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08 Feb 2018, 9:56 pm
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
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Even though the United States has had military parades in the past, in this day and age it carries with it the implication of a totalitarian state in which the armed services are the personal play thing of the Great or Dear Leader.
That's the role the United States plays isn't it? Guardian and enforcer of the world.
As a country and government we've taken on the mantle of responsibility for taking care of things internationally - with mixed results. But the President is an elected office holder constrained by checks and balances, and thanks to term limits, once his term in office is done with, he is no longer in command. That's hardly a strongman dictator who makes use of his country and army as personal play things. Trump either doesn't understand this concept, or it appears he purposely wants to change it.
It's not like he's asking for a military parade to celebrate his birthday.
He doesn't have to. He'd still be showing the world that American military might is his to command.
It is, he's the commander in chief.
But I believe it's obvious that he was impressed with France's military parade and thought the US should have their own military parade on Independence day. End of story, sans mega melodrama.
That would be fine and dandy if it was just the French. But it's more so a practice in totalitarian states. Even plenty of Republicans are disturbed by this.
Yeah but he didn't come up with the idea until he watched the one in France. So why does France have one? Is it a totalitarian thing? Sometimes a parade is just a parade.
As one of German extraction, I could say something about the French, but I won't.
09 Feb 2018, 3:15 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Even though the United States has had military parades in the past, in this day and age it carries with it the implication of a totalitarian state in which the armed services are the personal play thing of the Great or Dear Leader.
That's the role the United States plays isn't it? Guardian and enforcer of the world.
As a country and government we've taken on the mantle of responsibility for taking care of things internationally - with mixed results. But the President is an elected office holder constrained by checks and balances, and thanks to term limits, once his term in office is done with, he is no longer in command. That's hardly a strongman dictator who makes use of his country and army as personal play things. Trump either doesn't understand this concept, or it appears he purposely wants to change it.
It's not like he's asking for a military parade to celebrate his birthday.
He doesn't have to. He'd still be showing the world that American military might is his to command.
It is, he's the commander in chief.
But I believe it's obvious that he was impressed with France's military parade and thought the US should have their own military parade on Independence day. End of story, sans mega melodrama.
That would be fine and dandy if it was just the French. But it's more so a practice in totalitarian states. Even plenty of Republicans are disturbed by this.
Yeah but he didn't come up with the idea until he watched the one in France. So why does France have one? Is it a totalitarian thing? Sometimes a parade is just a parade.
As one of German extraction, I could say something about the French, but I won't.
That didn't answer my question.
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Even IF his intentions are pure and he wants to honour the military and America's global might and all that, stoke a little national patriotism blah blah.. I guarantee that Trump being who he is by reputation, the the international perception of this entire debacle will be that the entire thing is one giant ego stroke for Trumpkind - which is pretty terrible optics for the USA, it's leadership, military, citizens and the whole 9.
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09 Feb 2018, 4:25 am
EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Even IF his intentions are pure and he wants to honour the military and America's global might and all that, stoke a little national patriotism blah blah.. I guarantee that Trump being who he is by reputation, the the international perception of this entire debacle will be that the entire thing is one giant ego stroke for Trumpkind - which is pretty terrible optics for the USA, it's leadership, military, citizens and the whole 9.
I think that says more about overly hyperbolic anti-trumpism, than trump himself. Virtually everything he does is a negitive one way or another from that perspective.
Because he is who he is and most of the world despises him.
It's not as if he's just a little rough around the edges with his personality. He says and does terrible things. People are completely justified in not respecting him.
You almost seem blind to his track record of everything as if there's no reason MOST of the world can't stand the guy.
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