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13 Aug 2017, 10:33 am

When is it appropriate to get an Autism Driver's license? My cousin who is a social worker recommended I request a driver's license that says I'm language impaired. For the most part I am not very severe. Of course I do tend to crack in stressful situations. But mostly I've been pretty good with handling officers and making sure situations don't escalate. I am from Texas and I use my southern charm to appease them by flaunting the words they love such as "Yes sir." and "Yes ma'am." "I apologize officer it won't happen again. I promise!"

But I was wrongfully put in handcuffs once when I was leaving walmart one of the secret shoppers accused me of stealing but I stole nothing and he tried to take my purse and I got scared and started screaming at him believing he was a random stranger trying to mug me. And they wouldn't let me leave the store and I had a complete melt down and the officer put me in cuffs so tight that my hands blistered.

That is one experience that still haunts me to this day. I don't even like to talk about it. Is it only appropriate to ask for an Autism Driver's license if you are very severe on the scale? I would like to know.

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13 Aug 2017, 11:03 am

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13 Aug 2017, 11:47 am

For me...

If I am REALLY REALLY out about my ASD, what the hell, can't hurt. This means everyone knows you are autistic.

My problem with the card, is drivers' licenses are used as photo ID to get jobs, to sign your kids out of school...I wind up showing mine alot. I assume language impaired is displayed fairly large on the license.

I would not want everyone and the dog asking about what the language impaired means. It's one thing to have had a stroke, and your face is half paralyzed. The disability shows.

I guess it's up to you if you don't mind explaining the card to random people, and dealing with the questions.

ETA: about your store aituation. I doubt the card would have mattered in you initial getting manhandle. It might have matter if the cop looked in your wallet for ID. It's a step above the printed out cards stating you have Autism, because anyone can print those out. At least the DL is considered an official document.



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13 Aug 2017, 12:24 pm

Tawaki wrote:
For me...

If I am REALLY REALLY out about my ASD, what the hell, can't hurt. This means everyone knows you are autistic.

My problem with the card, is drivers' licenses are used as photo ID to get jobs, to sign your kids out of school...I wind up showing mine alot. I assume language impaired is displayed fairly large on the license.

I would not want everyone and the dog asking about what the language impaired means. It's one thing to have had a stroke, and your face is half paralyzed. The disability shows.

I guess it's up to you if you don't mind explaining the card to random people, and dealing with the questions.

ETA: about your store aituation. I doubt the card would have mattered in you initial getting manhandle. It might have matter if the cop looked in your wallet for ID. It's a step above the printed out cards stating you have Autism, because anyone can print those out. At least the DL is considered an official document.


Thanks for replying the situations you mentioned are good situations to consider. It is on the back of the card and it's doesn't stand out. I edited my first comment to show what it would look like on a Texas driver's license.

The cop did card me first. But yes with the growing number of police brutalities you make a solid point. Police often act before thinking and worry about the consequences later. I suppose I'll have to weigh the pros and cons.


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13 Aug 2017, 12:54 pm

Tawaki wrote:
For me...

If I am REALLY REALLY out about my ASD, what the hell, can't hurt. This means everyone knows you are autistic.

My problem with the card, is drivers' licenses are used as photo ID to get jobs, to sign your kids out of school...I wind up showing mine alot. I assume language impaired is displayed fairly large on the license.

I would not want everyone and the dog asking about what the language impaired means. It's one thing to have had a stroke, and your face is half paralyzed. The disability shows.

I guess it's up to you if you don't mind explaining the card to random people, and dealing with the questions.

ETA: about your store aituation. I doubt the card would have mattered in you initial getting manhandle. It might have matter if the cop looked in your wallet for ID. It's a step above the printed out cards stating you have Autism, because anyone can print those out. At least the DL is considered an official document.


"My ASD"? Was this posted by your husband?


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13 Aug 2017, 1:01 pm

I don't know about the driver's license, but you can get wallet cards or emergency info on your phone lock screen that specifies your autism difficulties and lets emergency personnel know why you may be screaming your head off or else completely unresponsive. I go this route, in case of shutdown. Couple that with a medical alert wristband and people would have to be stupid not to understand there is a legitimate reason for your behaviour.


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13 Aug 2017, 1:42 pm

Thanks everyone for your responses. I've ultimately chosen not to pursue this unless a doctor recommends it. I spoke with my sister who has a very level head about most things and she recommended against it unless it's absolutely necessary. She said that she felt I handled situations with police officers well and unless something develops to simply leave it be.


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13 Aug 2017, 1:45 pm

I have never had anything noted on my license but I have kept a note from my doctor in my glove box. It has NEVER helped me and each time the officer accuses me of forging the note from the doctor. I get arrested and I ask that they make a copy of the note to put in their report so when my court day comes the judge can see it too. They have never done this probably because they believe I am lying. I try to explain as the roadside what is going on but the cop never wants to understand.

This all happens because they believe I am drinking and driving. They don't think I can keep my balance or make contact like I should. But the note covers all that I have real neurological issues besides the autism. When I brought my own copy to court the state's lawyer argued that I am clearly unfit to drive. I am admitting a disability myself and obviously I was behaving in a way that alerting a police officer who is trained to look for unsafe drivers. The fact that I did pass the tests everyone has to in order to drive means nothing.

Like many other areas it's best not to say anything about autism. Also I am in America so our police in general are often not very understanding and a drunk driving charge does not require more then their opinion it is occurring. Yes, in theory there are blood tests and things like that but I passed all those and the court still tried to charge me.

I wonder if a European officer would listen more as long as I was not speeding and did not smell like beer or something like that.



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13 Aug 2017, 3:28 pm

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I have never had anything noted on my license but I have kept a note from my doctor in my glove box. It has NEVER helped me and each time the officer accuses me of forging the note from the doctor. I get arrested and I ask that they make a copy of the note to put in their report so when my court day comes the judge can see it too. They have never done this probably because they believe I am lying. I try to explain as the roadside what is going on but the cop never wants to understand.

This all happens because they believe I am drinking and driving. They don't think I can keep my balance or make contact like I should. But the note covers all that I have real neurological issues besides the autism. When I brought my own copy to court the state's lawyer argued that I am clearly unfit to drive. I am admitting a disability myself and obviously I was behaving in a way that alerting a police officer who is trained to look for unsafe drivers. The fact that I did pass the tests everyone has to in order to drive means nothing.

Like many other areas it's best not to say anything about autism. Also I am in America so our police in general are often not very understanding and a drunk driving charge does not require more then their opinion it is occurring. Yes, in theory there are blood tests and things like that but I passed all those and the court still tried to charge me.

I wonder if a European officer would listen more as long as I was not speeding and did not smell like beer or something like that.


That is awful. I'm so sorry you've had to deal with that. It's very unfair that they've accused you of forging it when they had no proof. I have heard that forging is a big issue. It seems it could easily be fixed simply by putting it on notes with textures or watermarks so the police can't argue with you. But that is far beyond our control as citizens.

In your case since you have other issues that affect the way you walk having it on an actual driver's license may actually serve you well since it's more difficult to force the license. My case I think I appear to pass as neurotypical pretty well it may be unnecessary for myself.

If you choose to have it written on your license in Texas you have to specifically ask your doctor for a DL101. You can't just walk into the DMV and tell them you have a disability. They'll take note of it but they won't put it on there. I imagine it varies from state to state.

https://aspergers101.com/drivers-licens ... the-works/


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13 Aug 2017, 3:33 pm

I don't think there is such a thing in New York State.

I'm sorry you had to go through that in Walmart. What's a "secret shopper?"



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13 Aug 2017, 3:36 pm

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I don't think there is such a thing in New York State.

I'm sorry you had to go through that in Walmart. What's a "secret shopper?"


I was wondering that myself :D . Maybe a security guard posed as a shopper? Does that even make sense? I wouldn't think Walmart would have security guards though.


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13 Aug 2017, 3:39 pm

Every big store has security guards, known as "loss prevention specialists" or something like that.



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13 Aug 2017, 3:41 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I don't think there is such a thing in New York State.

I'm sorry you had to go through that in Walmart. What's a "secret shopper?"


It's a walmart employee who is not in uniform who walks around pretending to shop all day. If they "See" someone steal something they stop them before they leave the store. In a few cases they've been known to actually tackle people in the parking lot's if they were stealing something very obviously expensive. Such as a TV ect.


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13 Aug 2017, 3:43 pm

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kraftiekortie wrote:
I don't think there is such a thing in New York State.

I'm sorry you had to go through that in Walmart. What's a "secret shopper?"


It's a walmart employee who is not in uniform who walks around pretending to shop all day. If they "See" someone steal something they stop them before they leave the store. In a few cases they've been known to actually tackle people in the parking lot's if they were stealing something very obviously expensive. Such as a TV ect.


Wow, that's weird! I never knew that happened :D . I'm so sorry about what you went through- that sounds horrible! :(


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13 Aug 2017, 3:44 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Every big store has security guards, known as "loss prevention specialists" or something like that.


"Loss Prevention Specialists" :lol: . Why do they make it sound so fancy?


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13 Aug 2017, 3:45 pm

I sense that Texas, with the possible exception of Austin, is not an especially inviting place for autism. Walmart, too.