How Can Anyone "Be Proud" of being autistic?
I'm proud of my purely logical thinking, photographic memory, and my strategic thinking based from those concepts. I honestly view NT thinking as delusion.
Imagine a world where the rationality, that comes with A.S., existed. Logic would rule and would solve many of the world's know problems. Only an NT would keep making the same errors and starting hopeless conflicts.
You don't need to be proud, but you've got the ability to mend some of the world's horribleness.
Too many big words here. I'm getting a headache just looking at them.
Why would it be rare in Russia? Some people have recently claimed that their President Vlad has Asperger's Syndrome, which, if true (I don't believe it is, by the way), would suggest it is quite common due to the statistical odds against one of these almost non-existent individuals rising to the top. Besides, Russia actually is a "Western culture" - originally settled by Vikings (the "Rus", hence the name Russia), with far closer cultural and historical ties to Europe than Asia.
Don't be so hard on yourself. There are many times when I myself think that my life would have been far better if I had not been "cursed", and wish that if Autism Speaks is sincere about "finding a cure" that they should just get on with it and find one. It's often hard (and horrible) to be this way, that's just the reality of it.
Imagine a world where the rationality, that comes with A.S., existed. Logic would rule and would solve many of the world's know problems. Only an NT would keep making the same errors and starting hopeless conflicts.
You don't need to be proud, but you've got the ability to mend some of the world's horribleness.
Yes, "NT thinking" really is largely delusional, but unfortunately since they are the ones who are in power and make the rules, those of us who value clear-thinking and logic would have to sell our souls and become like one of them in order to get ourselves into a position of influence where we could allow our clear perception and logic to have any measurable effect.
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Too many big words here. I'm getting a headache just looking at them.
Oi ! Stop making « NT-sounding » statements ! Perhaps you would prefer I describe it by writing a few book-volumes instead within my thread-posts instead of compacting the situation into a few precise words as I did ?
Why would it be rare in Russia? Some people have recently claimed that their President Vlad has Asperger's Syndrome, which, if true (I don't believe it is, by the way), would suggest it is quite common due to the statistical odds against one of these almost non-existent individuals rising to the top. Besides, Russia actually is a "Western culture" - originally settled by Vikings (the "Rus", hence the name Russia), with far closer cultural and historical ties to Europe than Asia.
Perhaps a better description is that Russia is more « social » in the sense that people actually talk to each other whilst in America it's full of incredibly anti-social misfits who suspect you of being guilty of anything & every possible thing that they could possibly imagine until you are proven innocent (welcome to POLICE STATE USA).
You are automatically a criminal in the eyes of police if you refuse to fund or make payments into their criminal-racketeering system, you are regarded as a pedophile if you have no social-circles, you are considered to be a potential-threat to their society for even entertaining the idea that those NT's might just be pulling the wool over everyone's eyes in any number of various plots & conspiracies that they're perpetuating, etc. Now for more George Carlin...
Don't be so hard on yourself. There are many times when I myself think that my life would have been far better if I had not been "cursed", and wish that if Autism Speaks is sincere about "finding a cure" that they should just get on with it and find one. It's often hard (and horrible) to be this way, that's just the reality of it.
NT is the real disease as far as I'm concerned. Willful-ignorance (intentional self-stupidity) over-powered. Just look at all of those Eckart Tolle fan-boys who genuinely believe in their « fast-food-spirituality » where they think that by simply believing that « evil doesn't exist » that « evil » (and corruption) would disappear entirely simply because you've indoctrinated & brain-washed your mind into believing that wickèdness doesn't actually exist but is somehow only a mind-created reality. I would say that ALL of the followers of Eckart Tolle & Oprah Winfrey & other « popular » sources are ALL NTs. Now take a good, very close & hard & careful look at that, then tell me that it's not more of « disease » than any so-called autisticism.
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That's the sad truth for many of you. Half of your autistic brothers and sisters will live a life like this because of autism. Yes, even many of you with HFA will live like this. Because you were born different, because you were born with autism. You never could live up to your full potential.
So tell me, how can anyone be proud of being autistic? Because I would cure it if given the opportunity.
The better question would be "how can anyone be proud to be normal?", especially when the 'normal' people are the ones who like to condemn our kind, demonize us, and discard us as being less than human because we're not like them. How can 'normal' people live their lives every day, not feeling ashamed that people just like them are treating someone, somewhere, as less than human?
I can't speak for other people, but to me, my pride in my A.S. comes from knowing that I've lived the rough life, being treated like crap from these 'normal' people, and I've seen the true face of humanity because of it, and because of that I will never be like them.
The question should be "why shouldn't we be proud of who we are?", especially given the alternative. Maybe we're not the ones that are 'broken', the rest of society is what's broken because of how they treat people that are different.
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My guess is that the other negative information out there for autistic people is about the same-misleading. Sure lots of stuff sucks, but it sucks for other people too. There's tons of stuff that doesn't suck, but it doesn't get the same press that negative things get.
Autistic people as a population have a lot of traits that are gifts and can make them superior to other people. Autistic people tend to have better focus, error finding abilities in visual searches, abstract spatial thought, parallel perception, and are more honest than other people. So if you want a "cure" for your autism, you'll have to give up your superior abilities as well.
If anyone wants to do some reading, PM me and I'll email you the studies I got this information from.
Agree 200% ^^
No you're not. You're just asking yourself and us some difficult questions to which there aren't always definite answers. It's part of the process of acquiring vital self-knowledge, something else that people with AS are good at. How many NTs really know themselves? Probably not many.
No, you're not. I actually agree with you. I hate being autistic, and I wish like anything that I were NT. Autism has caused me so much pain, both emotional and physical, and has caused me to be emotionally stunted. Please don't feel like you have to love being autistic, since it's completely valid and okay to dislike it. It's a very difficult disorder to live with.
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"Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal." - Albert Camus
You know, my parents both have a lot of signs of autism (such as sensory sensitivities, emotional over-sensitivity, anxiety issues, and a need for a lot of alone time), yet they both like Eckhart Tolle. What's the point of being so hateful about Tolle, then? Why not just accept that his form of spirituality can help anyone, whether they're NT or autistic? You're honestly coming off as being incredibly arrogant (and rude) right now, just FYI.
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"Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal." - Albert Camus
For me, it's not about pride but rather having no shame.
I think, for a lot of people, autism is something they are ashamed and embarrassed of, however for me I don't see why I should feel ashamed.
I get frustrated, fed up, exhausted, overwhelmed and, yes, even a little sad, but in a way I'm proud that I have overcome so much. Also, if my autism is the one to blame for my intense special interests, attention to detail and strong audio-visual memory, then I wouldn't trade it for anything. But then, I am in the unique position to have recieved early intervention, which many of us are unable to receive, so I do understand why any positive traits pale in comparison to the struggles we face.
But even if I were to say that there is nothing positive about my experience as an autistic person, I would still feel no shame about it because I never chose this and all I can do is my best. If others have a problem with that, they know where the door is.
So as long as you feel no shame, then I'm with you. But if you do, please don't - you have nothing to be ashamed of.
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