Baltimore: ALL Confederate Statues Have Now Been Removed

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I agree----and, I feel they're being really STUPID, cuz like you say, they can be voted-out; but, I ALSO feel they're doing it, cuz they're afraid they will be voted-out, if they don't.

I think they are being intimidated by the fear of their city being branded as racist and ensuing boycotts and riots.

The local county in Dallas have made a sensible decision in the interest of maintaining civil law and order to remove such an offensive statue.

It may be a "lump of concrete" but it dedicates/glorifies what Robert E Lee fought for which is offensive in this modern era. Racists who want public monuments can "happily" visit museums where they can view other creepy things like KKK white sheets and pictures of lynchings which were a hallmark of the era they yearn for...

...I've already lost a draft of his due to my phone, CC, so I will be iting this in installments...
I was going to start a line about the " Big D Lee flee spree glee! " (Okay, okay, okay - - I always wanted to write headlines for New York City tabloids .), but, since it's in here...But, to start it out...
Bluntly, the interests of those who want the statues taken off of public land, and the interests of those who wish the statues to emain on public kand, or " rights ", as you put it...essentially run 100 percent in opposition to each other. The " anti- staches " want them gone from public land. The " pro-staches " want them kept on publc land.
Remember that leader of the Charlottesville pro-staches legal fight, who, in a TV address, referred to " Martin Luther C**n "? I wonder how many times he said that in private? Now, I' m not saying every pro-stach is like him...Who was, identally, obviously a person of some position and wealth, to be leading a legal fight. Hardly a " Bubba ".
IIRC, your position about the statues' presence on public land was " the people who don't like the statues should just stay away from that part of town "...I am t saying you were thinking of this, but I believe that, in at least some cases in thhe past, the statues were meant to mark " This is the white man's part of town, N.s, STAY OUT! "...



at"]Robert E. Lee statue is taken-down, overnight, in Dallas:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-dalla ... SKCN1BQ07Z

Angered anti-statue-removal people had demonstrated, when they first heard word, that it would be coming-down----but, they removed it, anyway. The "Sons of Confederate Veterans" went to court, to stop it, but they, too, were not successful.

I'm thinking that if the South, of all places, is going to be doing all this anti-Confederate stuff, TOO, this is really gonna get serious, and really put some people, up-in-arms (maybe, literally, armed)----and, all it takes is another nutcake, who snaps, and kills another person(s), for ALL white people / Southerners, AGAIN, to be denigrated / held accountable, for that ONE person.

Again / STILL, my argument, is: Why is it that the FOR-removal people get THEIR way / rights, but the ANTI-removal people, are NOT allowed THEIR rights?[/quote]

Statues aren't needed to mark off white areas in a town, hipster restaurants usually are a sign the area is "white"

...I meant the offical, enforced by law or very strong custom, Jim Crow days, not modern times.








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Statues aren't needed to mark off white areas in a town, hipster restaurants usually are a sign the area is "white"[/quote]

Ah, but the narrative is that The War Between the States was all about slavery and nothing else, and that Robert E. Lee was a renowned slave beater. Go against that narrative and your a troll and a bully.

And then there's the "awful truth" to borrow a line from Michael Moore
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ee/529038/

Moore is an idiot...

You are clearly trying to emulate intellectual-style rhetoric. You aren't doing so well because you are out of your depth.

You don't see me trying to lecture you on how to use a gun. That's probably your area of expertise. You probably shouldn't lecture us about history. That clearly isn't your area of expertise.

I don't think that anyone is saying that the Civil War was all about slavery. That was just the primary factor.

Uncle Tom's Cabin by Harriet Beecher Stowe was popular in the United States in the years leading up to the Civil War. Coincidence?

The Confederate 50$ bill had a picture of slaves on it. Coincidence?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/CSA-T4-%2450-1861.jpg

The Civil War happened when Abe Lincoln was in office. He was famous for ending slavery above all else. Coincidence?

The states that joined the Confederacy were all slave states. Coincidence?

The KKK was formed after the Civil War ended. They wore white robes because they wanted to look like ghosts of confederate soldiers. Coincidence?

The American south continues to be behind the rest of the country on racial issues. Coincidence?

Admit it. You are using "harsh" language to crudely conceal your massive butthurt. Everyone here can see right through you. You aren't actually amused. You are learning that the southerners were the bad guys during the Civil War, and you just can't emotionally cope with that.

"One will rarely err if extreme actions be ascribed to vanity, ordinary actions to habit, and mean actions to fear. "
- Friedrich Nietzsche

Me pretending to be an intellectual? Cupcake, let me let you in on a little secret. I'm a conservative, and as such we take great pleasure in beating up intellectuals, not in emulating them.

Know your enemy

this 'conservatism' seems more aimed at feeding the trolls, btw
any sockpuppet's double?






we'll see if it gets deleted, hé

Then you should remove your offensive lumps of concrete.Australia's white invaders treated (and still do )the Aborginal people terrible.What right do you have to b***h about our race relations?Its like the pot calling the kettle black.Stop complaining to us about our mistreatment of the slaves,you all were just as awful to the natives that inhabitanted that land long before your lily white asses showed up.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... rethinking

Then you should know yours.
In RL or just message boards?
Intellectuals usually don't get their hands dirty "beating" someone up.There are other options if you have a brain to utilize.

The native people of Australia are actually in the same position as native people in your country. What is different is that Australia didn't have a slave driven economy, our colonists had to do all the work in building this nation fromthe ground up.

ROFL! which translates to conservatives are not intellectuals

Thanks for the clarification raptor