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22 Nov 2017, 9:17 pm

Once you're admitted, you pretty much lose all your rights.


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22 Nov 2017, 9:44 pm

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Here, you need to have concrete plans, or have been violent towards yourself or others.
Otherwise you'll be treated as an outpatient. (I've done this)
If you're in America, I've heard they admit you for anything.


Would self-harm count as being violent to myself, or does it have to be with the intent of dying? I'm in the US, but I think the rules are the same, or at least similar, for when they have to admit you. Outpatient treatment sounds a lot better. I'm just not sure I can keep trusting myself in a position where I have easy access to things I can use to cut myself. It's always been only a matter of time until I give in to these urges.


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22 Nov 2017, 9:52 pm

I really don't want to be admitted for this, but I also don't want to do serious harm to myself unless I'm sure I want to die right that instant.


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22 Nov 2017, 10:21 pm

dragonsanddemons wrote:
Raleigh wrote:
Here, you need to have concrete plans, or have been violent towards yourself or others.
Otherwise you'll be treated as an outpatient. (I've done this)
If you're in America, I've heard they admit you for anything.


Would self-harm count as being violent to myself, or does it have to be with the intent of dying? I'm in the US, but I think the rules are the same, or at least similar, for when they have to admit you. Outpatient treatment sounds a lot better. I'm just not sure I can keep trusting myself in a position where I have easy access to things I can use to cut myself. It's always been only a matter of time until I give in to these urges.

Violence is more like stabbing yourself or raking your arms across a wire fence.
Methodically cutting yourself isn't seen as all that violent, oddly.


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22 Nov 2017, 10:25 pm

My outpatient visits were for cutting myself with scalpels.
i stabbed myself four times in the forearm too but didn't tell anyone because I probably would have been admitted for that.


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22 Nov 2017, 10:31 pm

Raleigh wrote:
Violence is more like stabbing yourself or raking your arms across a wire fence.
Methodically cutting yourself isn't seen as all that violent, oddly.


So I should be able to discuss it with my psychiatrist without fear of being hospitalized whether I want to be or not? That's reassuring. I was debating whether I should tell him the extent of it if I wasn't sure I was ready to accept that possibility.


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22 Nov 2017, 11:33 pm

^ well, idk, systems could be different, but that's what I found.
Also, the questions when you go in kind of indicate what they consider serious.
They have a set of questions.
One of them was "are you hearing things that aren't there?" and I answered yes for that one because of Aspie literalness. :lol:
They still didn't admit me.


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22 Nov 2017, 11:41 pm

Sorry for the hijack, you all can have your thread back now :oops:


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23 Nov 2017, 12:42 am

I don't think it's possible to hijack this thread.
Anyways I had self ham issues and got CBT for it.
I've also been diagnosed with mild schizophrenia because I hear voices. They don't really say anything. Just like one or more people talking in the distance. I haven't been put in the psyche ward for any of it so far.



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23 Nov 2017, 12:48 am

Thanksgiving aboard the Enterprise:


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23 Nov 2017, 12:49 am

Staying out of the psych ward is to be desired, at least where I am.
Ours is horrible.
The nurse told me not to ask to be admitted.


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23 Nov 2017, 12:55 am

Raleigh wrote:
Staying out of the psych ward is to be desired, at least where I am.
Ours is horrible.
The nurse told me not to ask to be admitted.


Yeah, I've seen only bad things about any of the places by me that treat adults with my issues. I just don't want to end up doing something I'll deeply regret later (or not be around to regret). That's why I'm conflicted about it.


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23 Nov 2017, 1:05 am

So the nurse gave me a Valium and then I forgot my own name, which was handy when I went to the MHU.

I'm rambling now.


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23 Nov 2017, 1:08 am

Sometimes I get all chatty.
I have a low, then a high.
The high is like I'm on speed.
The low is like just kill me now.


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23 Nov 2017, 1:13 am

Raleigh wrote:
Sometimes I get all chatty.
I have a low, then a high.
The high is like I'm on speed.
The low is like just kill me now.


That happens to me sometimes too.


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23 Nov 2017, 2:08 am

It's the tumbleweed zone of WP.


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