obama restricts deliveries of military equipment to police

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is obama's restrictions of military equipment to local police useful or not?
yes, it is a good start. but MUCH more needs to be done :) 50%  50%  [ 6 ]
meh, it is better than nothing. :| 8%  8%  [ 1 ]
it's too little, too late :shrug: 17%  17%  [ 2 ]
I don't care one way or another. :| 17%  17%  [ 2 ]
wrongheaded, cops need MORE military gear, NOT less! :x 8%  8%  [ 1 ]
I wanna nice yummy ice cream :chef: 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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18 May 2015, 8:52 pm

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/18/polit ... index.html
so finally now, the cops won't be getting too much more in the way of MRAPs and grenade launchers and such. all well and good, but isn't the cat already out of the bag, the horse bolted out of the barn and all the way down the pike by now? isn't that too little too daggone late to do any good for the long-suffering inner-city lower classes?



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19 May 2015, 2:34 am



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19 May 2015, 2:56 am

reminds me of something out of "a clockwork orange" where the politicians deftly take advantage of present developments.



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19 May 2015, 10:14 am

Yeah, the cat is kind of already out of the bag on this one. Its been 14+ years of militarized police so to "restrict" deliveries now doesn't really make much of difference. The way policing is done needs to be fundamentally reformed and the laws need to be changed to reflect this, it won't happen as this is a great distraction for politicians and it would shift the blame from "racist cops" to racist legislators.



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19 May 2015, 10:22 am

I have long believed that the militarization of local law-enforcement agencies is nothing more than a federalized caching of weapons for future use. The LEAs don't need the materiel and have little use for it except for parades and school presentations. But, the feds must know this and, yet, they still provide more. Why? Because little-used equipment will be legally retrieved by the feds when it is needed. This saves the costs of transporting the equipment to and fro.

Now, the question is: Why would such an elaborate scheme be so well funded and operational as we speak?


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19 May 2015, 11:40 am

Jacoby wrote:
Yeah, the cat is kind of already out of the bag on this one. Its been 14+ years of militarized police so to "restrict" deliveries now doesn't really make much of difference. The way policing is done needs to be fundamentally reformed and the laws need to be changed to reflect this, it won't happen as this is a great distraction for politicians and it would shift the blame from "racist cops" to racist legislators.


Perhaps they should follow it up with confiscating military equipment from police departments, and clean up some of the corruption as well.


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19 May 2015, 2:28 pm

look to the example of the one bad apple infecting the bunch. many PDs will need a total overhaul, starting from scratch, as the dissocial mentality within is so pervasive that nothing less will cure the infection.



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19 May 2015, 9:20 pm

It doesn't matter who is doing the job if the job is bad, for the most part these cops are just doing their jobs and that's exactly the problem. There are racist cops and just bad people in general on the force but the very nature of the job lends itself to abuse and brutality, mention it all the time but the Stanford Prison experiment is as relevant as ever. The problem are the politicians, as always. Until the laws are changed and how we do policing in this country is fundamentally reformed nothing will change and it will probably get ever worse. The War On Drugs is responsible in large part for this militarization of police and the prison industrial complex, to me it is 21st century equivalent to slavery and the genocide of the American Indian. It's a stain on our country and I don't hear anybody talking about this when it comes these police problems lately.

Obvious the War on Terror has played a role as well, they've used it as an excuse to bring real weapons of war to our streets and to trample over our constitution. We need to reject this fear, we can't surrender our freedom to fascists in exchange for security, all we are doing is selling ourselves into slavery.