Dad Died, and I Don't Miss Him At All
This may have nothing to do with Autism, but I don't know.
My dad died a couple months ago, and the time since has been "wonderful" by comparison to when he was alive. I think I should feel horrible about feeling this way, but I don't...except I do feel conflicted by the lack of compassion.
Dad and I were never "close." We were different people. We never had the father/son relationship that I would have liked. I know he tried to do his best, and a lot of "bad" things he did were done with good intentions. No matter what, he was there for me when he could have done like some and written me off at 18 when he was no longer legally obligated to support me.
Years ago, I realized I had to either cut him out of my life entirely or accept him for who he was and not expect him to be the "ideal" father. I chose to accept him as he was.
In the later years, after a stroke left him somewhat disabled, his dour mood over his loss of independence made him more grumpy and miserable to be around than before. Sometimes he said hateful things with no thought of who would hear it. Several times he said words to the effect of, "If I had to do it again, I would never have gotten married and had kids." Mom and dad had stuck it out for just over 50 years when he died.
His demise was somewhat expected, so there was no sadness or grieving when he passed. If anything I was wondering when it was finally going to happen, that trip to the ER where he didn't make it home.
Still, I feel I should miss him, and I don't.
I sometimes think about visiting his grave and saying, "I'm sorry I was such a disappointment to you as a son," or asking, "Why wasn't I good enough the way I was made?" I know he had high expectations and hopes for my sister and I, and we both fell way short, but that he frequently wished that we never existed. Those words may not have reflected how he felt ALL the time, but it was something he harbored within...the regret that marriage and family was a mistake...not a blessing.
Love isn't a feeling...it's a choice. I chose to love him and stay by him no matter how ugly it got (and it was near the breaking point at the end). Still, I wish I could say I felt "love" for him...but I don't, and it seems wrong.
Two years ago my precious lil "mom" got a stroke. Coma six months. Dropped dead
At her funeral. Eulogy made her sound perfect. Like an angel
What they said was not factually incorrect. But grossly incomplete.
Nobody talked about how she had the nerve to ask me "why did you cut your hair?". Because at that time she was homophobic. (Later she came around)
Nobody said she compared me unfavorably to other children and made me feel morally inferior
But whatever
It was a eulogy
"Eu" as in good
Not a court trial
And court trials could be biased too. Judges and juries have their own biases. It matters who the lawyer is. Rich defendants can afford expensive lawyers
It was not a PubMed controlled experiment
To her credit she did not physically or sexually abuse me. And she worked full time. Did not do drugs, go to jail etc.
And she sent my sister and me to undergraduate college.
And she went from not having a GED when she was 35 to getting a BA age. 50
That was all correct
But what about the bad and the ugly ?
She blamed me for school bullying
She had the nerve to tell me that she would strike me for dropping a banana
She told me off, enthusiastically, numerous times. For my then undiagnosed autism symptoms
And failure to attend to a special education need is a Child Protective services violation
My dad died seven years ago, after a long period of gradually worsening health, so we always knew it was coming.
I didn't feel any sense of loss at the time, probably for similar reasons, i.e. that we knew it was coming and that caring for him was taxing especially on my mum. The first I knew of it was my mum coming in to tell me while I was laying in bed on a lazy summer day, and my reaction was along the lines of "oh" followed by a long solemn silence.
Over the next few days before we'd even sorted the funeral arrangements I was rearranging things in the house in ways that I knew I'd be able to do once he was no longer here, without even thinking about it - he often said things along the lines of "you can do what you like when I'm gone" and maybe I took that a bit too literally. Feeling bad about doing that in a hurry came later.
As the years have passed since it's changed to a more, respectful feeling I suppose, there are a few photos of him dotted around the house walls and I always smile when I see them now, and think of the happy moments from before his health deteriorated. So I feel I've made up for my initial (lack of) feelings by now and no longer feel bad about it.
TL;DR if your experience is anything like mine, you might not feel anything to start with and you might feel bad about that, but you should feel gradually better and more relaxed about it as time goes on.
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My belief is that whatever a person is feeling or not feeling, it is what it is, and it's right for them.
Nobody has the right to second-guess their reaction or lack thereof, or make them feel they should be feeling something else -- whether that be to feel more, to feel less, or to feel nothing.
What and who you are, and what you find yourself experiencing about anything at all in life, belongs to you, and is nobody's business but yours.
The only requirement is to try to maintain respect for others who may be different.
My dad died a couple months ago, and the time since has been "wonderful" by comparison to when he was alive. I think I should feel horrible about feeling this way, but I don't...except I do feel conflicted by the lack of compassion.
Dad and I were never "close." We were different people. We never had the father/son relationship that I would have liked. I know he tried to do his best, and a lot of "bad" things he did were done with good intentions. No matter what, he was there for me when he could have done like some and written me off at 18 when he was no longer legally obligated to support me.
Years ago, I realized I had to either cut him out of my life entirely or accept him for who he was and not expect him to be the "ideal" father. I chose to accept him as he was.
In the later years, after a stroke left him somewhat disabled, his dour mood over his loss of independence made him more grumpy and miserable to be around than before. Sometimes he said hateful things with no thought of who would hear it. Several times he said words to the effect of, "If I had to do it again, I would never have gotten married and had kids." Mom and dad had stuck it out for just over 50 years when he died.
His demise was somewhat expected, so there was no sadness or grieving when he passed. If anything I was wondering when it was finally going to happen, that trip to the ER where he didn't make it home.
Still, I feel I should miss him, and I don't.
I sometimes think about visiting his grave and saying, "I'm sorry I was such a disappointment to you as a son," or asking, "Why wasn't I good enough the way I was made?" I know he had high expectations and hopes for my sister and I, and we both fell way short, but that he frequently wished that we never existed. Those words may not have reflected how he felt ALL the time, but it was something he harbored within...the regret that marriage and family was a mistake...not a blessing.
Love isn't a feeling...it's a choice. I chose to love him and stay by him no matter how ugly it got (and it was near the breaking point at the end). Still, I wish I could say I felt "love" for him...but I don't, and it seems wrong.
It is normal for parents to feel moments of regret for a life they chose. Parenting is really really difficult and full of sacrificing your own happiness for your kids who usually arent very grateful for it but overall it is an amazingly rewarding experience.
People who do not have children often do the same and wish they did have kids from time to time, but overall are still happy they did not.
Likewise it is also normal for some people not to feel overly upset when a parent dies. Especially if you weren't close and your last memories of him were of him being sick and grumpy.
No reason logically to feel guilty but I understand why you would.
I hated my mother and when she died I didn't even go to her funeral.
Years later I regret that and do miss her from time to time.
shrug
Parental death and the emotions surrounding it are complicated
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Emotional Intelligence Test 85/100
25 on am I highly sensitive
Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 168 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 59 of 200
At her funeral. Eulogy made her sound perfect. Like an angel
What they said was not factually incorrect. But grossly incomplete.
Nobody talked about how she had the nerve to ask me "why did you cut your hair?". Because at that time she was homophobic. (Later she came around)
Nobody said she compared me unfavorably to other children and made me feel morally inferior
But whatever
It was a eulogy
"Eu" as in good
Not a court trial
And court trials could be biased too. Judges and juries have their own biases. It matters who the lawyer is. Rich defendants can afford expensive lawyers
It was not a PubMed controlled experiment
To her credit she did not physically or sexually abuse me. And she worked full time. Did not do drugs, go to jail etc.
And she sent my sister and me to undergraduate college.
And she went from not having a GED when she was 35 to getting a BA age. 50
That was all correct
But what about the bad and the ugly ?
She blamed me for school bullying
She had the nerve to tell me that she would strike me for dropping a banana
She told me off, enthusiastically, numerous times. For my then undiagnosed autism symptoms
And failure to attend to a special education need is a Child Protective services violation
your complaints sound really trivial and you seem like an ungrateful spoiled brat. If you think it's easy to raise autistic kids, get a clue.
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Emotional Intelligence Test 85/100
25 on am I highly sensitive
Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 168 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 59 of 200
My FIL treated my husband about the same way (and frankly treated me like s**t) (and I don't even want to go into how he treated our son).
We also made the choice to do our best to love him.
Not too many tears here, either. A lot of damage to clean up. Not too many tears.
Don't beat yourself up. You feel what you feel; there's nothing wrong with being relieved that a difficult job has come to an end.
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"Alas, our dried voices when we whisper together are quiet and meaningless, as wind in dry grass, or rats' feet over broken glass in our dry cellar." --TS Eliot, "The Hollow Men"
At her funeral. Eulogy made her sound perfect. Like an angel
What they said was not factually incorrect. But grossly incomplete.
Nobody talked about how she had the nerve to ask me "why did you cut your hair?". Because at that time she was homophobic. (Later she came around)
Nobody said she compared me unfavorably to other children and made me feel morally inferior
But whatever
It was a eulogy
"Eu" as in good
Not a court trial
And court trials could be biased too. Judges and juries have their own biases. It matters who the lawyer is. Rich defendants can afford expensive lawyers
It was not a PubMed controlled experiment
To her credit she did not physically or sexually abuse me. And she worked full time. Did not do drugs, go to jail etc.
And she sent my sister and me to undergraduate college.
And she went from not having a GED when she was 35 to getting a BA age. 50
That was all correct
But what about the bad and the ugly ?
She blamed me for school bullying
She had the nerve to tell me that she would strike me for dropping a banana
She told me off, enthusiastically, numerous times. For my then undiagnosed autism symptoms
And failure to attend to a special education need is a Child Protective services violation
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your complaints sound really trivial and you seem like an ungrateful spoiled brat. If you think it's easy to raise autistic kids, get a clue.
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There is no absolute, objective, inherently correct method of measuring the size of a complaint. The complaints might sound "really trivial" to you and some other allegedly neutral third parties. Some other allegedly neutral third parties took my side.
In any event, you can think what you want.
You were not there.
Nobody is perfect
Everyone has biases
Besides, I am just a stranger on the internet to you
To you I might seem like an "ungrateful spoiled brat", but that is vague and subjective. Not everyone shares that viewpoint
My precious lil "mom" did not send me to get an autism diagnosis when I was under 18. That is called "failure to attend to a special education need". That is a Child Protective services violation. that. Is. Not.. subjective or vague.
But whatever
Who cares about me?
Answer:. Not her
Nobody cares about me, OK?
But nothing matters now
She's already dead
The damage that she caused me is immediate, permanent, and profound
But whatever
The other thing is that I know that I am not explaining the situation completely or well enough
But whatever
At this point,its too late to do anything amyways
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