Sex crimes in Europe by North African and Arab men

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I don't believe they are allowed to own guns for the use of self-defense, people only have low capacity manual reloading rifles for sport shooting or hunting clubs and they are not easy to get. If somebody is from Germany they can correct me if I'm wrong.

You mean to say they aren't already?

Remember what happened in Steubenville a few years ago? A group of white boys raped two girls (in a coordinated and premeditated act), and the local government did everything they could to cover it up? These kinds of stories happen all the time. The only reason the Steubenville case got national attention was because of the brazenness of the perpetrators, bragging about it on social media. Yet I don't remember anyone saying "this is a problem with white culture." I don't remember anyone launching a campaign to keep white people out of their countries in light of a violent crime. Usually the race of the perpetrator(s) isn't even mentioned. This is white privilege.


I'm not excusing anyone for anything. But it seems like in a country that already does everything it can to make its immigrants feel unwelcome, German citizens are chomping at the bit for any excuse to expel the minority ethnic group from its borders. The fact that people were literally waiting, almost hoping to catch an immigrant committing a crime, speaks volumes about German society.

I remember many people saying this is a problem of jock culture. The differences between these crimes and those recently occurring in Germany is very great. It makes no sense to try to obfuscate the very clear details of what happened in these cases with reflexive defensiveness about racism.

It's only natural that racists respond to these events from within their conceptual frameworks, but that doesn't mean that non-racists can't ever look at the cultural background of criminals in case it might appear racist. Criminal investigations should focus on the truth of real events without regard for political agenda.

There were serious human rights violations here. They were perpetrated by the gangs on their female victims.

You seem to be saying that certain groups of people are above criticism, while at the same time being critical of others, which makes you a hypocrite, and very hard to take seriously.

What? Germans are literally the most self-hating people in the world after probably the Swedes who is even worse off immigration wise being a much smaller country. The reason they even let these people in is because of the guilt they have drilled into the heads since as early they can remember. People weren't waiting or hoping to catch a refugee, everybody just saw it coming a mile away. Cologne I guess one of the most "progressive" cities in Germany, it was political correctness that and the fear of harpies screaming racism and Nazi. The German people have to live like they're under siege as punishment for what happened more than 70 years ago?

Comparing this attack to that case in Steubenville is just silly, there were at least 200 sexual assaults and robberies and 2 full on rapes. It wasn't coordinated or premeditated from what I remember, there was some girl that got too drunk at a party and some football players took advantage of her which is wrong and they deserve to be punished but no it's not anything remotely the same as 1000+ strong gang attacking hundreds of random people in public spaces in multiple locations and different cities, this is UNPRECEDENTED. Steubenville was 2 football players, one black and one white and 100% it brought into question the culture of high school athletics especially in these small towns.

It's not unprecedented I should say, I remember there being some mass sex assaults a few years ago just like this but it was in Egypt during their revolution. Maybe we should do an experiment if you ever go to the middle east, go run around by yourself without a hijab or veil around. You know what they do to Christian women in the middle east? Look it up. Rape, kidnapping, forced conversion, and slavery. You are ignorant of the middle east, it's okay, I've been fascinated with that part of the world most my life now but everything I see supports the fact that Islam is a hostile foreign culture not a peaceful one. Islam doesn't mean peace, it means submission.

When you encounter a RABID DOG, lady, you don't sweet-talk it into behaving itself. You treat a RABID DOG like you treat a RABID dog, in the language that RABID DOGS actually understand. That doesn't make you an Islamic extremist, that makes you an opponent that deals with third rate fanatic scum in an effective manner.

And it's apologetic claims like this -- "should we stop using kid gloves because that's the cultured thing to do ?" -- serves nothing more than to guilt the victims and shame them for wanting an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I also get that Gandhi claimed that that would make the whole world blind and toothless, but better a blind, toothless enemy than a rape victim every second of every day.



Respect from Islamic terrorists, LOL. But nice try... keep guilting and shaming those who advocate a more aggressive approach because it was the womens' fault to not don a hijab and a burqa..... not the pooooooooooooor immigrants' because they were only acting on their instincts and on their alleged religious directives to treat women with such brutality. Keep saying that it's all the women's fault -- that's the politically correct way.

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Pardon me, I'm getting my stories mixed up. I was thinking of the case in Maryville, which was in the news in 2013. Like I said, this stuff happens all the time. And no, "athletics culture" is not a culture the same way as being Arab. You can quit being an athlete. You can't quit being an Arab, so there's absolutely no comparison to be made here. Criticizing a problematic sports culture is not equivalent to racism.


The Arab Spring was a CIA black-op. Most of the violence in the middle east is instigated by agents-provocateurs.


So now you're resorting to personal attacks and bullying? Cool it Jacoby.


This level of dehumanizing hatred is where violence begins.

No, the violence begins when members of a particular religion attack and rape women because they exposed their hair or wore allegedly "skimpy" outfits which are forbidden by their supposed "religion of peace".

What exactly do you find "human" about gangs of rapists ?

The fact that most of them aren't rapists at all, and just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time; and are unfairly being lumped in with violent criminals just because they happen to be the same race. Which, you then proceed to call "rabid dogs" because of their race. Lady, if that's not blind hate then I don't know what is.

Do you read for comprehension ?

Go back and re-read my posts again. I specifically referred to rapists as "rabid dogs", not any random Mohammed, Hussain, and Ali who "just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time". YOU have the gall to accuse me of "dehumanizing hatred" and inciting violence ? I am not the one running around attacking anyone who isn't dressed per my backward, medieval, so-called "religion of peace's" dress code, "lady". And I am not the one without a shred of empathy for those poor girls who were the ones in the wrong place at the wrong time. Look in the mirror and you will know exactly who the dehumanizing hater is.

Oh, BTW, you do know that there are NON-Muslim Arabs and North Africans ? Yeah, surprise, surprise ! !! Learn the difference between religion and race, first, then come on here to accuse people of "racism". I am not attacking all North Africans and Arabs, but some violent members who subscribe to unbridled misogyny and misanthropic belief systems aka "the rabid dogs".

Another BTW, it's not "racism" to point out problematic characteristics - such misogyny and a penchant for violence - in a set group of people. Facts aren't racist, they are just facts.

A bunch of white guys trying to convince a feminist of the existence of a rape culture; classic.

So? The thread title says "North African and Arab men", not "Muslim men." I'm not the one who brought up Islam, and honestly I'd prefer it if you didn't either. I'm a Muslim, FYI. I don't need you to explain my religion and culture to me.

Oh, I knew you were, honey. I knew you were.



How am I trying to explain your "religion" and your "culture" to you ?

Technically, you don't know that, and it's an assumption on your part, just as it's an assumption to say that all of them were sexually abusing women and behaving violently in other ways. Sure, the numbers will probably be small overall, but no one has released any accurate figures other than the amount of people apprehended, which is ~20 (16 IIRC), which isn't telling of too much, as it appeared quite chaotic and it would be impossible to apprehend everyone involved (for various reasons).

Those that abused the women and behaved violently are worst than rabid dogs, however. Dogs don't know better.

Well, you seem to be under the mistaken impression that Islam requires women to cover their hair. You say Islam is misogynistic and misanthropic, backwards and medieval. I of course, understand that Islam is none of the things you have described. You simply have a very warped image of what Muslims believe.

And, instead of concentrating on the actual perpetrators of violence, you are using this incident to attack a bogeyman of "radical Islam." Do you even know whether or not the perpetrators were Muslim? You're derailing the conversation from the facts to focus on your own prejudices and fears. Do you realize how disrespectful that is to the victims?

I am a minority. I've heard hateful remarks from some who don't understand my culture and it used to drive me nuts for many years. As I grew, I noticed something. I noticed that while the hateful remarks were sometimes a bit related just to being different, some of those remarks were indeed true. The longer I lived away from where I was born, the more those remarks made sense to me. Of course, by the time I returned to my country, my view of right from wrong was drastically different than when I left, although of course, some things that they claimed those in my culture did, were things I never originally did. Today, when I hear the fear in people's voices or the anger or anti-immigrant sentiment, I am much more careful as to how I react. The fact is that what many claimed was happening in my culture, is indeed happening, has been happening and there is no hiding it. When I find it, I am in awe, shocked and disgusted, needless to say, many of "my own" don't like me very much for pointing out the obvious lack of respect and behavior that many put them down for.

To assume that just because someone moves into your country, you will all live happily ever after is wrong. Yes, someone from another country can move to your country and like different food or music and that does not negatively impact that country, but rather opens the world to see things differently, but there is a HUGE difference between that and lack of respect for women, abuse of children, lack of respect for personal and public property...and as a whole, from my experience ONLY, people who have those differences hardly ever change, especially if they are adults...that's not something other countries should have to just put up with and accept.