Old names for autism/diagnosis? (pre-20th c)

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30 Dec 2014, 3:49 am

I remember there was someone who said there was a disorder in the 18th or 19th centuries which was very similar in its' traits to autism. Do you know what it was?

Also, I remember there was a Soviet researcher who also diagnosed something skin to Autism sometimes in 20th C. Anyone remember the person's name (person was apparently female, and ethnically Russian)


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30 Dec 2014, 10:32 am

You should research the case of Hugh Blair of Borgue (or Borque), who was a Scottish nobleman in the 18th century.

There were some autistic people who were called "idiot savants" before the 20th century.

There was the case of the famous French "wild boy," who was written about by a guy named Itard.

You should Google "pre-20th Century autism." A few cases will reveal themselves.



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31 Dec 2014, 4:08 am

In the late 19th through early 20th century idiocy Mental deficiency was a broad diagnostic category. Sub categories were imbecility, moron, and feeble_minded which was the highest functioning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feeble-minded


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01 Jan 2015, 11:22 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
In the late 19th through early 20th century idiocy Mental deficiency was a broad diagnostic category. Sub categories were imbecility, moron, and feeble_minded which was the highest functioning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feeble-minded


I heard of that, but wasnt there an obscure diagnosis which could have been intrepreted to have been autism? I remember vaguely hearing of it on this forums years ago.


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01 Jan 2015, 11:44 pm

Warsie wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
In the late 19th through early 20th century idiocy Mental deficiency was a broad diagnostic category. Sub categories were imbecility, moron, and feeble_minded which was the highest functioning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feeble-minded


I heard of that, but wasnt there an obscure diagnosis which could have been intrepreted to have been autism? I remember vaguely hearing of it on this forums years ago.


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13 Jan 2015, 12:51 am

slave wrote:
Warsie wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
In the late 19th through early 20th century idiocy Mental deficiency was a broad diagnostic category. Sub categories were imbecility, moron, and feeble_minded which was the highest functioning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feeble-minded


I heard of that, but wasnt there an obscure diagnosis which could have been intrepreted to have been autism? I remember vaguely hearing of it on this forums years ago.


your avatar dries me NUTS!!
the movement....argggh

nothing personal


avatar changed.


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13 Jan 2015, 1:32 am

Part of what you're asking about does exist.

I have heard about someone who discovered "asperger's" syndrome years before Hans Asperger. It was a Soviet woman scientist ( maybe in the late Twenties?) who described a condition among children that was virtually identical to what Asperger described in Austria years later.

But sorry- don't recall her name.

Folks were talking about it here on WP some years ago.



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13 Jan 2015, 3:18 am

naturalplastic wrote:
Part of what you're asking about does exist.

I have heard about someone who discovered "asperger's" syndrome years before Hans Asperger. It was a Soviet woman scientist ( maybe in the late Twenties?) who described a condition among children that was virtually identical to what Asperger described in Austria years later.

But sorry- don't recall her name.

Folks were talking about it here on WP some years ago.


I keep thinking its Savichea, but thats the last name of the girl killed in the Siege of Leningrad. I remember hearing of that.


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14 Jan 2015, 6:06 pm

Grunya Sukhareva (Груня Ефимовна Сухарева) 1926

Ssucharewa G. E. (1926). "Die schizoiden Psychopathien im Kindesalter". Monatsschrift für Psychiatrie und Neurologie 60: 235–261.



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14 Jan 2015, 8:42 pm

Please tell us, if you wouldn't mind, how we could get access to the articles you mentioned.



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14 Jan 2015, 11:38 pm

I'd also be interested in seeing those articles.


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