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18 Apr 2020, 7:02 pm

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Are people supposed to save their great 2nd ammendment by intimidating governors with firearms, or am I reading too much into that?

Why aren’t the left leaning protests relabeled as intimidating? Why’s it only pro constitutional protests labeled as intimidation?

It was a question, not a statement and I didn't label anyone. What do you think motivated him to make this call to arms?

I’ve seen calls for liberals to liberate red states aka by elections. Nothing I’ve seen from trump calls for arms. Elections for state congresses and governors are coming in November too so he probably wants republicans to vote out democrats in said states. If I was able to and not worried about the virus I’d attend protests too.

Do you think it's possible that reactionary types might misinterpret his words and show up to anti lockdown rallies in those states brandishing guns?



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18 Apr 2020, 7:03 pm

Playing politics during a pandemic is shameless and pathetic.


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18 Apr 2020, 7:27 pm

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The whole idea of Marxism-Leninist Communism revolves around a “liberation” from the forces of capitalism.

And an expansion of this “liberation” around the world.

The Soviets never "conquered". They always "liberated".


George Orwell mentions this tactic in an essay from 1946.

Worth a read and of course still relevant in today's times.

https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/po ... sh/e_polit

...political language has to consist largely of euphemism, question-begging and sheer cloudy vagueness. Defenceless villages are bombarded from the air, the inhabitants driven out into the countryside, the cattle machine-gunned, the huts set on fire with incendiary bullets: this is called pacification. Millions of peasants are robbed of their farms and sent trudging along the roads with no more than they can carry: this is called transfer of population or rectification of frontiers. People are imprisoned for years without trial, or shot in the back of the neck or sent to die of scurvy in Arctic lumber camps: this is called elimination of unreliable elements.


People’s republic of China
People’s Liberation Army
German Democratic Republic
Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

It’s not random that dictatorships choose names that run counter to what they really are. They know how propaganda works.


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18 Apr 2020, 7:29 pm

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Playing politics during a pandemic is shameless and pathetic.

Tell that to democrats who are like wait
The pro 2nd amendment people can’t protest due to this pandemic, perfect time to pass gun control. Want a virus aid bill sure but only if we sneak in some illegal gun registration and confiscation. Democrats are in full one use this to our advantage mode.
They want another patriot act passed during national panic type thing.


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18 Apr 2020, 7:31 pm

domineekee wrote:
sly279 wrote:
domineekee wrote:
sly279 wrote:
domineekee wrote:
Are people supposed to save their great 2nd ammendment by intimidating governors with firearms, or am I reading too much into that?

Why aren’t the left leaning protests relabeled as intimidating? Why’s it only pro constitutional protests labeled as intimidation?

It was a question, not a statement and I didn't label anyone. What do you think motivated him to make this call to arms?

I’ve seen calls for liberals to liberate red states aka by elections. Nothing I’ve seen from trump calls for arms. Elections for state congresses and governors are coming in November too so he probably wants republicans to vote out democrats in said states. If I was able to and not worried about the virus I’d attend protests too.

Do you think it's possible that reactionary types might misinterpret his words and show up to anti lockdown rallies in those states brandishing guns?


It’s their right and logical to have guns at a pro 2a rally to protect the right to own guns.
You must not be American?


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18 Apr 2020, 7:41 pm

sly279 wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
domineekee wrote:
Are people supposed to save their great 2nd ammendment by intimidating governors with firearms, or am I reading too much into that?

Why aren’t the left leaning protests relabeled as intimidating? Why’s it only pro constitutional protests labeled as intimidation?


It has nothing to do with who is protesting what & everything to do with the fact that they’re showing up with loaded guns dressed in army guy Halloween costumes.

We have the right to bear arms and protest with said arms. So you think the bill of rights is intimidating?

The militia aka any able body citizen tends to wear camo(which is also legal to own and wear. I own a lot of camo uniforms)

Bearing arms and wearing camo isnt intimidating except to sjw who don’t like anything or anyone different then them.

Bearing arms tia. Protest about the right to bear arms being attacked is valid.
Just like African Americans sitting in at all white restaurants or buses.


:lol:

It’s a good thing I wasn’t taking a sip of my drink when I read that!

African Americans conducting a peaceful protest of a sit in at all white restaurants or buses is not comparable to some group of combat cosplayers armed to the teeth.

What part of loaded guns and military clothing are intended to intimidate do you not understand? Or do you really not get why the army has guns and military uniforms instead of bubble wands and a casual dress code of Hawaiian shirts? :?


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18 Apr 2020, 7:44 pm

sly279 wrote:
domineekee wrote:
sly279 wrote:
domineekee wrote:
Are people supposed to save their great 2nd ammendment by intimidating governors with firearms, or am I reading too much into that?

Why aren’t the left leaning protests relabeled as intimidating? Why’s it only pro constitutional protests labeled as intimidation?

It was a question, not a statement and I didn't label anyone. What do you think motivated him to make this call to arms?

I’ve seen calls for liberals to liberate red states aka by elections. Nothing I’ve seen from trump calls for arms. Elections for state congresses and governors are coming in November too so he probably wants republicans to vote out democrats in said states. If I was able to and not worried about the virus I’d attend protests too.


Except people with expert knowledge of free speech and what trump tweeted say otherwise:

https://www.alternet.org/2020/04/legal- ... 4.facebook

Maybe this will lead to his 2nd impeachment? Maybe he won’t even pass Go or collect $200 & will go directly to jail for TRE45ON?


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18 Apr 2020, 7:46 pm

sly279 wrote:
Syd wrote:
magz wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
The whole idea of Marxism-Leninist Communism revolves around a “liberation” from the forces of capitalism.

And an expansion of this “liberation” around the world.

The Soviets never "conquered". They always "liberated".


George Orwell mentions this tactic in an essay from 1946.

Worth a read and of course still relevant in today's times.

https://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/po ... sh/e_polit

...political language has to consist largely of euphemism, question-begging and sheer cloudy vagueness. Defenceless villages are bombarded from the air, the inhabitants driven out into the countryside, the cattle machine-gunned, the huts set on fire with incendiary bullets: this is called pacification. Millions of peasants are robbed of their farms and sent trudging along the roads with no more than they can carry: this is called transfer of population or rectification of frontiers. People are imprisoned for years without trial, or shot in the back of the neck or sent to die of scurvy in Arctic lumber camps: this is called elimination of unreliable elements.


People’s republic of China
People’s Liberation Army
German Democratic Republic
Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

It’s not random that dictatorships choose names that run counter to what they really are. They know how propaganda works.


You forgot one:

America; land of the free.


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18 Apr 2020, 7:48 pm

sly279 wrote:
blackicmenace wrote:
Playing politics during a pandemic is shameless and pathetic.

Tell that to democrats who are like wait
The pro 2nd amendment people can’t protest due to this pandemic, perfect time to pass gun control. Want a virus aid bill sure but only if we sneak in some illegal gun registration and confiscation. Democrats are in full one use this to our advantage mode.
They want another patriot act passed during national panic type thing.


Or perhaps they want to continue having months without school shootings after kids go back to school?

Clearly the free for all gun laws in the USA that have resulted in America having more guns than people aren’t exactly working so s**t hot.. so why oppose some common sense gun control measures to keep guns out of the hands of people who should never have them?


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18 Apr 2020, 7:50 pm

sly279 wrote:
domineekee wrote:
sly279 wrote:
domineekee wrote:
sly279 wrote:
domineekee wrote:
Are people supposed to save their great 2nd ammendment by intimidating governors with firearms, or am I reading too much into that?

Why aren’t the left leaning protests relabeled as intimidating? Why’s it only pro constitutional protests labeled as intimidation?

It was a question, not a statement and I didn't label anyone. What do you think motivated him to make this call to arms?

I’ve seen calls for liberals to liberate red states aka by elections. Nothing I’ve seen from trump calls for arms. Elections for state congresses and governors are coming in November too so he probably wants republicans to vote out democrats in said states. If I was able to and not worried about the virus I’d attend protests too.

Do you think it's possible that reactionary types might misinterpret his words and show up to anti lockdown rallies in those states brandishing guns?


It’s their right and logical to have guns at a pro 2a rally to protect the right to own guns.
You must not be American?


Except it’s not a pro 2a rally. He told them to pick up their guns and intimidate their state governors over Coronavirus mitigation efforts locking down their states.


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18 Apr 2020, 8:01 pm

sly279 wrote:
domineekee wrote:
sly279 wrote:
domineekee wrote:
sly279 wrote:
domineekee wrote:
Are people supposed to save their great 2nd ammendment by intimidating governors with firearms, or am I reading too much into that?

Why aren’t the left leaning protests relabeled as intimidating? Why’s it only pro constitutional protests labeled as intimidation?

It was a question, not a statement and I didn't label anyone. What do you think motivated him to make this call to arms?

I’ve seen calls for liberals to liberate red states aka by elections. Nothing I’ve seen from trump calls for arms. Elections for state congresses and governors are coming in November too so he probably wants republicans to vote out democrats in said states. If I was able to and not worried about the virus I’d attend protests too.

Do you think it's possible that reactionary types might misinterpret his words and show up to anti lockdown rallies in those states brandishing guns?


It’s their right and logical to have guns at a pro 2a rally to protect the right to own guns.
You must not be American?

I didn't hear any mention of a pro 2a rally. When is the next pro 2a rally?



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18 Apr 2020, 8:02 pm

I wouldn't say the US is living up to being "united" these days. Even republicans and democrats are fighting with each other over lack of leadership and intercine divisions. ironic



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18 Apr 2020, 8:54 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
sly279 wrote:
domineekee wrote:
Are people supposed to save their great 2nd ammendment by intimidating governors with firearms, or am I reading too much into that?

Why aren’t the left leaning protests relabeled as intimidating? Why’s it only pro constitutional protests labeled as intimidation?


It has nothing to do with who is protesting what & everything to do with the fact that they’re showing up with loaded guns dressed in army guy Halloween costumes.

We have the right to bear arms and protest with said arms. So you think the bill of rights is intimidating?

The militia aka any able body citizen tends to wear camo(which is also legal to own and wear. I own a lot of camo uniforms)

Bearing arms and wearing camo isnt intimidating except to sjw who don’t like anything or anyone different then them.

Bearing arms tia. Protest about the right to bear arms being attacked is valid.
Just like African Americans sitting in at all white restaurants or buses.


:lol:

It’s a good thing I wasn’t taking a sip of my drink when I read that!

African Americans conducting a peaceful protest of a sit in at all white restaurants or buses is not comparable to some group of combat cosplayers armed to the teeth.

What part of loaded guns and military clothing are intended to intimidate do you not understand? Or do you really not get why the army has guns and military uniforms instead of bubble wands and a casual dress code of Hawaiian shirts? :?

Civil rights are civil rights,
So African Americans peacefully sitting in a dinner is same as pro 2a people peacefully gathering wirh guns over the shoulders

They don’t intimidate me Orr half of the USA. Why are you intimidated?

The military wears uniforms to help stay hidden and be recognized same reason militia do . Militia are a legal and protected under USA law. The USA isn’t Canada.

I find it odd you’re intimidated by people in camo with guns over the should peacefully gathering but not antifa wearing all black with mask, assaulting people and burning buildings. Or black life matters.

I’d wager you’re find with blank panthers gathering with guns?


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18 Apr 2020, 8:56 pm

domineekee wrote:
sly279 wrote:
domineekee wrote:
sly279 wrote:
domineekee wrote:
sly279 wrote:
domineekee wrote:
Are people supposed to save their great 2nd ammendment by intimidating governors with firearms, or am I reading too much into that?

Why aren’t the left leaning protests relabeled as intimidating? Why’s it only pro constitutional protests labeled as intimidation?

It was a question, not a statement and I didn't label anyone. What do you think motivated him to make this call to arms?

I’ve seen calls for liberals to liberate red states aka by elections. Nothing I’ve seen from trump calls for arms. Elections for state congresses and governors are coming in November too so he probably wants republicans to vote out democrats in said states. If I was able to and not worried about the virus I’d attend protests too.

Do you think it's possible that reactionary types might misinterpret his words and show up to anti lockdown rallies in those states brandishing guns?


It’s their right and logical to have guns at a pro 2a rally to protect the right to own guns.
You must not be American?

I didn't hear any mention of a pro 2a rally. When is the next pro 2a rally?


2a is 2nd amendment.
Right if the people to bear arms. Rally is a protest. It’s a protest to oppose further violations of the constitution and bill of rights. They are always peacefully and even clean up after themselves unlike when left protests. They also file permits usually.


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18 Apr 2020, 9:17 pm

sly279 wrote:
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Are people supposed to save their great 2nd ammendment by intimidating governors with firearms, or am I reading too much into that?

Why aren’t the left leaning protests relabeled as intimidating? Why’s it only pro constitutional protests labeled as intimidation?

Even the "crazy socialist" isn't doing armed insurrection dogwhistles. I actually wish someone on the left would. When it comes to people with actual power, only right-wingers are allowed to do crazy talk. The greed of the 1% in this country is out of control, yet only their staunch defenders can elect s**theads that threaten violence to power. You know this s**t can't be a one-way-street forever. Eventually the poors are going to rebel. Landlords are already being shot for rudely demanding rent and threatening evictions during a quarantine. Good riddance. People will draw the line at dying for the parasitic slave-drivers of our economy.



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18 Apr 2020, 9:19 pm

Nobody would be okay with Black Panthers having a public meeting with guns. Where would you get that idea?