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Says the person who, page after page, thread after thread, is desperately flailing around trying to turn every single comment about actual real life people who we all saw waving swastika's and chanting nazi chants into some cheap political point scoring about 'the left'.

To me it means they lack overall credibility over it. And truth can be twisted for the sake of fitting an agenda. I think Trump could have been battled a lot more effectively. It seems to me that the left, democrats, whoever have totally blown this thing for themselves and just keep adding to it.

Kind of looks like you are so extreme on one side of politics you do not even possess the ability to see things objectively any more.

Can you give us all some clue as to what the heck you are talking about?

The Demonstrators in Charlottesville included folks wearing German WWII helmets and folks who waved swastika flags. They advertised themselves as being neo Nazi.

So its obvious that that high profile event is NOT what you are talking about.

So what event ARE you talking about?

Was there some other demonstration on Planet Pluto were Republicans (who were not Nazis) demonstrated. And whom were wrongly slandered as being Nazis? When did that happen?

I'm referring to the incident of a lone killer driving a car into people being exploited.

As for the nazi rally, there's been plenty of them before. Where is Obama as president on record for denouncing a nazi rally right after it took place?

Where?

Again.... please help us to understand WTF you're talking about.

When was there a Nazi rally that was not in secret, and that was staged to get to get maximum national attention (even before the deaths) comparable to this event, and on top of that had deaths, like this event during the Obama years?

And BTW (relevant, or not) former president Obama did just tweet about this event. His tweet got more likes than that of the current president about the event.

To me it means they lack overall credibility over it. And truth can be twisted for the sake of fitting an agenda. I think Trump could have been battled a lot more effectively. It seems to me that the left, democrats, whoever have totally blown this thing for themselves and just keep adding to it.

n 1977, the leader of the Nationalist Socialist Party of America, Frank Collin, announced a march through the Chicago suburb of Skokie, Ill. While a neo-Nazi march would be controversial under any circumstances, the fact that one out of six people in Skokie were Holocaust survivors made it even more provocative. Chicago authorities took steps to prevent it, including requiring the NSPA to post $350,000 worth of liability insurance in case any damage occurred. Authorities also banned the display of Nazi images, explaining that the violence that might have been incited overrode free speech protections.

The dispute drew national attention. After the march was initially cancelled, the ACLU took up the case at the urging of Jewish lawyer Joseph Burton, who defended the NSPA’s right to freedom of speech and assembly. Victor Rosenblum, a professor of law at Northwestern University and past chairman of the Anti-Defamation League’s Chicago branch, made the counter-argument: “The Nazis’ march in paraphernalia is a reminder of the most destructive movement in history. They stand for the destruction and wiping out of human beings. This is not constitutionally protected.”

An initial court ruling said the NSPA could march in uniform but not display the swastika, finding that the symbol constitutes “fighting words” unprotected by the Constitution. The court also upheld the liability insurance requirement, despite the fact that it effectively would have made the rally unfeasible. The case was challenged in the Supreme Court in 1977, which declined to overturn the lower court ruling but instructed the state of Illinois to “provide strict procedural safeguards” if it moved to limit free speech.

In January 1978, the Illinois Supreme Court decided that the NSPA march was constitutionally protected, including the right to wear swastikas, ruling that “the display of the swastika, as offensive to the principles of a free nation as the memories it recalls may be, is symbolic political speech intended to convey to the public the beliefs of those who display it.” In February, a federal court went even further, ruling that the ordinances intended to prevent the march were unconstitutional.

The NSPA march was held on June 25, 1978, though the march never materialized. About 20 or so Nazis congregated for only ten minutes, and throngs of Jewish and other groups drowning out their voices. Jewish organizations planned counter marches not only in Skokie, but in New York City and other places

President Carter also issued a statement: “I must respect the decision of the Supreme Court allowing this group (the Nazis) to express their views, even when those views are despicable and ugly as they are in this case. But if such views must be expressed, I am pleased they will not go unanswered. That is why I want to voice my complete solidarity with those citizens of Skokie and Chicago who will gather Sunday in a peaceful demonstration of their abhorrence of Nazism.”
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The Greensboro massacre is the term for an event which took place on November 3, 1979, when members of the Communist Workers' Party and others demonstrated in a Brown Lung in Textile Workers march in Greensboro, North Carolina, United States. The CWP, which had advocated that Klan members should be "physically beaten and chased out of town", engaged in a shootout with members of the Ku Klux Klan and the American Nazi Party. Four members of the Communist Workers' Party, and one other individual were killed and eleven other demonstrators and a Klansman were wounded.

Two criminal trials of several Klan and ANP members were conducted: six men were prosecuted in a state criminal trial in 1980, five were charged with murder. All were acquitted by an all-white jury. A second, federal criminal civil rights trial in 1984 concluded with the acquittal of the nine defendants by an all-white jury.

Survivors filed a civil suit in 1980, led by the Christic Institute[citation needed]. The case in federal district court accused numerous police officers and four federal agents, as well as Klansmen and ANP members, of violating the civil rights of those killed, and it also charged the city with failure to protect the legal demonstration. The jury found the Klan/Nazi shooters liable for the death of Dr. Michael Nathan, the only non-CWP victim.The jury also held the Greensboro Police Department responsible for failing to do more to prevent the shootings, because it was told by an informant that the KKK planned violence. These groups were ordered to pay a total of $350,000 in damages. This is one of the few times in US history when "a jury held local police liable for cooperating with the Ku Klux Klan in a wrongful death."

militia sympathizer Timothy McVeigh blew up a truck full of explosives at the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people and wounding more than 600 in the worst terrorist attack to hit the United States before 9/11.

Then-President Clinton was forced to declare at a press conference, “I’m relevant. The Constitution gives me relevance.” Health-care reform was dead, and Hillary Clinton seemed discredited. Both houses of Congress had gone Republican, and the GOP was rolling out its legislative plans.

The next morning, the Oklahoma City Federal Building exploded. Pundits would go on to write that it was the government shutdown later that year that allowed Clinton to trump the Republicans, but it was actually Oklahoma City that first allowed him to step forward as a national leader. As speechwriter Michael Waldman wrote in his book POTUS Speaks: “It was the nation’s first exposure to Clinton as mourner in chief … In fact, it was the first time Clinton had been a reassuring figure rather than an unsettling one.”

Even more than that, Oklahoma City created a huge political opportunity, which Clinton quickly seized. On April 27, a little more than a week after the bombing, Dick Morris, then a little-known but influential Clinton adviser, presented the President a fantastically naked political memo that, as you can find in his book Behind the Oval Office: Getting Reelected Against All Odds, said: “Permanent possible gain: sets up Extremist Issue vs. Republicans.” Morris suggested using “extremism as issue against Republicans,” not by “direct accusations,” but via a “ricochet theory.”

Clinton should “stimulate national concern over extremism and terror,” Morris wrote, and then “implement intrusive policy against extremist groups.” Morris predicted that radical right-wingers would write their local Republican congressmen, and that in turn “this will provoke criticism by right-wing Republicans which will link right-wing of the party to extremist groups.”

“Net effect,” Morris concluded: “Self-inflicted linkage between party and extremists.”

The Clinton Justice Department didn’t go as far as Morris wanted, but it didn’t matter. Republican members of Congress soon made fools of themselves defending militias. And Clinton found his voice. At a Michigan State commencement address shortly afterward, he told graduates, “There is nothing patriotic about hating your country, or pretending that you can love your country but despise your government.”

In his memoirs, Clinton didn’t mention the Morris memo, but wrote: “The haters and extremists didn’t go away, but they were on the defensive, and, for the rest of my term, would never quite regain the position they had enjoyed after Timothy McVeigh took the demonization of government beyond the limits of humanity.”

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There it is!

Wake up and see something neither I nor my dad has ever seen dispite my lifetime and his 25 years of living near a large navy base and huge air force base?

And are you saying United States military regulations allow millitary personnel wear nazi tattoos while telling me to wake up?

We or just you?



I asked if this was the first time people have staged a neo nazi rally. Is it?



I'm not talking about what the former president just tweeted. I'm asking if he ever made an immediate response to a neo nazi demonstration before as an acting president?

Why don't you just answer my questions?

I'm finding plenty of footage of neo nazi rallies that took place before this one. This is just the tip of the iceberg.






Where's the president making a statement about any of them? I'm not even saying it hasn't happened, I'm just asking when it happened? When has the public demanded a statement from the president during any of these?

Should we treat this as a serious comment?

Because you seem to want to over look the fact that Obama never had a Nazi rally where the Nazis killed someone.