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16 Dec 2017, 1:34 pm

Nothing. Why are you so desperate to label people?


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16 Dec 2017, 4:01 pm

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Nothing. Why are you so desperate to label people?


Why wouldn't I?


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17 Dec 2017, 1:09 am

JohnPowell wrote:
Nothing. Why are you so desperate to label people?


Liberalism it seems is all about labeling people.



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17 Dec 2017, 1:58 am

EzraS wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Nothing. Why are you so desperate to label people?


Liberalism it seems is all about labeling people.


And conservatives don't?


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17 Dec 2017, 2:45 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Nothing. Why are you so desperate to label people?


Liberalism it seems is all about labeling people.


And conservatives don't?


It seems considerably more prevalent in liberalism.

Also if conservatives do it, then one would think liberals would want to abstain from it, rather than practice it.



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17 Dec 2017, 2:51 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Nothing. Why are you so desperate to label people?


Liberalism it seems is all about labeling people.


And conservatives don't?


It seems considerably more prevalent in liberalism.


Only when it's necessary to call attention to how people who are needy or who face social inequality.


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17 Dec 2017, 3:17 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Nothing. Why are you so desperate to label people?


Liberalism it seems is all about labeling people.


And conservatives don't?


It seems considerably more prevalent in liberalism.


Only when it's necessary to call attention to how people who are needy or who face social inequality.


I know it's supposed to be altruistic, but it really doesn't come off that way to me. Seems more like scarlet lettering.



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17 Dec 2017, 1:34 pm

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Nothing. Why are you so desperate to label people?


Liberalism it seems is all about labeling people.


And conservatives don't?


It seems considerably more prevalent in liberalism.


Only when it's necessary to call attention to how people who are needy or who face social inequality.


I know it's supposed to be altruistic, but it really doesn't come off that way to me. Seems more like scarlet lettering.


You can say you're color blind all you want, but a black person is still going to be black. Pretending not to notice it is disingenuous.
Gay people now want to be acknowledged for their sexuality, because their drive for equality depends on not being forced to hide in the closet anymore.
Etc, etc, etc.


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17 Dec 2017, 4:03 pm

EzraS wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Nothing. Why are you so desperate to label people?


Liberalism it seems is all about labeling people.

Tell that to a black person, LBGT person or disabled person who tries to move into an all white, straight, normal neighborhood or an all-white workforce

Right wing conservative folks pretty much label everyone who don't "fit in" in as much as we know the sun will rise and the sky is blue.



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17 Dec 2017, 10:41 pm

cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Nothing. Why are you so desperate to label people?


Liberalism it seems is all about labeling people.

Tell that to a black person, LBGT person or disabled person who tries to move into an all white, straight, normal neighborhood or an all-white workforce

Right wing conservative folks pretty much label everyone who don't "fit in" in as much as we know the sun will rise and the sky is blue.


So liberalism is about doing what's wrong because that's what the bad guys do.



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17 Dec 2017, 11:00 pm

EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Nothing. Why are you so desperate to label people?


Liberalism it seems is all about labeling people.

Tell that to a black person, LBGT person or disabled person who tries to move into an all white, straight, normal neighborhood or an all-white workforce

Right wing conservative folks pretty much label everyone who don't "fit in" in as much as we know the sun will rise and the sky is blue.


So liberalism is about doing what's wrong because that's what the bad guys do.

That's not how I see it. It's about identifying who is vulnerable and protecting them.
Conservative Americans want to return to the wild west cowboy days where if you are strong enough to survive on your own (they even have a name for it - rugged individualism) then you are a true American patriot. If you require any form of welfare i.e. disability and you can't make it on your own then ask your own family - don't be a parasite on the taxpayer- easily explains why conservatives like John Alexander think that people who are on disability have no pride



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17 Dec 2017, 11:08 pm

cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Nothing. Why are you so desperate to label people?


Liberalism it seems is all about labeling people.

Tell that to a black person, LBGT person or disabled person who tries to move into an all white, straight, normal neighborhood or an all-white workforce

Right wing conservative folks pretty much label everyone who don't "fit in" in as much as we know the sun will rise and the sky is blue.


So liberalism is about doing what's wrong because that's what the bad guys do.

That's not how I see it. It's about identifying who is vulnerable and protecting them.


By using the same tactics as their oppressors. Turning the tables and using wrongdoing agaist the wrongdoers.



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17 Dec 2017, 11:31 pm

EzraS wrote:
By using the same tactics as their oppressors. Turning the tables and using wrongdoing agaist the wrongdoers.

Not really Ezra, it's about compassion for the oppressed



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17 Dec 2017, 11:43 pm

cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
By using the same tactics as their oppressors. Turning the tables and using wrongdoing agaist the wrongdoers.

Not really Ezra, it's about compassion for the oppressed


In other words the end justifies the means.



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17 Dec 2017, 11:54 pm

EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
By using the same tactics as their oppressors. Turning the tables and using wrongdoing agaist the wrongdoers.

Not really Ezra, it's about compassion for the oppressed


In other words the end justifies the means.


Then just how would you right wrongs and injustices? Or would you?


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17 Dec 2017, 11:56 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
By using the same tactics as their oppressors. Turning the tables and using wrongdoing agaist the wrongdoers.

Not really Ezra, it's about compassion for the oppressed


In other words the end justifies the means.


Then just how would you right wrongs and injustices? Or would you?

Can't wait for the reply