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11 Feb 2008, 11:32 pm

So this has got me wondering for awhile now, with chelation, or biomeds and how after all of it, the child is "recovered". but what if autism is genetic, wouldnt that mean even though they recovered that child, what about that childs' children, what are they going to keep recovering, keep spending tons of dollars to recovery every child? If autism is already going to probably pass down, wouldnt you think they would find a way to help that autistic child become as high functioning as they rather then just deleting the whole autism? Just curious im not against biomeds or chelation, whatever anybody wants to do to help their children or themselves for that matter is fine by me, personally i wouldnt do it, but if anybody else, i dont have a problem with it.

Another thing I dont get it, is how are they ever going to find a cure for autism if it genetic, they would have to rewire the chromosomes and who knows other damage it might due to the baby doing that? If they find a way to detect autism in wombs, does anybody realize how many murders will happen? meaning when the brain develops in the womb, the heart is already there as well, meaning thats a life, meaning if you abort it, your killing off one of gods creatures. Now what about all those anti-abortionists, arent they going to go crazy?

What if they do find a cure for autism but only in babies, what about the adults, will things completely change, will ppl treat us even more discriminated, or more ret*d, will there will be any need for autism awareness at all, if its just adults on the earth?

I was always wondering all of that. I asked my autism specialist, if he thinks autism is genetic, and he says probably, after consulting with many doctors, but not totally sure. I honestly dont know, but i do know a lot of it passes down through family to family. So if one family does this, and the next has an autistic and doesnt have the money to do what the other family did, and then has no idea what to do, whats going to happen? Sorry this is probably going to make a huge controversy, but i was wondering what other ppl thought?


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11 Feb 2008, 11:40 pm

those recoveries are fake imo.

and autism is way more complex than say downs syndrome (a 1 chromosome mutation deal)......... i doubt they'll be able to screen for it....... definitely not any time soon.

i'd say we'll destroy the planet b4 that happens


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11 Feb 2008, 11:43 pm

Sedaka wrote:
those recoveries are fake imo.

and autism is way more complex than say downs syndrome (a 1 chromosome mutation deal)......... i doubt they'll be able to screen for it....... definitely not any time soon.

i'd say we'll destroy the planet b4 that happens


Haha, well thats a good way to put it hehe.


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12 Feb 2008, 12:39 am

it's amazing what the ramifications are of a single mutation... as found in downs syndrome...

but with all the dead ends and inconclusive mutational studies for autism.... it at least points to a much bigger puzzle... definitely not a single mutation, or even one chromosome... ( i personally don't think it's due to defective genes per se, anyway)

and while i don't like trying to "justify" abortions by any means... it's one thing to conclusively identify a single mutation and justify prenatal screening due to the (pretty much) guaranteed detrimental effects of DS... it's quite another to try and justify screening for a condition that results in such a variety of cognitive conditions, as found in autism. i'd wager it'd be VERY hard to justify screening for it...

and like i said, i doubt they're gonna get even close to that point any time soon.


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12 Feb 2008, 12:40 am

It works like this: there's a small condition, let's call it Z. Z is genetic and inheritable and only has one symptom. This symptom causes... let's say it causes bad experiences, a collection of bad experiences cause social anxiety and this in turn cause daydreaming.

Z + social anxiety + daydreaming = Asperger syndrome.

Source: I has AS, then i cured myself (i removed the social anxiety and daydreaming, Z is still in me and will pass to my kids and turn them into aspies (unless i come up with a way to avoid this process... or someone else does)).


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12 Feb 2008, 2:08 am

I was just thinking if i should post this on autismspeaks, i wonder what would happen, hmmm


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12 Feb 2008, 2:23 am

Age1600 wrote:
I was just thinking if i should post this on autismspeaks, i wonder what would happen, hmmm


Be careful. Those colostomy bags from Autism Speaks are like the government. They're always watching. 8O


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12 Feb 2008, 7:01 am

GoatOnFire wrote:
Age1600 wrote:
I was just thinking if i should post this on autismspeaks, i wonder what would happen, hmmm


Be careful. Those colostomy bags from Autism Speaks are like the government. They're always watching. 8O


Haha yea, i probably won't.


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12 Feb 2008, 9:22 am

I don't know anything about chelation and things like that, but a lot of things that are associated with ASD's I "cured" myself of before I knew I was autistic: depression, anxiety, lethargy etc. For me diet has made a huge difference. I still have the same mind, it still works the same way, so I still have a lot of problems, but my HEALTH problems are gone.

To me, it seems that the reason why (especially high-functioning) autistic people have a lot of problems in the modern world is not because they are autistic per se but because the modern world is highly toxic and totally irrational. Everyone suffers as a result, but hypersensitive and ultralogical people suffer the most immediate consequences. For everyone else, they don't know it until cancer hits them fifty years down the line.

I guess there are two ways things could go: either they decide to genetically manufacture people rather than allow nature to make its own decisions, in which case all sorts of diversity would be lost, not just autism. Or they shape up and develop a society that's more conducive to people's needs and wellbeing, thereby benefitting everyone, not just autistic people.



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12 Feb 2008, 11:44 am

this is why am do not call self a 'pro curist' despite wanting partial cure for self,and also not being against the idea of full cures for those that want them.
It's too unpredictible to know what will happen.

But,autism awareness is increasing each year [as in to support,and understand,not just to demand cure],if it carries on like this,
by the time any sort of cure is found there should be enough awareness out there for understanding autism in adults and maybe less relieing on full cures [if they happen].


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