So why would anyone want to be bipolar?
well I don't have it though my gp say "anxiety and depression are often 2 sides to the same coin" I imagine from past experiences it allows you to have friends, than when you get down the road of recovery you realise people where not laughing with you but at you. They say comedians are the least happy people of all. Perhaps try comedy if your not able to hold a job
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And what about those people who refuse medical treatment? And they end up killing themselves, either accidentally or deliberately, because they never got the proper treatment for bipolar disorder.
I had a smart-assed remark prepared for that comment, but it would have been inappropriate for this discussion.
If you're the type of person that drops in smart arsed things to say during a serious discussion than I won't take anything you say seriously.
Actually the fact you mentioned 'BIG PHARMA' means I never will take you seriously.
I'm done here.[/quote
here here , the natural medicine "industry" are pure of heart and full of good intentions
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And what about those people who refuse medical treatment? And they end up killing themselves, either accidentally or deliberately, because they never got the proper treatment for bipolar disorder. [/quote]
I had a smart-assed remark prepared for that comment, but it would have been inappropriate for this discussion.
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If you're the type of person that drops in smart arsed things to say during a serious discussion than I won't take anything you say seriously.
Actually the fact you mentioned 'BIG PHARMA' means I never will take you seriously.
I'm done here.[/quote]
here here , the natural medicine "industry" are pure of heart and full of good intentions :roll:[/quote]
Excuse me for having an opinion, as well as living! I'll just keep my fat fscking mouth shut from now on about anything!
I don't think it's a wifes tale aren't they allways unemployed or moving from one ^&*TY job to a other before they "make it"
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Me never did but it's an easy label that covers a lot and a lot of people use their condition to avoid having to deal with their personality issues. Many would prefer to take a pill to make themselves feel better rather than soul searching.
It has been suggested by many medics I am/might bi-polar/manic-depressive but never been diagnosed proper as such because I have always refused a diagnosis that addressed the symptoms rather than the causes.
I asked a psychiatrist once if it were not for my periods would I be considered bi-polar and they had no answer. Time has given me the answer though... being semi-menopausal is great, no more regular deep dark days where the unbearableness of being is almost too much to bear. Roll on future on that level anyway
Me never did but it's an easy label that covers a lot and a lot of people use their condition to avoid having to deal with their personality issues. Many would prefer to take a pill to make themselves feel better rather than soul searching.
It has been suggested by many medics I am/might bi-polar/manic-depressive but never been diagnosed proper as such because I have always refused a diagnosis that addressed the symptoms rather than the causes.
I asked a psychiatrist once if it were not for my periods would I be considered bi-polar and they had no answer. Time has given me the answer though... being semi-menopausal is great, no more regular deep dark days where the unbearableness of being is almost too much to bear. Roll on future on that level anyway
Good points. They are way too quick with that bipolar diagnosis, with it bringing the implication that the mood issues are strictly endogenous.
I'd be less dismissive to this whole gut theory if those people were less dismissive to the real differences going on in the brain of those people with disorders and mental illness.
I'm sure you can both include the gut theory and neurological reason behind the disorders together. Why does it just have to be one or the other?
But isn't the gut theory neurological to start with
A deeper understanding of this mass of neural tissue, filled with important neurotransmitters, is revealing that it does much more than merely handle digestion or inflict the occasional nervous pang. The little brain in our innards, in connection with the big one in our skulls, partly determines our mental state and plays key roles in certain diseases throughout the body.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... cond-brain
Me never did but it's an easy label that covers a lot and a lot of people use their condition to avoid having to deal with their personality issues. Many would prefer to take a pill to make themselves feel better rather than soul searching.
It has been suggested by many medics I am/might bi-polar/manic-depressive but never been diagnosed proper as such because I have always refused a diagnosis that addressed the symptoms rather than the causes.
I asked a psychiatrist once if it were not for my periods would I be considered bi-polar and they had no answer. Time has given me the answer though... being semi-menopausal is great, no more regular deep dark days where the unbearableness of being is almost too much to bear. Roll on future on that level anyway
Dear oh dear not one of those .
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Well, this thread is turning into a "the causes and cures of bipolar disorder" debate. Sigh...
although to be fair, sufferers of Borderline PD are often misdiagnosed as bipolar, and vice versa. Medication doesn't work as well for borderline sufferers as it would for bipolar sufferers.
Of course, there are people that have both.
Seriously guys. Just chill. Watch this video of kittens instead.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_53FZBTuxk[/youtube]
No? Oh okay. That only really works when normal people watch it.
Because they get to be on disability or receive special employment services like I'm about to get . It's "humorous" to think their are ignoramuses who claim depressive/anxious people who are accused of being "weak willed" for committing suicide yet go on to sympathize for cancer suffers etc they must have quite some character as I assume it's safe to say the suicide rate is rather low especially so compared to depressive types.
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yet the stupid government in their disability work programs ads continue to define it as some one in a wheel chair or some one who stutters or even worse a wheal chair person who stutters
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I'd take the highs and lows over a manic low if you never hit it hope you never do.
People see or hear what can be done by a focused manic person they think that's what it's like all the time. The other common misconception is that a "crazy" person can do whatever they want with no consequences. It is all ways out of ignorance any whether it be misinformation or shear foolishness.
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He didn't say what I think he did, did he?
I'm not sure I didn't understand any of it.
although to be fair, sufferers of Borderline PD are often misdiagnosed as bipolar, and vice versa. Medication doesn't work as well for borderline sufferers as it would for bipolar sufferers.
Of course, there are people that have both.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj7GmeSAxXo[/youtube]
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Don't worry, Otherside, I'm ignoring them.
Sometimes though I wish I wasn't so rapid cycling. I get the great creative ideas with hypomania and then it's just gone.
If I could choose I wouldn't want bipolar at all. Or ADHD.
All my siblings, except my bipolar sister, have pretty much made it in the world. They probably still have their problems but they have stability.
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