Jacoby wrote:
GoonSquad wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Trump has to do battle with the deep state, there are people quite literally out to get him who are working or formerly government officials. This isn't paranoia as evidence by the obvious spying on Trump & his associates by the previous administration and the 'mystery' of where all these leaks are coming from. How did they get the conversation from General Flynn again? The MSM and the deep state are closely related, we already know this to be true from the revelations from Wikileaks which showed the high level collusion between the DNC, Clinton campaign, and the MSM.
They got the conversation with Flynn
BECAUSE THEY WERE DOING LEGAL SURVEILLANCE OF A FOREIGN AGENT THAT FLYNN WAS TALKING TO. Flynn needed to be fired because he was not only corrupt (and possibly treasonous) but because he is extremely stupid too.
Flynn had people out to get him, he was not part of the foreign policy or military establishment. His crime in the end is what? That he had some sort of consulting job with the Turks, a NATO ally? Is that really all that scandalous? He might have had contacts with the Russians during the election even? I really don't care if he did since I don't think this all that uncommon, I think it is clearly politics more than anything else.
They spied on private conversations and leaked intelligence information to the press, it was a take down if there ever was one. There was never anything wrong with him talking to the Russian ambassador even about sanctions, this is all based on the false narrative that having anything to do with Russia is criminal. The Democrats are seriously blaming losing the election on Russia and have gone as far as saying that it is an act of war all with absolutely zero proof to back it up, these people are truly deranged!
If there was nothing wrong with what Flynn did, why did he lie about it and why did he get fired for those lies?
As far as the whole Russia meddling in the election goes, if they hacked DNC computers etc. then that was an illegal, aggressive act and they need to be punished for it. If anyone in the Trump campaign active collaborated with them, that too needs to be discovered and punished.
The rest of it, such as Russian agents spreading propaganda, is the price of free speech in America and there's no way to deal with that other than counter speech. If we have become so stupid and debased as to fall for Russian disinformation tactics, then we are doomed.
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