuclear scientist. He says the biggest threat at the moment is the hysteria. Take that video someone posted earlier. My husband was actually laughing watching it because the guy was so wrong. It was more comedy than science. Not only that but the bloke was lying. If he had taken a dose of iodine of the recommended level for radiation exposure he would not be sat there chatting like he was. He'd have his head down the bog, puking his guts up. Plus, contrary to what he suggests, you should never give iodine to children unless under strict medical supervision. Oh and iodine is not disappearing off the shelves in Europe. I can vouch for that.

My husband says it isn't a good situation but the only real threat to human life is to those inside the exclusion zone. But even then, based on the last radiation level figures given out, you could be there for nearly 2 weeks before receiving a fatal dose.


I was just reading random articles , and my friend was acting like it'll be worse then it appears to be. Your husbands probably right then I hope.



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16 Mar 2011, 12:40 pm

It's not worse than Chernobyl. The worst-case scenario is not worse than Chernobyl.

No, the reactors cannot explode.

No, the radiation will not reach areas outside Japan.

It is a serious problem, but it is not a doomsday scenario and can never be one.

If you are in the US, you do not need to be worried for your family; we are simply too far away. We are not too far away to help, though; there are quite a few reputable relief organizations already in Japan and working on keeping people warm, fed, and safe.

CNN made available a quick rundown of the people currently helping, who would appreciate your donations:
Tsunami Aid and Relief: How You Can Help


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16 Mar 2011, 2:26 pm

I have been following the Japan situation since 4am the day of the earthquake/tsunami, and have learned a lot of details about nuclear power and radiation.

Here there was a conference at MIT with panelists including someone conferencing in from Geneva. Two of my former colleagues attended and posted their summaries and thoughts for the rest of us on our mailing list. The main disappointment they seemed to have is that nobody on the panel seemed to have inside news or any more updated information than any of the rest of us; they just explained the science and so forth. I could post sections of the synopsis if you wish.



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16 Mar 2011, 2:58 pm

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I have been following the Japan situation since 4am the day of the earthquake/tsunami, and have learned a lot of details about nuclear power and radiation.

Here there was a conference at MIT with panelists including someone conferencing in from Geneva. Two of my former colleagues attended and posted their summaries and thoughts for the rest of us on our mailing list. The main disappointment they seemed to have is that nobody on the panel seemed to have inside news or any more updated information than any of the rest of us; they just explained the science and so forth. I could post sections of the synopsis if you wish.


The only source of immediate inside news are the authorities in Japan. If they are not talking and if it is not obvious that the containment at Dai-Ichi Fukushima is breached you are not likely to hear anything more.

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16 Mar 2011, 11:44 pm

The news has been surprisingly calm today regarding the nuclear situation over in Japan but I will still lose sleep over it. You never know what insanity is likely to happen at those plants tomorrow.



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17 Mar 2011, 12:07 am

Japanese military helicopters are dowsing reactors three and four with water.
It's been several days since the earthquake...what is going to be the grand finale for that plant?



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17 Mar 2011, 12:58 am

Last news source I checked said the US would use an unmanned aircraft to photograph the plant from above and see what's really going on. I suppose using robotic solutions is obvious if the radiation levels get too high for humans to go in or over...



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17 Mar 2011, 2:33 am

If you want accurate information this is the site to go to:

http://www.iaea.org/

These people are top of the pecking order when it comes to international nuclear issues.



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17 Mar 2011, 5:26 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Japanese military helicopters are dowsing reactors three and four with water.
It's been several days since the earthquake...what is going to be the grand finale for that plant?


Being buried in concrete. Just like Chernobyl. It will take months.

The radiation will be sufficiently high that any work on the reactors will become kamikaze missions, which is just perfect for the Japanese.

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17 Mar 2011, 7:20 am

I just watched the Tepco conference, a little while ago... they said absolutely nothing that wasn't already obvious. Nothing that would reassure that they have any solution. They talked about replacing batteries. That was about the best information they provided, and they didn't even answer at least one question that was asked. I think it likely should be questioned if they even could replace any batteries.

I guess it seems that getting them all in concrete, like with Chernobyl, is the only solution. :| Until then, for now, praying for a kamikaze is something that just maybe may be meaningful.... even if I personally don't really believe in prayers... and I don't mainly mean the kamikaze that the mentally unsound guy above has in mind... rather a 'divine wind' that will bring the fallout out to sea, until the concrete solution can be realized.

Any Japanese that feel like eventually even leaving the country should know that it's rather easy to immigrate to Sweden, for example... just saying. :/ Maybe spread the word of that, if it gets even worse...?



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17 Mar 2011, 7:35 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Japanese military helicopters are dowsing reactors three and four with water.
It's been several days since the earthquake...what is going to be the grand finale for that plant?

Dropping 4,000 gallons of water at a time from a helicopter won't do crap. It' hot enough now in those reactor cores to melt titanium, so most of that water will flash into steam before it touches anything. The impurities in salt water might also collect radiation before shooting back out into the air due to the blast of steam.


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17 Mar 2011, 11:19 am

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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Japanese military helicopters are dowsing reactors three and four with water.
It's been several days since the earthquake...what is going to be the grand finale for that plant?

Dropping 4,000 gallons of water at a time from a helicopter won't do crap. It' hot enough now in those reactor cores to melt titanium, so most of that water will flash into steam before it touches anything. The impurities in salt water might also collect radiation before shooting back out into the air due to the blast of steam.


the people running Fukushima Dai-Ichi have to be seen doing -something- even if it is futile.

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17 Mar 2011, 11:40 am

The US government is evacuating 600 government personal and family in Tokyo, Yokohama and Nagoya, They will also evacuate Department of Defense personal and family at US bases in the affected areas. The same goes for Private citizens as well.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/ ... a-12777022