Why are women grossed out by the male body?

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10 Aug 2017, 2:05 pm

^ Well lady jrjones, you know, normally men don't get invited to a bachelorette party.



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10 Aug 2017, 2:11 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
^ Well lady jrjones, you know, normally men don't get invited to a bachelorette party.

Bartenders or anyone in a service industry should encounter them occasionally. Even anyone who goes out to nightclub districts.

We do have lots of sheltered people who make sweeping generalizations.

Also, is that a sexist dig or am I overthinking it? Every time I post in this forum, I half expect trolling posts from you. FR, half the time I see any new thread here, I look forward to seeing those posts.


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10 Aug 2017, 2:15 pm

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
^ Well lady jrjones, you know, normally men don't get invited to a bachelorette party.

Bartenders or anyone in a service industry should encounter them occasionally. Even anyone who goes out to nightclub districts.

We do have lots of sheltered people who make sweeping generalizations.

Also, is that a sexist dig or am I overthinking it?


Well, a female acquaintance once showed me videos of a bachelorette party with a male stripper.
Like the leaked videos you see on the net, they giggle like sillies all the time and scream frequently "Woooooo!!.



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10 Aug 2017, 6:02 pm

The city next to me has a male strip club. One lady I dated for one date told me her and her friends went to it often.



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10 Aug 2017, 8:00 pm

Is it really.an argument whether men or women are sexualized and judged on their appearance more?

Sure, women are attracted to the male body. But its pretty obvious society places a big emphasis on female beauty and physical attractiveness, almost to the point boys and men's faces and bodies are almost automatically considered 'ugly' to society.

Its probably partly cultural (think how ancient greeks and romans actually idolized.male beauty and masculinity) and biological (masculinity, femininity and.standards of beauty such as symmetrically, good waist to hip ratio, sexual dimorphism, etc. Remain universally attractive across all cultures).

Going off the male stripper example, something tells.me there's far more female strippers, at least portrayed in the media, than male strippers.

The fact there's no ugly female porn stars while men like Ron Jeremy can be is another sign.

Who is makeup made for in mind? Why's there maybe three times as.many hair,.makeup, deodorant products for women vs men at every store?

Because women use it more. Why do women use.it more? Because they want to,because they have to due to beauty standards, or both?

How come theres probably about three times as many women's clothes at the clothes store than men?



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11 Aug 2017, 12:22 am

I dislike the female body. I find woman and boobs pretty but the vulva isn't my thing. There are exceptions to this, but very rare. I prefer male bodies and happy to watch them, I watch naked attraction which is a nude dating show, but some are very off putting. Plus you get so many dick pics as a woman on a dating site the novelty wears off.



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11 Aug 2017, 1:40 am

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I dislike the female body. I find woman and boobs pretty but the vulva isn't my thing. There are exceptions to this, but very rare. I prefer male bodies and happy to watch them, I watch naked attraction which is a nude dating show, but some are very off putting. Plus you get so many dick pics as a woman on a dating site the novelty wears off.


I cannot for the life of me figure out why so many guys does this.. :roll:



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11 Aug 2017, 2:54 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
jrjones9933 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
^ Well lady jrjones, you know, normally men don't get invited to a bachelorette party.

Bartenders or anyone in a service industry should encounter them occasionally. Even anyone who goes out to nightclub districts.

We do have lots of sheltered people who make sweeping generalizations.

Also, is that a sexist dig or am I overthinking it?


Well, a female acquaintance once showed me videos of a bachelorette party with a male stripper.
Like the leaked videos you see on the net, they giggle like sillies all the time and scream frequently "Woooooo!!.


I've seen male strip shows online. They typically have a "no touch" rule to protect the stripper from the women. :mrgreen:



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11 Aug 2017, 2:57 am

Closet Genious wrote:
amykitten wrote:
I dislike the female body. I find woman and boobs pretty but the vulva isn't my thing. There are exceptions to this, but very rare. I prefer male bodies and happy to watch them, I watch naked attraction which is a nude dating show, but some are very off putting. Plus you get so many dick pics as a woman on a dating site the novelty wears off.


I cannot for the life of me figure out why so many guys does this.. :roll:


My guess is that they want to make sure that the women they want to date know they expect a lot of sex. It has nothing to do with flashing at least.



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11 Aug 2017, 3:10 am

Also Jamsey is equating penis to the 'male body', this is kinda ridiculous.

I mentioned in the other thread:

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^ Look, I have heard it from the mouths of many women, not from guys, Even my girlfriend told me that she finds the Rock and Vin Diesel as her sexiest idols.

Vin Diesel probably is the most celeb name frequently mentioned as the hottest guy ever I've ever heard (usually by women in the 30-40 age bracket), Hugh Jackman as the Wolverine guy comes next, while the Rock is too beefy for many though and less frequently mentioned.

It's not like I've heard these names from women in one or two times occurrences, but like in countless of times.



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11 Aug 2017, 3:22 am

I don't think women are grossed out by the male body at all. Well I'm certainly not; often it's a beautiful thing.
However, having a male whip his genitals out unexpectedly and unwantingly is most likely simply that; unwanted.
It's the action of forcing the female to view his genitals regardless of her choice to want to do so or not that's ugly; not so much the body part.
Boobs and bums are much less explicit than genitals.


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11 Aug 2017, 3:40 am

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I find it surprising that males report more negative attitudes towards flashing. I would imagine there would be a difference between a male flashing a group of women to that of a male flashing a woman by herself since a group of women would have support from others to make them feel safer about the encounter while a singled out woman might feel much more vulnerable to the encounter. I would also imagine the individual's personal reward system would come into play as well and play some part in how they feel about this type of behavior.


The only problem with that is that this effect was absent in Russia. It might be argued that because females in Russia did not give higher disgust ratings when they disliked flashing, we wouldn't expect them to give lower ratings in a group either. Which does go back to safety of course, and the beliefs in the West that flashers are dangerous.

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Not surprised that culture has a significant impact on how this type of behavior is ultimately viewed as primitive humans wouldn't have as many stigmas and social expectations to deal with. I would imagine covering up was more about survival than aesthetics and social expectations developed over time and throughout different cultures. Thanks for posting the study, I will check it out.


I wouldn't exactly call Russia primitive. :mrgreen:



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11 Aug 2017, 3:57 am

Miss Rebecca wrote:
However, having a male whip his genitals out unexpectedly and unwantingly is most likely simply that; unwanted.
It's the action of forcing the female to view his genitals regardless of her choice to want to do so or not that's ugly; not so much the body part.
Boobs and bums are much less explicit than genitals.


Well, I've seen a lot of flashing videos online, and I simply cannot relate to force in this context. In those videos, most often the female doesn't see anything at all, and when they do, most of them just ignore and leave, and then the video ends because nothing more happens.

So it really comes down to something else: Why can't females that don't enjoy flashing in the West just ignore flashers as they do in Russia? Because Western culture expects females to get offended by flashing.

Then if we look at cat calling and sexual harassment, a completely different picture emerges. These males are actively harassing females, and if they get the opportunity, will continue with physical contact and potentially even rape. Problem is, cat calling is largely legal, and it is expected that women learn to "fend off" these creeps. Why?



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11 Aug 2017, 4:00 am

Didn't humans start to wear clothes when immigrated out of Africa in order to stay warm in cold days? (or even to protect their skin from sun in desert areas).



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11 Aug 2017, 4:09 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Didn't humans start to wear clothes when immigrated out of Africa in order to stay warm in cold days? (or even to protect their skin from sun in desert areas).


I'd guess so, which means that nudeness phobia is not something innate in humans. It's a cultural taboo, nothing else.



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11 Aug 2017, 4:40 am

[quote="rdos]
Well, I've seen a lot of flashing videos online, and I simply cannot relate to force in this context[/quote]

If you aren't given an option or choice in if you wish to see a man's gentians or not, and he shows them to you regardless, then IMO that is forcing you to view them. Same would apply for a woman doing this to a man in the same situation.
On a much more serious side of things, that is why 'Indecent Exposure' is a chargeable offence. Here in Australia a man or woman can be charged with Indecent Exposure for urinating in a public space (as in going into an alleyway or a more hidden area) because the law states that exposing your genitals in public or to an unwilling recipient is illegal. A number of years ago a male friend of mine got charged with indecent exposure after a night of having a few too many drinks and wandered up a laneway where he thought he could relieve himself in private without anyone seeing him. The police came around the corner whilst he was relieving himself and he now has an Indecent Exposure charge on his police file.


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