Is Trump a Russian puppet?
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Chicago Tribune: Commentary: Donald Trump's Russia problems are getting worse
Kushner may have been the one doing the legwork, but it's Trump's money. How much does he owe VEB?
Washington Post: Trump administration moves to return Russian compounds in Maryland and New York
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Giving the properties back to the ambassadors when it is clear that they did interfere with the election is an odd move on Trump's part, I think.
How did their properties interfere in the election? What is the point of seizing it? It's all quite petty.
How did they interfere in the election? Because Russia Today didn't follow a script from the DNC? They want to blame Russia for Wikileaks but I don't think anybody is that stupid, I hope not at least. There is a deliberate muddying of the facts here, they want people to assume Russia effected the vote totals when their alleged interference is so convoluted and straight up unprovable. John Podesta's password was 'password', that was his default password that he never changed it for like 2 years AND he fell for basic phishing. Also investigate Seth Rich, the DNC leaks were an inside job.
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Like this:
Wikipedia: Murder of Seth Rich
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Вы работаете в субботу? Как погода в Москве?
Even Fox Noise has back-pedaled on the Seth Rich conspiracy theory. Only Russian trolls would continue to be promoting it at this point.
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The true is that no matter the proofs you will never accept that it could be true accusations.
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This is such a fascinating period in history where there were protests and riots, actors begging electors to change their votes and the general public making death threats to electors, which then morphed into a combination of a 1980's Tom Clancy espionage suspense novel and a daily soap opera. A phenomenon which has basically taken over most media and late night TV shows. It's period in history where half a nation went completely bonkers. Will the phenomenon sustain for another 3.5 years, or will it run out of steam way before then?
This is like a parody of quintessential paranoia.
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Even Fox Noise has back-pedaled on the Seth Rich conspiracy theory. Only Russian trolls would continue to be promoting it at this point.
Them, and gullible right wing American idealogues who fall for their propaganda.
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An interesting interview:
https://www.vox.com/conversations/2017/ ... ry-clinton
A lot of commentators here believe the most generous interpretation of Trump’s fawning orientation to Putin and Russia is that he’s hopelessly naïve. Do you buy that?
Mikhail Fishman
That's a good question. Why does he like Putin so much? I think Trump sees Putin as a kind of soulmate. Let's be honest: Trump is not a reflective person. He's quite simple in his thinking, and he's sort of attracted to Putin's brutal forcefulness. If anything, this is what Trump and Putin have in common.
Sean Illing
Has Putin made a puppet of Trump?
Mikhail Fishman
Of course. This is certainly what the Kremlin believes, and they’re acting accordingly. They're quite obviously playing Trump. They consider him a stupid, unstrategic politician. Putin is confident that he can manipulate Trump to his advantage, and he should be.
Sean Illing
In other words, they see in Trump a useful idiot.
Mikhail Fishman
Exactly. The Kremlin is limited in their knowledge about what's going on in Washington, but they see the chaos and the confusion in Trump's administration. They see the clumsiness, the inexperience. Naturally, they're working to exploit that.
Moreover,
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/5/12 ... g-like-one
Donald Trump’s meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak wasn’t just “unprecedented,” it was truly “unpresidented.” No president with a functional State Department would have allowed a foreign minister and an ambassador—the one who’s already tripped up two administration officials (Mike Flynn and Jeff Sessions)—to hobnob with him in the Oval Office. It’s totally demeaning to the office. And now we find out from the Lester Holt interview that Trump did it as the unwitting puppet of Vladimir Putin, because Trump admitted it, of course.
“When I spoke with Putin, he asked me whether or not I would see Lavrov. Now what do I—should I say ‘No, I’m not gonna see him?’ I said, ‘I will see him.’”
Yes, Donald, anyone with a lick of sense given this current political moment would have said, “No. Lavrov can meet with Tillerson.” Instead, we have Trump, gripping and grinning Lavrov and Kislyak like they’re his two new besties.
Now, look, this meeting was deeply problematic on so many levels: the White House locked out U.S. press while allowing a Russian news agency in; it posed a total security risk by agents of the very government that just hacked our democracy; and the White House readout of the Lavrov meeting didn’t even include the fact that Kislyak was there (i.e. without Russian media photos, U.S. press wouldn’t have even known the meddling ambassador was in attendance.)
But consider something else, part of the reason that meeting ever took place is because Trump doesn’t, in fact, have a functional State Department to put the kibosh on such an ill-advised meeting (seriously, every foreign leader around the world now thinks/knows that Trump is Putin’s puppet).
Remember, Trump and Tillerson—who likely has more Russian contacts than any other Trump Cabinet member—have drained the State Department dry of institutional knowledge. There’s been not one, but two major purges at State, resulting in a major brain drain there....
This is like a parody of quintessential paranoia.
There are plenty of Russian trolls working insidiously across the internet.
http://www.propornot.com/2017/03/anatom ... troll.html
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