Democrats now eliminating Founding Fathers names from events

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23 Jul 2015, 7:48 pm

Connecticut Dems strip Jefferson, Jackson names from fundraising dinner
Connecticut state Democrats voted Wednesday to remove the names of former presidents Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson from their annual fundraising dinner, reportedly because of their ties to slavery.

According to the Hartford Courant, it only took two minutes for the Connecticut Democratic State Central Committee to unanimously pass a resolution stripping both names from the title of the Jefferson-Jackson-Bailey Dinner.

Party Chairman Nick Balletto proposed the change. He told the Daily Caller the decision, which apparently came under pressure from the NAACP, was about party identity.

Let the NAACP led book burnings continue



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24 Jul 2015, 2:13 pm

This is just another example of P.C. thought. They look only at the bad, never at the good. I can agree with not honoring Andrew Jackson, as he was a jerk. However, Jefferson did much more good for our young republic then bad for an insignificant minority. And, in the end, he freed all his slaves ( after his death).



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24 Jul 2015, 2:42 pm

Good. Jefferson and Jackson are rolling over in their grave seeing what has happened to their party. I thought they should of taken Jackson off the $20 too, not because he isn't worthy but because putting his face on a federal reserve note is probably the greatest disrespect you could give him considering his life's work. Republicans should stop having Lincoln Day dinners too. Both parties probably should stop honoring a guys who would consider them traitors in their time.



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25 Jul 2015, 12:25 am

Jacoby wrote:
Good. Jefferson and Jackson are rolling over in their grave seeing what has happened to their party. I thought they should of taken Jackson off the $20 too, not because he isn't worthy but because putting his face on a federal reserve note is probably the greatest disrespect you could give him considering his life's work. Republicans should stop having Lincoln Day dinners too. Both parties probably should stop honoring a guys who would consider them traitors in their time.

You want to demote Jackson back to the $10?

The Republicans already hate Lincoln for being a dirty liberal who imposed those values on the country through a brutal war.
This is happening due to the massive conservative swing of the Republicans.

To be fair Jefferson promised his dying wife, he'd never have relations with another woman again, yet he still got it on with his slave mistress even when his wife was alive.
Oh he lets not talk about how he treated his half slave children and had to be bailed out many times due his financial issues.
He also destroyed his friendship with John Adams to win the 1800 election with a huge public dishonest personal smear campaign.

Jackson on the other hand openly ignored a Supreme Court ruling by removing the Native Americans from the East and massacring them.
He also did a lot of unsavory things including making the Democratic symbol the Donkey!


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28 Jul 2015, 1:23 am

xenocity wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Good. Jefferson and Jackson are rolling over in their grave seeing what has happened to their party. I thought they should of taken Jackson off the $20 too, not because he isn't worthy but because putting his face on a federal reserve note is probably the greatest disrespect you could give him considering his life's work. Republicans should stop having Lincoln Day dinners too. Both parties probably should stop honoring a guys who would consider them traitors in their time.

You want to demote Jackson back to the $10?

The Republicans already hate Lincoln for being a dirty liberal who imposed those values on the country through a brutal war.
This is happening due to the massive conservative swing of the Republicans.

To be fair Jefferson promised his dying wife, he'd never have relations with another woman again, yet he still got it on with his slave mistress even when his wife was alive.
Oh he lets not talk about how he treated his half slave children and had to be bailed out many times due his financial issues.
He also destroyed his friendship with John Adams to win the 1800 election with a huge public dishonest personal smear campaign.

Jackson on the other hand openly ignored a Supreme Court ruling by removing the Native Americans from the East and massacring them.
He also did a lot of unsavory things including making the Democratic symbol the Donkey!


Well, dirty liberals like me love Lincoln; and so if the Republicans don't want him, we'll take him!


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28 Jul 2015, 1:30 am

Lincoln was still racist, though (and saying that, "they all were back then" isn't a valid argument).

Anyway, there's another group operating in a part of the world that removes icons and history from things they find disgusting. A rose by any other name and all that.



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28 Jul 2015, 1:40 am

Dillogic wrote:
Lincoln was still racist, though (and saying that, "they all were back then" isn't a valid argument).

Anyway, there's another group operating in a part of the world that removes icons and history from things they find disgusting. A rose by any other name and all that.


Since when did historians start revising and rewriting history, a la the Klingon Empire after Worf had his honor restored during the run of ST:TNG?



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28 Jul 2015, 1:59 am

Dillogic wrote:
Lincoln was still racist, though (and saying that, "they all were back then" isn't a valid argument).

Anyway, there's another group operating in a part of the world that removes icons and history from things they find disgusting. A rose by any other name and all that.


He was much less racist than his contemporaries, particularly those leading the confederacy (one only need read the justification for slavery by the Confederate Vice President, Alexander Stevens, or the Confederate constitution or declaration of war). In the end, Lincoln dropped his plans to colonize freed blacks elsewhere, realizing that whites would have to learn to live with them, and even planning to extend citizenship and the right to vote to blacks. I think Lincoln's actions in ending slavery far outweighed his earlier words and opinions.


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28 Jul 2015, 2:46 am

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I think Lincoln's actions in ending slavery far outweighed his earlier words and opinions.


Yes, but the fact still remains. Putting him as an arbiter for anti-racism is in error. Not that I'm saying that's what you or anyone else here is doing, but it's something people do to justify say...removing Jefferson but not someone else from something.

Healing doesn't come from destroying, rather understanding, and if that can't be done, accepting.



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28 Jul 2015, 3:32 am

Jackson always struck me as kind of a douchebag and it has little to nothing to do with slavery. Jefferson, on the other hand, was a brilliant man and contributed too much to be discounted because of his few vices.
What do those yahoos in Connecticut want to do next, burn history books?


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28 Jul 2015, 11:01 am

Dillogic wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I think Lincoln's actions in ending slavery far outweighed his earlier words and opinions.


Yes, but the fact still remains. Putting him as an arbiter for anti-racism is in error. Not that I'm saying that's what you or anyone else here is doing, but it's something people do to justify say...removing Jefferson but not someone else from something.

Healing doesn't come from destroying, rather understanding, and if that can't be done, accepting.


Again, Lincoln's actions speak louder than his words, and so he has earned a place in the pantheon of racial justice.
I am in total agreement that Jefferson should not be x'ed out of history. Rather, we should make it a point of pride that our nation was founded not by demigods who were resistant to human weakness, as some today try to portray them, but by mere mortals, who despite their flaws, were able to accomplish great things.


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