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15 Aug 2017, 9:23 am

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Stigmatization is what it's all about. Nazi this nazi that. nazi nazi nazi, phobe phobe phobe. Whilst they riot riot riot.


What calling everybody Nazi or racist does is cause moral confusion, if everybody is a Nazi nobody is. The true evil of Nazism get muddled and the bad of the people bieng compared to them are defended because it is seen as another unfair charge.

The people that want to honor dead relatives are not equvilent to the actual Nazi's demonstrating in Charlottesville. I just called the people carrying Nazi flags Nazis, but I have to admit reluctance to do it for fear bieng seen as another hysteric.

And yet a portion of the population believe jews deserved what they got and many don't mind keeping Nazi paraphanelia or getting a swastika or 1488 tattoo...come to think of it the confederate protesters in Charlottesville had no problems marching arm in arm with neo-Nazis. I guess that puts to rest any lingering doubts about the link between confederacy the south and racism


I'm guessing a lot of this is highly sensationalized and purported exist to the degree it's purported to.

I'm also gussting there's a number of Aussies who have swastika and 1488 et al tattoos.

Saw a number of men when I was in a San Diego hotel swimming pool about 8 years ago with both types of tattoos. I discreetly asked the concierge who they might be and whether it was safe for my wife and daughter. I was told these men belonged to the naval base and that I should be fine as they mainly dislike Mexicans. Needless to say we didn't return to the pool.


I live next to a large Navy base and I have never seen any sailors with nazi tattoos hanging out at the beach. Nor in my lifetime of living in Las Vgeas and having seen hundreds of people in beach attire at hotel swimming pools, have I seen anyone sporting nazi tattoos. Nor have I known of local navy base or air force base (there's a huge air force base in vegas) personnel to hang out at hotel swimming pools. I asked my dad about this and he said, "that's a huge load of nonsense son".

But I'm still gussting there's a number of Aussies who have swastika tattoos.


Yeah, well time to wake up. The military is often the breeding ground for many of the racist organizations.


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15 Aug 2017, 9:26 am

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Stigmatization is what it's all about. Nazi this nazi that. nazi nazi nazi, phobe phobe phobe. Whilst they riot riot riot.


What calling everybody Nazi or racist does is cause moral confusion, if everybody is a Nazi nobody is. The true evil of Nazism get muddled and the bad of the people bieng compared to them are defended because it is seen as another unfair charge.

The people that want to honor dead relatives are not equvilent to the actual Nazi's demonstrating in Charlottesville. I just called the people carrying Nazi flags Nazis, but I have to admit reluctance to do it for fear bieng seen as another hysteric.

And yet a portion of the population believe jews deserved what they got and many don't mind keeping Nazi paraphanelia or getting a swastika or 1488 tattoo...come to think of it the confederate protesters in Charlottesville had no problems marching arm in arm with neo-Nazis. I guess that puts to rest any lingering doubts about the link between confederacy the south and racism


I'm guessing a lot of this is highly sensationalized and doesn't exist to the degree it's purported to.

I'm also gussting there's a number of Aussies who have swastika and 1488 et al tattoos.


So basically you don't believe nazi's and white supremacists are having demonstrations...and I figure that one who drove that car into the protestors wasn't really trying to hit anyone, it was just media sensationalization. You do realize those sort of neo-nazis and white supremacists think people like you are garbage too...that's right people with autism are also 'inferiors' to them maybe think about that before jumping to defend them or downplaying the issue.


What I don't believe is that most republicans are nazis. They don't make up the majority of white conservatives, the way the leftist propaganda makes out.

The one...one...one...single...sigular...only...one and only one person who drove a car into people...acted alone...alone...alone. Amd the left is exploiting the hell out of it. That's all they really care about it, is the political gains they can milk out of it while shedding crocodile tears as usual.


And yet, somehow, one Muslim doing the same thing is a terrorist?

Are you incapable of objectively analyzing both sides of this argument, because if this you are not, then I will stop commenting to you?


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15 Aug 2017, 9:29 am

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If somebody carries a Nazi flag, it's almost guaranteed that the person, at least, sympathizes with the Nazi ideology.


If I have a Teletubby sticker on my car, it means that I more than just sympathize with them.

If someone is carrying a Nazi flag, there is no ambiguity in that statement.

You don't get to do stupid s**t like that and claim ignorance.


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15 Aug 2017, 9:37 am

.. I started a thread on this over in Politics and Religion. I believe I did not know of this one then??


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15 Aug 2017, 10:14 am

rick sanchez wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Stigmatization is what it's all about. Nazi this nazi that. nazi nazi nazi, phobe phobe phobe. Whilst they riot riot riot.


What calling everybody Nazi or racist does is cause moral confusion, if everybody is a Nazi nobody is. The true evil of Nazism get muddled and the bad of the people bieng compared to them are defended because it is seen as another unfair charge.

The people that want to honor dead relatives are not equvilent to the actual Nazi's demonstrating in Charlottesville. I just called the people carrying Nazi flags Nazis, but I have to admit reluctance to do it for fear bieng seen as another hysteric.

And yet a portion of the population believe jews deserved what they got and many don't mind keeping Nazi paraphanelia or getting a swastika or 1488 tattoo...come to think of it the confederate protesters in Charlottesville had no problems marching arm in arm with neo-Nazis. I guess that puts to rest any lingering doubts about the link between confederacy the south and racism


I'm guessing a lot of this is highly sensationalized and purported exist to the degree it's purported to.

I'm also gussting there's a number of Aussies who have swastika and 1488 et al tattoos.

Saw a number of men when I was in a San Diego hotel swimming pool about 8 years ago with both types of tattoos. I discreetly asked the concierge who they might be and whether it was safe for my wife and daughter. I was told these men belonged to the naval base and that I should be fine as they mainly dislike Mexicans. Needless to say we didn't return to the pool.


I live next to a large Navy base and I have never seen any sailors with nazi tattoos hanging out at the beach. Nor in my lifetime of living in Las Vgeas and having seen hundreds of people in beach attire at hotel swimming pools, have I seen anyone sporting nazi tattoos. Nor have I known of local navy base or air force base (there's a huge air force base in vegas) personnel to hang out at hotel swimming pools. I asked my dad about this and he said, "that's a huge load of nonsense son".

But I'm still gussting there's a number of Aussies who have swastika tattoos.


Yeah, well time to wake up. The military is often the breeding ground for many of the racist organizations.


Wake up and see something neither I nor my dad has ever seen dispite my lifetime and his 25 years of living near a large navy base and huge air force base?

And are you saying United States military regulations allow millitary personnel wear nazi tattoos while telling me to wake up? :lol:



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15 Aug 2017, 10:35 am

IMO the old confederate monuments should be in museums,with the story of what they stood for.Sweeping this stuff under the rug just causes it to pop back up later on.Let people learn from the mistakes we made so we don't backslide and repeat it.
As for our military sporting swasitika tattoos,I've never seen it.A large group of the family served and I lived next to Jacksonville,AR USAFB, I frequently went on base.I live in the South and I've never seen one tattooed on anybody in RL.I'm aware some former soldiers may have become survivalists sorts,most soldiers aren't racist,at least not the ones that have seen active combat.Its kind of hard to hate black folks or anyone of color when they save your ass and have your back during combat.


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15 Aug 2017, 10:39 am

Most military wouldn't even think of wearing Nazi-type symbols. It's only the nuts who are doing this.



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15 Aug 2017, 10:45 am

rick sanchez wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Stigmatization is what it's all about. Nazi this nazi that. nazi nazi nazi, phobe phobe phobe. Whilst they riot riot riot.


What calling everybody Nazi or racist does is cause moral confusion, if everybody is a Nazi nobody is. The true evil of Nazism get muddled and the bad of the people bieng compared to them are defended because it is seen as another unfair charge.

The people that want to honor dead relatives are not equvilent to the actual Nazi's demonstrating in Charlottesville. I just called the people carrying Nazi flags Nazis, but I have to admit reluctance to do it for fear bieng seen as another hysteric.

And yet a portion of the population believe jews deserved what they got and many don't mind keeping Nazi paraphanelia or getting a swastika or 1488 tattoo...come to think of it the confederate protesters in Charlottesville had no problems marching arm in arm with neo-Nazis. I guess that puts to rest any lingering doubts about the link between confederacy the south and racism


I'm guessing a lot of this is highly sensationalized and purported exist to the degree it's purported to.

I'm also gussting there's a number of Aussies who have swastika and 1488 et al tattoos.

Saw a number of men when I was in a San Diego hotel swimming pool about 8 years ago with both types of tattoos. I discreetly asked the concierge who they might be and whether it was safe for my wife and daughter. I was told these men belonged to the naval base and that I should be fine as they mainly dislike Mexicans. Needless to say we didn't return to the pool.


I live next to a large Navy base and I have never seen any sailors with nazi tattoos hanging out at the beach. Nor in my lifetime of living in Las Vgeas and having seen hundreds of people in beach attire at hotel swimming pools, have I seen anyone sporting nazi tattoos. Nor have I known of local navy base or air force base (there's a huge air force base in vegas) personnel to hang out at hotel swimming pools. I asked my dad about this and he said, "that's a huge load of nonsense son".

But I'm still gussting there's a number of Aussies who have swastika tattoos.


Yeah, well time to wake up. The military is often the breeding ground for many of the racist organizations.


In the military, racist tattoos are illegal.


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15 Aug 2017, 10:49 am

XFilesGeek wrote:
rick sanchez wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Stigmatization is what it's all about. Nazi this nazi that. nazi nazi nazi, phobe phobe phobe. Whilst they riot riot riot.


What calling everybody Nazi or racist does is cause moral confusion, if everybody is a Nazi nobody is. The true evil of Nazism get muddled and the bad of the people bieng compared to them are defended because it is seen as another unfair charge.

The people that want to honor dead relatives are not equvilent to the actual Nazi's demonstrating in Charlottesville. I just called the people carrying Nazi flags Nazis, but I have to admit reluctance to do it for fear bieng seen as another hysteric.

And yet a portion of the population believe jews deserved what they got and many don't mind keeping Nazi paraphanelia or getting a swastika or 1488 tattoo...come to think of it the confederate protesters in Charlottesville had no problems marching arm in arm with neo-Nazis. I guess that puts to rest any lingering doubts about the link between confederacy the south and racism


I'm guessing a lot of this is highly sensationalized and purported exist to the degree it's purported to.

I'm also gussting there's a number of Aussies who have swastika and 1488 et al tattoos.

Saw a number of men when I was in a San Diego hotel swimming pool about 8 years ago with both types of tattoos. I discreetly asked the concierge who they might be and whether it was safe for my wife and daughter. I was told these men belonged to the naval base and that I should be fine as they mainly dislike Mexicans. Needless to say we didn't return to the pool.


I live next to a large Navy base and I have never seen any sailors with nazi tattoos hanging out at the beach. Nor in my lifetime of living in Las Vgeas and having seen hundreds of people in beach attire at hotel swimming pools, have I seen anyone sporting nazi tattoos. Nor have I known of local navy base or air force base (there's a huge air force base in vegas) personnel to hang out at hotel swimming pools. I asked my dad about this and he said, "that's a huge load of nonsense son".

But I'm still gussting there's a number of Aussies who have swastika tattoos.


Yeah, well time to wake up. The military is often the breeding ground for many of the racist organizations.


In the military, racist tattoos are illegal.


Apparently not in San Diego.



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15 Aug 2017, 10:50 am

As they should be....



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15 Aug 2017, 12:13 pm

EzraS wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
rick sanchez wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Stigmatization is what it's all about. Nazi this nazi that. nazi nazi nazi, phobe phobe phobe. Whilst they riot riot riot.


What calling everybody Nazi or racist does is cause moral confusion, if everybody is a Nazi nobody is. The true evil of Nazism get muddled and the bad of the people bieng compared to them are defended because it is seen as another unfair charge.

The people that want to honor dead relatives are not equvilent to the actual Nazi's demonstrating in Charlottesville. I just called the people carrying Nazi flags Nazis, but I have to admit reluctance to do it for fear bieng seen as another hysteric.

And yet a portion of the population believe jews deserved what they got and many don't mind keeping Nazi paraphanelia or getting a swastika or 1488 tattoo...come to think of it the confederate protesters in Charlottesville had no problems marching arm in arm with neo-Nazis. I guess that puts to rest any lingering doubts about the link between confederacy the south and racism


I'm guessing a lot of this is highly sensationalized and purported exist to the degree it's purported to.

I'm also gussting there's a number of Aussies who have swastika and 1488 et al tattoos.

Saw a number of men when I was in a San Diego hotel swimming pool about 8 years ago with both types of tattoos. I discreetly asked the concierge who they might be and whether it was safe for my wife and daughter. I was told these men belonged to the naval base and that I should be fine as they mainly dislike Mexicans. Needless to say we didn't return to the pool.


I live next to a large Navy base and I have never seen any sailors with nazi tattoos hanging out at the beach. Nor in my lifetime of living in Las Vgeas and having seen hundreds of people in beach attire at hotel swimming pools, have I seen anyone sporting nazi tattoos. Nor have I known of local navy base or air force base (there's a huge air force base in vegas) personnel to hang out at hotel swimming pools. I asked my dad about this and he said, "that's a huge load of nonsense son".

But I'm still gussting there's a number of Aussies who have swastika tattoos.


Yeah, well time to wake up. The military is often the breeding ground for many of the racist organizations.


In the military, racist tattoos are illegal.


Apparently not in San Diego.


They're illegal everywhere.

A few idiots not following the regs doesn't mean the regs don't exist.


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15 Aug 2017, 12:14 pm

Just because a lot of the left is about hysterical and smearing accusations does not mean some of the accusations are not true. If you are participating in a torchlight parade, carrying Nazi flags, and yelled how you do not want to be replaced by Jews you are probably a Nazi, not a "neo" one either. "Neo" is just another deflecting euphemism.

If you participated in the demonstrations disowning them now means nothing. You may not agree with their tactics or goals but by participation in a demonstration called "Unite The Right" you agreed to tolerate or enable the "bad ones".

If I was more healthy despite my autistic dislike of crowds I would in normal circumstances seriously consider participating in an anti-Trump event. But as much as I despise Trump you are not going to see me at a resistance event. I choose not to associate myself with people that don't give a s**t about core American values or my core beliefs. The "resistance" has been turned into seeing evil in everything people who disagree with do and want to bully and shut down anything that strays from their orthodoxy one iota.

We can debate about who is more at fault in general or in particular instances. I am sure one side is more at fault. I choose not spend too much time thinking about it. Both the alt right and the regressive left are bad enough that I choose to have nothing to do with either of them.


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15 Aug 2017, 12:20 pm

XFilesGeek wrote:
EzraS wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
rick sanchez wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Stigmatization is what it's all about. Nazi this nazi that. nazi nazi nazi, phobe phobe phobe. Whilst they riot riot riot.


What calling everybody Nazi or racist does is cause moral confusion, if everybody is a Nazi nobody is. The true evil of Nazism get muddled and the bad of the people bieng compared to them are defended because it is seen as another unfair charge.

The people that want to honor dead relatives are not equvilent to the actual Nazi's demonstrating in Charlottesville. I just called the people carrying Nazi flags Nazis, but I have to admit reluctance to do it for fear bieng seen as another hysteric.

And yet a portion of the population believe jews deserved what they got and many don't mind keeping Nazi paraphanelia or getting a swastika or 1488 tattoo...come to think of it the confederate protesters in Charlottesville had no problems marching arm in arm with neo-Nazis. I guess that puts to rest any lingering doubts about the link between confederacy the south and racism


I'm guessing a lot of this is highly sensationalized and purported exist to the degree it's purported to.

I'm also gussting there's a number of Aussies who have swastika and 1488 et al tattoos.

Saw a number of men when I was in a San Diego hotel swimming pool about 8 years ago with both types of tattoos. I discreetly asked the concierge who they might be and whether it was safe for my wife and daughter. I was told these men belonged to the naval base and that I should be fine as they mainly dislike Mexicans. Needless to say we didn't return to the pool.


I live next to a large Navy base and I have never seen any sailors with nazi tattoos hanging out at the beach. Nor in my lifetime of living in Las Vgeas and having seen hundreds of people in beach attire at hotel swimming pools, have I seen anyone sporting nazi tattoos. Nor have I known of local navy base or air force base (there's a huge air force base in vegas) personnel to hang out at hotel swimming pools. I asked my dad about this and he said, "that's a huge load of nonsense son".

But I'm still gussting there's a number of Aussies who have swastika tattoos.


Yeah, well time to wake up. The military is often the breeding ground for many of the racist organizations.


In the military, racist tattoos are illegal.


Apparently not in San Diego.


They're illegal everywhere.

A few idiots not following the regs doesn't mean the regs don't exist.


The point is, military personnel aren't allowed to not follow regs in such an overt manner as having nazi tattoos are they? As in a regulation like that is not optional. The navy base in San Deigo being the exception was a sarcastic remark.



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15 Aug 2017, 12:34 pm

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Just because a lot of the left is about hysterical and smearing accusations does not mean some of the accusations are not true.


To me it means they lack overall credibility over it. And truth can be twisted for the sake of fitting an agenda. I think Trump could have been battled a lot more effectively. It seems to me that the left, democrats, whoever have totally blown this thing for themselves and just keep adding to it.



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EzraS wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Stigmatization is what it's all about. Nazi this nazi that. nazi nazi nazi, phobe phobe phobe. Whilst they riot riot riot.


What calling everybody Nazi or racist does is cause moral confusion, if everybody is a Nazi nobody is. The true evil of Nazism get muddled and the bad of the people bieng compared to them are defended because it is seen as another unfair charge.

The people that want to honor dead relatives are not equvilent to the actual Nazi's demonstrating in Charlottesville. I just called the people carrying Nazi flags Nazis, but I have to admit reluctance to do it for fear bieng seen as another hysteric.

And yet a portion of the population believe jews deserved what they got and many don't mind keeping Nazi paraphanelia or getting a swastika or 1488 tattoo...come to think of it the confederate protesters in Charlottesville had no problems marching arm in arm with neo-Nazis. I guess that puts to rest any lingering doubts about the link between confederacy the south and racism


I'm guessing a lot of this is highly sensationalized and doesn't exist to the degree it's purported to.

I'm also gussting there's a number of Aussies who have swastika and 1488 et al tattoos.


So basically you don't believe nazi's and white supremacists are having demonstrations...and I figure that one who drove that car into the protestors wasn't really trying to hit anyone, it was just media sensationalization. You do realize those sort of neo-nazis and white supremacists think people like you are garbage too...that's right people with autism are also 'inferiors' to them maybe think about that before jumping to defend them or downplaying the issue.


What I don't believe is that most republicans are nazis. They don't make up the majority of white conservatives, the way the leftist propaganda makes out.

The one...one...one...single...sigular...only...one and only one person who drove a car into people...acted alone...alone...alone. Amd the left is exploiting the hell out of it. That's all they really care about it, is the political gains they can milk out of it while shedding crocodile tears as usual.


Says the person who, page after page, thread after thread, is desperately flailing around trying to turn every single comment about actual real life people who we all saw waving swastika's and chanting nazi chants into some cheap political point scoring about 'the left'.



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15 Aug 2017, 12:36 pm

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Just because a lot of the left is about hysterical and smearing accusations does not mean some of the accusations are not true.


To me it means they lack overall credibility over it. And truth can be twisted for the sake of fitting an agenda. I think Trump could have been battled a lot more effectively. It seems to me that the left, democrats, whoever have totally blown this thing for themselves and just keep adding to it.


Kind of looks like you are so extreme on one side of politics you do not even possess the ability to see things objectively any more.