Does not having a facebook acoount make me an outsider?

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18 Mar 2013, 3:21 am

I have no fb account because I don´t need one in general But it seems like it is important to have one to know everything what is going on at school. For example one course has a fb group. They write about relevant things there and I am always the last person who gets the information because someone has to send an email to me.
But I don´t want to have an account.

Does anyone have similar problems? What are you doing?


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18 Mar 2013, 5:39 am

I don't have facebook and I don't want it. I believe it's anti social because people are being lazy and not communicating effectively. A lot of people ramble on about their boring day or give crap information. If I want to look at something someone is selling I use my sisters account but otherwise I don't socialize on it. I'd rather talk to a person face to face (even though it's hard for me).

People need to understand it's not the only way to communicate and need to respect other peoples way of communicating.


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18 Mar 2013, 5:47 am

I guess I would wanna ask why you don't want an account? I didn't want one at first because I just didn't see the point. I saw it as being a device for people to make themselves feel important and have an audience which I thought that was stupid. :roll:

I didn't want to live like that. I did end up starting one though because I live in England and my family is in the US, so it was just a convenient way of keeping up with the daily details and sharing photos. At the same time it is also used as a political and religious plat form by some and yes I think it makes us compete a little with what we are up to. I find it both annoying and important for maintaining contact. You could try it and quit later if you didn't like it.



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18 Mar 2013, 6:52 am

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I guess I would wanna ask why you don't want an account? I didn't want one at first because I just didn't see the point. I saw it as being a device for people to make themselves feel important and have an audience which I thought that was stupid. :roll:
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yes I think it makes us compete a little with what we are up to. I find it both annoying and important for maintaining contact. You could try it and quit later if you didn't like it.


My reasons are the same as yours. I really don´t see the point and think it´s stupid because there are many other possibilities to communicate. But -whyever- people think it is VERY important to post whatever on fb and they don´t register that there are these other things like email.
I think I don´t want to try to have an account until there is no other way to keep contact to others. By the way, my school time is over in a few months and then I hope that I am out of this problem.


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18 Mar 2013, 8:44 am

Nightingale121 wrote:
I think I don´t want to try to have an account until there is no other way to keep contact to others. By the way, my school time is over in a few months and then I hope that I am out of this problem.

The only reason there would be no other way to keep contact with others would be because of caving in to what Facebook users want (more people using it to communicate). A true friend would not be controlling the friendship by restricting communication to Facebook. People who care are thoughtful; not self-centered.

Facebook users probably think non-users are selfish by not creating an FB account. Just because something is popular doesn't make it worth following. Each individual has a right and a responsibility to research things out for himself and be allowed to stand for what he believes in. If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything. Facebook knows this and knows how to take advantage of people who lack standards for integrity.


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18 Mar 2013, 9:35 am

You can temporarily deactivate your FB account for awhile if you get tired of it. You'll still be visible only to people on your friend-list although you won't have a profile photo. And they can't view your FB page again until you decide to reactivate it.



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18 Mar 2013, 10:08 am

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My reasons are the same as yours. I really don´t see the point and think it´s stupid because there are many other possibilities to communicate. But -whyever- people think it is VERY important to post whatever on fb and they don´t register that there are these other things like email.


I think you meant to say, "whatever".

To answer your question, I have no Facebook account, nor do I have an interest in getting one. I want to have as much privacy as possible - I would rather not have a million people that I have never met staring at me - metaphorically speaking. And I don't want to be one of those people who sit in front of a computer screen all day and have no real lives. In my opinion, people are starting to turn into cyborgs. And last of all, I am not a social person to begin with, and the idea of social messaging doesn't appeal to me at all.



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18 Mar 2013, 10:22 am

In that case, I'm an outsider too then.



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18 Mar 2013, 12:50 pm

I have a Facebook account, but I rarely use it. I mostly use it for communicating with my rugby team through our Facebook group.


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18 Mar 2013, 1:20 pm

it's seems like somekind of RSS subscription could be setup to "follow" the discussion by having it automatically forward things to your email.



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19 Mar 2013, 11:26 am

Nightingale121 wrote:
I have no fb account because I don´t need one in general But it seems like it is important to have one to know everything what is going on at school. For example one course has a fb group. They write about relevant things there and I am always the last person who gets the information because someone has to send an email to me. But I don´t want to have an account.

Does anyone have similar problems? What are you doing?


Do not feel bad. You aren't alone here. There are more of us. Facebook is a tool, and like many tools it can be utilized for multiple purposes. I don't use Facebook either. It has been this way for many years and shall continue.

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To answer your question, I have no Facebook account, nor do I have an interest in getting one. I want to have as much privacy as possible - I would rather not have a million people that I have never met staring at me - metaphorically speaking. And I don't want to be one of those people who sit in front of a computer screen all day and have no real lives.


Privacy is so very important. I have not used Facebook in many years and my account is inactive. It is highly unlikely I will ever reactivate it. There are some benefits to using Facebook for maintaining contacts like many others have stated in this post. There are also so many alternative ways for people and friends to keep in contact which I also support and advocate, and such alternative forms of communication were also revealed and discussed by others in this post as well. They don't have to use Facebook as the exclusive form of communication. I refuse to use Facebook for many reasons. Mainly, because of paranoia which I have struggled with all my life. I am very much aware that the information that Facebook users volunteer is tracked, documented, and archived. Many people might not care about this and that is fine. It's their choice. Many would state that no matter where you are on the internet there will never be privacy, and this is so very true. (There is far too much on this topic alone and I'd rather not digress) With privacy, it comes down to the extent and degree of which information is given out. It also comes down to the service and platform by which the information is conveyed as some are specifically structured purely to collect and present information (social networks, etc.). Sure, users can control and manage who sees what and gets what information, but in the end it matters not. Controlling what "Facebook friends", and what outsiders can see is merely one portion of the privacy issue. Privacy filters, rules, and settings don't mean much because everything is on their servers and elsewhere, and they basically own your/their information and you. I value my privacy, and for the most part, only a very select few people who I have met and known throughout my journey in this present lifetime are granted greater in-depth details about my life. I like to keep it that way.

My social circle is complete free of social networks and my inner circle is pure. I keep it that way for the best of reasons. It is imperative.

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In my opinion, people are starting to turn into cyborgs. And last of all, I am not a social person to begin with, and the idea of social messaging doesn't appeal to me at all.


You are not far off with your statement Dragoness. You mentioned cyborgs in relation to Facebook and possibly through other technological means. I suppose it can be considered a sort of preview of Transhumanism at its best/worst. Haha. People will feed the process and it will consume them. Technology is not everything. It is highly useful, but a balance is also so very important to implement and to observe.

This WP post about Facebook reminded me of an old game called "Lemmings". Follow the leader. Follow society and stick to the norm, don't deviate, but participate. See where it leads to.... It's unfortunate that to a massive degree, Facebook dominates communication (users choose to communicate only with Facebook, etc) as so many have frustratingly revealed. The concept and reality of the follower is one which is so prevalent today. This is a concept which also largely applies to many avenues and aspects of life. Both past and present.

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Once more, I would like to clarify here that using Facebook and other social networks is not entirely bad or negative, but it can be detrimental in certain cases. While there is no denying it is a wonderful tool for communication and networking, it has its drawbacks and consequences as well. I won't use it. I have my reasons. We all have choices. We are still free to make them.



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19 Mar 2013, 1:01 pm

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Privacy is so very important. I have not used Facebook in many years and my account is inactive. It is highly unlikely I will ever reactivate it. There are some benefits to using Facebook for maintaining contacts like many others have stated in this post. There are also so many alternative ways for people and friends to keep in contact which I also support and advocate, and such alternative forms of communication were also revealed and discussed by others in this post as well. They don't have to use Facebook as the exclusive form of communication. I refuse to use Facebook for many reasons. Mainly, because of paranoia which I have struggled with all my life. I am very much aware that the information that Facebook users volunteer is tracked, documented, and archived. Many people might not care about this and that is fine. It's their choice. Many would state that no matter where you are on the internet there will never be privacy, and this is so very true. (There is far too much on this topic alone and I'd rather not digress) With privacy, it comes down to the extent and degree of which information is given out. It also comes down to the service and platform by which the information is conveyed as some are specifically structured purely to collect and present information (social networks, etc.). Sure, users can control and manage who sees what and gets what information, but in the end it matters not. Controlling what "Facebook friends", and what outsiders can see is merely one portion of the privacy issue. Privacy filters, rules, and settings don't mean much because everything is on their servers and elsewhere, and they basically own your/their information and you. I value my privacy, and for the most part, only a very select few people who I have met and known throughout my journey in this present lifetime are granted greater in-depth details about my life. I like to keep it that way.



Here's an interesting article that was on CNN.com the other day about how the internet is a surveillance state, and our internet activity is constantly being tracked by various sources. Reading things like this makes me even more glad that I don't view porn like an idiot. lol

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/16/opinion/s ... ?hpt=hp_c1



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23 Mar 2013, 12:07 am

I used to have Facebook, but then people started criticising me for posting "negative" things, with this one guy in particular. He offended some of my friends and he offended my values, attitudes, and choices, which I was open about on FB. I also posted negative things along with positive things because my life is not all positive and I wanted my Facebook profile to be a true reflection of my life because I believe in being as truthful as possible. Plus, people often unfriended me without even letting me know why they did it, and it made me so anxious that it got to the point that I kept checking every hour whether someone unfriended me or not, and if so, I messaged them and asked them why they did it.

I guess if I ever achieve a perfect, flawless life where everyone will love and admire me (the kind of life you're supposed to have on Facebook), then I will get an account there again. I am not okay with doing something that is false and misrepresentative of me while it's under my name and has pieces of me scattered all over it. While I am generally okay with criticisms, I am not okay when people tell me to abandon my logical, complex, and truthfulness-oriented beliefs and ways of behaving in order to succumb to more conformist ideas that are not so logical and thoroughness/truthfulness-based.


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24 Mar 2013, 3:34 am

Dragoness wrote:
Nightingale121 wrote:
My reasons are the same as yours. I really don´t see the point and think it´s stupid because there are many other possibilities to communicate. But -whyever- people think it is VERY important to post whatever on fb and they don´t register that there are these other things like email.


I think you meant to say, "whatever".

To answer your question, I have no Facebook account, nor do I have an interest in getting one. I want to have as much privacy as possible - I would rather not have a million people that I have never met staring at me - metaphorically speaking. And I don't want to be one of those people who sit in front of a computer screen all day and have no real lives. In my opinion, people are starting to turn into cyborgs. And last of all, I am not a social person to begin with, and the idea of social messaging doesn't appeal to me at all.


I researched in a dictionary and found out that my word is right to say what I want to say. It is the same like "for whatever reason". This is what I wanted to say.

Yes, privacy is important for me, too and I also don´t need all this social messaging.


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24 Mar 2013, 11:09 am

Nightingale121 wrote:
Dragoness wrote:
Nightingale121 wrote:
My reasons are the same as yours. I really don´t see the point and think it´s stupid because there are many other possibilities to communicate. But -whyever- people think it is VERY important to post whatever on fb and they don´t register that there are these other things like email.


I think you meant to say, "whatever".

To answer your question, I have no Facebook account, nor do I have an interest in getting one. I want to have as much privacy as possible - I would rather not have a million people that I have never met staring at me - metaphorically speaking. And I don't want to be one of those people who sit in front of a computer screen all day and have no real lives. In my opinion, people are starting to turn into cyborgs. And last of all, I am not a social person to begin with, and the idea of social messaging doesn't appeal to me at all.


I researched in a dictionary and found out that my word is right to say what I want to say. It is the same like "for whatever reason". This is what I wanted to say.

Yes, privacy is important for me, too and I also don´t need all this social messaging.


Well, I don't see "whyever" in my dictionary, and I have never seen that word before, so I don't know.



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27 Mar 2013, 6:42 pm

I had a facebook, but I never used it. I mostly was on there for the games and stuff, but they were all just so boring. Not to mention that I never really talked to any one on there and half the people who wanted to friend me were people I don't talk to on a regular basis anyways. At this point I just use Skype instead. Way easier, plus it has an option to use the webcam.