Disabled Alleged Trump Supporter Kidnapped and Tortured

Page 3 of 7 [ 98 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next

white_as_snow
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 2 Dec 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 479

07 Jan 2017, 6:16 pm

Sure its terrible etc.

But white people do this to black people every day all over the world. Lets keep that in mind.



Jacoby
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 10 Dec 2007
Age: 32
Gender: Male
Posts: 14,284
Location: Permanently banned by power tripping mods lol this forum is trash

07 Jan 2017, 6:30 pm

white_as_snow wrote:
Sure its terrible etc.

But white people do this to black people every day all over the world. Lets keep that in mind.


You're wrong to try to downplay it by saying that, it would of been a much bigger story if the roles were reversed. I doesn't happen every day, terrible things like this happen far more frequently than we're aware of but usually race has nothing to do with it. I think the perpetrators of this are pretty much irredeemable, people like that are so broken they can't be fixed and are just a danger to others. It's hard for me to even watch since the victim reminds me of my brother and it brings back memories. They say we autistics lack empathy which couldn't be further from the truth, sociopaths like this are the ones that lack empathy.



Kraichgauer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 47,851
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.

07 Jan 2017, 6:36 pm

white_as_snow wrote:
Sure its terrible etc.

But white people do this to black people every day all over the world. Lets keep that in mind.


Yes, black people have been brutalized by whites time after time. But that must not be allowed to diminish what was done by those racist dickholes. What makes this stand out is that the victim was mentally disabled, and was in no way responsible for their grievances.


_________________
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Drake
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Feb 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,577

08 Jan 2017, 8:24 am

white_as_snow wrote:
Sure its terrible etc.

But white people do this to black people every day all over the world. Lets keep that in mind.

Really? Not that it's even relevant if true, but find me an episode where some whites kidnapped and tortured a black person for being black. Find me a few. Should be real easy when it's happening every day.



Sure it's terrible what Anders Breivik did, etc. But Muslims do this all the time all over the World. Let's keep that in mind.

Ffs man.



BuyerBeware
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Sep 2011
Gender: Female
Posts: 3,476
Location: PA, USA

08 Jan 2017, 1:39 pm

white_as_snow wrote:
Sure its terrible etc.

But white people do this to black people every day all over the world. Lets keep that in mind.


So two wrongs make a right??

Not so much. Two wrongs make more wrong in the world.

Revenge makes a cycle that never ends.

It feels like s**t to not repay evil with evil, but that's the monkey talking.

It's one thing to defend yourself, something else entirely to just keep feeding the cycle, s**t without end amen.


_________________
"Alas, our dried voices when we whisper together are quiet and meaningless, as wind in dry grass, or rats' feet over broken glass in our dry cellar." --TS Eliot, "The Hollow Men"


Raptor
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,997
Location: Southeast U.S.A.

08 Jan 2017, 2:18 pm

white_as_snow wrote:
Sure its terrible etc.

But white people do this to black people every day all over the world. Lets keep that in mind.


So if I looked I could find a youtube video similar to this one where whites captured and tortured a mentally disabled black person because Obama got elected? That would be the equivalent.


_________________
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
- Thomas Jefferson


Raptor
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,997
Location: Southeast U.S.A.

08 Jan 2017, 2:30 pm

AspieUtah wrote:
underwater wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
underwater wrote:
Adamantium wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Apparently the perpetrators where charged with a hate crime, in spite of all the people who were concerned it wouldn't be classed as a hate crime due to the perpetrators being black.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38525549?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook

Good.

Very appropriate, if this is not a hate crime, the law is meaningless.

Is there in fact any evidence at all that this guy was a Trump supporter? So far, it seems he was picked because he was white and disabled.

I don't know about other states and nations, but the hate-crime laws that I helped write for my state don't have a provision stating that they apply only to one perpetrator or another.

Sorry, I didn't understand what this was a comment on?

Just an example of how good laws apply to all.


Even in this rather heinous case I'm still not in favor of hate crime laws for thier abuse potential. For a prosecutor it's all about putting someone in jail (a win for them) guilty or not, and if it takes misuse of the law to that end so be it. Yes, I am rather cynical.
In this case, those f*****s should be able to get long sentences in maximum security for abduction and torture alone, regardless of who they did it to.


_________________
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
- Thomas Jefferson


Drake
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Feb 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,577

08 Jan 2017, 5:18 pm

I have mixed feelings about hate crime laws. There still needs to be an accounting for the reason why you did something. Say if instead this was because he'd been in the process of raping one of the two females when the other three found him. Handing down the exact same sentence in both scenarios is not right.



friedmacguffins
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 10 Feb 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,539

08 Jan 2017, 10:38 pm

Autonomy is considered a human right, being demanded by BLM. The verdict is based on hate, but will be used to disparage a people group.



beneficii
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 10 May 2005
Age: 40
Gender: Female
Posts: 7,245

09 Jan 2017, 3:21 am

Here a 19-year old white man with 2 other men attacked and raped a black, disabled football player with a clothes hanger, while taunting him with racial slurs, and the prosecutor makes clear there was no hate crime and the man after pleading out was sentenced to 2 years probation, no jail time:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... -rk-howard


_________________
"You have a responsibility to consider all sides of a problem and a responsibility to make a judgment and a responsibility to care for all involved." --Ian Danskin


LoveNotHate
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Oct 2013
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,195
Location: USA

09 Jan 2017, 4:02 am

beneficii wrote:
Here a 19-year old white man with 2 other men attacked and raped a black, disabled football player with a clothes hanger, while taunting him with racial slurs, and the prosecutor makes clear there was no hate crime and the man after pleading out was sentenced to 2 years probation, no jail time:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... -rk-howard

Goodness. Someone actually kicked a coat hanger into the boy's rectum.

"Deputy Attorney General Casey Hemmer said if the case had gone to trial, prosecutors would have been able to prove Howard kicked a coat hanger into his teammate’s rectum during the October 2015 attack"
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/e ... -1.2917313



friedmacguffins
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 10 Feb 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,539

09 Jan 2017, 2:35 pm

Football players wanted me to rape someone, who I went to Sunday school with me.

So, there is another irony, in that prateorian types use hazings, yet are supposed to punish hazing.

I think that black autonomy and black racism are two separate issues.



rats_and_cats
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Jul 2016
Age: 28
Gender: Female
Posts: 627
Location: USA

09 Jan 2017, 5:53 pm

I think in that other case, the main factor is that the attackers were football players, not that they were white. Football players could throw a basket of kittens off the Empire State Building and get away scot free.

Source: Went to a football-obsessed high school, currently work for a football team



Kraichgauer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 47,851
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.

09 Jan 2017, 6:08 pm

friedmacguffins wrote:
Football players wanted me to rape someone, who I went to Sunday school with me.

So, there is another irony, in that prateorian types use hazings, yet are supposed to punish hazing.

I think that black autonomy and black racism are two separate issues.


I hate friggin' jocks.


_________________
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Kraichgauer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 47,851
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.

09 Jan 2017, 6:09 pm

rats_and_cats wrote:
I think in that other case, the main factor is that the attackers were football players, not that they were white. Football players could throw a basket of kittens off the Empire State Building and get away scot free.

Source: Went to a football-obsessed high school, currently work for a football team


Did I mention I hate friggin' jocks?


_________________
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Raptor
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,997
Location: Southeast U.S.A.

09 Jan 2017, 10:15 pm

^
Knew you couldn't pass up the opportunity bring your jock-o-phobia to this.
Maybe try some new material...


_________________
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
- Thomas Jefferson