Why being a woman must suck at times!
I do wonder if we should keep it to this love and dating context.
As far as love and dating goes, I would say the fact that, on the topic of love and dating, women are values for their beauty and youth, and while someone can do something about beauty to some extent, one can't stop themselves from aging.
But the fact that men are most attracted to 20 year old women doesn't bother me because I recognize that as deeply ingrained by evolution rather than a social problem that one can be held accountable for. I do have a problem with those men who won't date a woman their age or only slightly older though. I know a woman who was 4 years older than her boyfriend and became pregnant by him. He then dumped her, told her she should get an abortion, and that she was too old for him, despite that fact that it was only 4 years, and he was fine with the age difference before she became pregnant. But I do believe he is a jerk among men, and certainly the exception. It's unfortunate though that she didn't discover this before she slept with him.
There's also the fact that sex is invasive for women and may not result in the pleasure that it does for men, women are expected to put out, but are also shamed for doing so, and then the men who respond violently to rejection, though I mentioned that.
I do wonder if we should keep it to this love and dating context.
As far as love and dating goes, I would say the fact that, on the topic of love and dating, women are values for their beauty and youth, and while someone can do something about beauty to some extent, one can't stop themselves from aging.
But the fact that men are most attracted to 20 year old women doesn't bother me because I recognize that as deeply ingrained by evolution rather than a social problem that one can be held accountable for. I do have a problem with those men who won't date a woman their age or only slightly older though. I know a woman who was 4 years older than her boyfriend and became pregnant by him. He then dumped her, told her she should get an abortion, and that she was too old for him, despite that fact that it was only 4 years, and he was fine with the age difference before she became pregnant. But I do believe he is a jerk among men, and certainly the exception. It's unfortunate though that she didn't discover this before she slept with him.
There's also the fact that sex is invasive for women and may not result in the pleasure that it does for men, women are expected to put out, but are also shamed for doing so, and then the men who respond violently to rejection, though I mentioned that.
I just want to offer a different perspective to the last point, and don't get me wrong I don't disagree with you, there's no conflict here.
But me and my close friends have sometimes discussed the pressure to actually perform well in bed, because the responsibility of sex being good lies mostly on the man. I am sure not all men think like this, but alot of us want it to actually be good for both involved.
I do wonder if we should keep it to this love and dating context.
As far as love and dating goes, I would say the fact that, on the topic of love and dating, women are values for their beauty and youth, and while someone can do something about beauty to some extent, one can't stop themselves from aging.
But the fact that men are most attracted to 20 year old women doesn't bother me because I recognize that as deeply ingrained by evolution rather than a social problem that one can be held accountable for. I do have a problem with those men who won't date a woman their age or only slightly older though. I know a woman who was 4 years older than her boyfriend and became pregnant by him. He then dumped her, told her she should get an abortion, and that she was too old for him, despite that fact that it was only 4 years, and he was fine with the age difference before she became pregnant. But I do believe he is a jerk among men, and certainly the exception. It's unfortunate though that she didn't discover this before she slept with him.
There's also the fact that sex is invasive for women and may not result in the pleasure that it does for men, women are expected to put out, but are also shamed for doing so, and then the men who respond violently to rejection, though I mentioned that.
I just want to offer a different perspective to the last point, and don't get me wrong I don't disagree with you, there's no conflict here.
But me and my close friends have sometimes discussed the pressure to actually perform well in bed, because the responsibility of sex being good lies mostly on the man. I am sure not all men think like this, but alot of us want it to actually be good for both involved.
Yes, but this thread is about "Why Being a Woman Must Suck at Times" not "Why Being a Man Must Suck at Times". Most of the posts on the L&D forum express the latter on a fairly regular basis.
1. There are not as many physically attractive men out there compared to women
2.having unattractive men chase after you
3. Having more bisexual feeling towards your own gender
Do you think I am right in my opinion or not?
I remember, back in college, I was dating a girl I wasn't attracted to at all, and I was thankful for the opportunity.
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Lol. Theory of mind issue right here.
Just because you see something a certain way doesn't mean other people do.
Do you really believe that women are generally more attracted to each other than they are to men?
It's not impossible
Lol. Theory of mind issue right here.
Just because you see something a certain way doesn't mean other people do.
Do you really believe that women are generally more attracted to each other than they are to men?
It's not impossible
Most women, like most men, are heterosexual.
3. Less likely to be included in career building social outings, or have access to mentors.
I work in a pre-dominately female environment (Public library) so I wonder if I have an unique perspective. My supervisor is a woman and so are her assistants. If I make a mistake, I almost immediately get a harsh lecture for it and I'll keep getting told "Don't forget about x" as if I constantly need to be reminded.
My supervisor, one of her assistants, and some of the other women have a "circle" and if you aren't in that circle, you are not spared being reprimanded from things like using your cellphone and using the internet despite how everyone in the circle uses their cellphones and does Google searching on the job. The harsh tones of voice I get in comparison to the tone the women give each other makes me wonder if they think because I am a man that I am supposed to "take it".
I've been at my job for ten years and I've never been promoted or offered a promotion. I've also only have been given two raises and the last one was for 20 cents.
Things that actually suck about being a women:
1. Being valued only for your appearance.
2. Being seen as less competent/intelligent/capable than men (and then having idiots lecture you on why that's a "good" thing).
This is what I wish the people of my gender would stop doing. I am sure women have had enough of this by now. :/
-LegoMaster2149 (Written on September 18, 2017)
Yeah, but to be completely fair, I wish certain women would stop objectifying men as nothing but human ATMs.
I just want a girl I find attractive and who I get along with. I'm way more about women's personality I super attracted to playful silly women(tend to be younger women as older women get all serious all the time
But I do need to find them attractive which is model looks in fact I probably wouldn't want to be with someone sonthin and good looking though I wouldn't reject a someone like they if we got along. Curvy or average or big whatever society calls them now women are more comfortable for hugs and cuddles in my experience. Though I've only cuddled with one thin woman. Personality, interests then face looks as far as priorities though often we see people before we can learn their personality
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Lol. Theory of mind issue right here.
Just because you see something a certain way doesn't mean other people do.
Do you really believe that women are generally more attracted to each other than they are to men?
It's not impossible
Most women, like most men, are heterosexual.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... aight.html
Umm even THAT is questionable about you, you mysterious aliens from venus.
Getting aroused by two naked women having sex doesn't really indicate real heterosexuality.
There's a social pressure to be heterosexual.
Jeez, you seriously don't know what you want, you live your lives without even knowing your true sexual orientation.
3. Less likely to be included in career building social outings, or have access to mentors.
I work in a pre-dominately female environment (Public library) so I wonder if I have an unique perspective. My supervisor is a woman and so are her assistants. If I make a mistake, I almost immediately get a harsh lecture for it and I'll keep getting told "Don't forget about x" as if I constantly need to be reminded.
My supervisor, one of her assistants, and some of the other women have a "circle" and if you aren't in that circle, you are not spared being reprimanded from things like using your cellphone and using the internet despite how everyone in the circle uses their cellphones and does Google searching on the job. The harsh tones of voice I get in comparison to the tone the women give each other makes me wonder if they think because I am a man that I am supposed to "take it".
I've been at my job for ten years and I've never been promoted or offered a promotion. I've also only have been given two raises and the last one was for 20 cents.
Men in female dominated fields tend to earn more and be promoted faster than women in female dominated fields but if we saw more men enter female dominated fields, experiences such as yours may increase.
Lol. Theory of mind issue right here.
Just because you see something a certain way doesn't mean other people do.
Do you really believe that women are generally more attracted to each other than they are to men?
It's not impossible
Most women, like most men, are heterosexual.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... aight.html
Umm even THAT is questionable about you, you mysterious aliens from venus.
Getting aroused by two naked women having sex doesn't really indicate real heterosexuality.
There's a social pressure to be heterosexual.
Jeez, you seriously don't know what you want, you live your lives without even knowing your true sexual orientation.
"The results, which were based on elements such as whether their pupils dilated in response to sexual stimuli, showed that 82% of the women tested were aroused by both sexes"
In other words, they decided what physiological responses indicate a woman is sexually aroused, rather than actually asking the woman herself. The very obvious problem here is they making assumptions about what physiological responses are associated with what emotions, perceptions and experiences. I recall I once read a study which claimed that women experience a sexual thrill when they win on a slot machine. Of course they never asked a woman if this was the case. They made their conclusions based on the fact that they detected electrical activity in the groin region when women hit the jack pot. Any woman who has experienced this can tell you, it's not sexual arousal. There's a nerve that runs from the groin to the belly button....this is why some people experience pain in their groin when they jam a Q tip into their belly button. This nerve just gets a burst of electrical activity in response to adrenaline, but it's not sexual.
If straight women get turned on by seeing other women engaged in sex acts, then it's probably a result of mirror neurons and not an actual attraction to the woman. In other words, the woman see's the other woman and envisions herself. The same reason that adult films aimed at heterosexual men have men in them (and the reason boys tend to draw male genitalia on everything?).
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Lol. Theory of mind issue right here.
Just because you see something a certain way doesn't mean other people do.
Do you really believe that women are generally more attracted to each other than they are to men?
It's not impossible
Most women, like most men, are heterosexual.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... aight.html
Umm even THAT is questionable about you, you mysterious aliens from venus.
Getting aroused by two naked women having sex doesn't really indicate real heterosexuality.
There's a social pressure to be heterosexual.
Jeez, you seriously don't know what you want, you live your lives without even knowing your true sexual orientation.
"The results, which were based on elements such as whether their pupils dilated in response to sexual stimuli, showed that 82% of the women tested were aroused by both sexes"
In other words, they decided what physiological responses indicate a woman is sexually aroused, rather than actually asking the woman herself. The very obvious problem here is they making assumptions about what physiological responses are associated with what emotions, perceptions and experiences. I recall I once read a study which claimed that women experience a sexual thrill when they win on a slot machine. Of course they never asked a woman if this was the case. They made their conclusions based on the fact that they detected electrical activity in the groin region when women hit the jack pot. Any woman who has experienced this can tell you, it's not sexual arousal. There's a nerve that runs from the groin to the belly button....this is why some people experience pain in their groin when they jam a Q tip into their belly button. This nerve just gets a burst of electrical activity in response to adrenaline, but it's not sexual.
If straight women get turned on by seeing other women engaged in sex acts, then it's probably a result of mirror neurons and not an actual attraction to the woman. In other words, the woman see's the other woman and envisions herself. The same reason that adult films aimed at heterosexual men have men in them (and the reason boys tend to draw male genitalia on everything?).
People lie when they get asked directly or even lie to themselves.
The body may be more honest.
Also your mirror neuron theory doesn't explain why heterosexual men don't get horny over gay porn.
You can't assume that all scientists are too idiot to take this in consideration.
Lol. Theory of mind issue right here.
Just because you see something a certain way doesn't mean other people do.
Do you really believe that women are generally more attracted to each other than they are to men?
It's not impossible
Most women, like most men, are heterosexual.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... aight.html
Umm even THAT is questionable about you, you mysterious aliens from venus.
Getting aroused by two naked women having sex doesn't really indicate real heterosexuality.
There's a social pressure to be heterosexual.
Jeez, you seriously don't know what you want, you live your lives without even knowing your true sexual orientation.
"The results, which were based on elements such as whether their pupils dilated in response to sexual stimuli, showed that 82% of the women tested were aroused by both sexes"
In other words, they decided what physiological responses indicate a woman is sexually aroused, rather than actually asking the woman herself. The very obvious problem here is they making assumptions about what physiological responses are associated with what emotions, perceptions and experiences. I recall I once read a study which claimed that women experience a sexual thrill when they win on a slot machine. Of course they never asked a woman if this was the case. They made their conclusions based on the fact that they detected electrical activity in the groin region when women hit the jack pot. Any woman who has experienced this can tell you, it's not sexual arousal. There's a nerve that runs from the groin to the belly button....this is why some people experience pain in their groin when they jam a Q tip into their belly button. This nerve just gets a burst of electrical activity in response to adrenaline, but it's not sexual.
If straight women get turned on by seeing other women engaged in sex acts, then it's probably a result of mirror neurons and not an actual attraction to the woman. In other words, the woman see's the other woman and envisions herself. The same reason that adult films aimed at heterosexual men have men in them (and the reason boys tend to draw male genitalia on everything?).
People lie when they get asked directly or even lie to themselves.
The body may be more honest.
Also your mirror neuron theory doesn't explain why heterosexual men don't get horny over gay porn.
You can't assume that all scientists are too idiot to take this in consideration.
"Mirror neurons are a group of gray matter neural cells stimulated by the observation of an activity, which enables the observer to imitate the movement (2). In humans, these neurons are located in the premotor and intraparietal cortex (3). Neuroanatomy of the mirror neuron system is different in males and females."
What sucks about being a woman is that men think they know how we think and feel and how we experience things without actually asking us and then if we disagree we must be lying to ourselves.
Hey doc this painkiller does work for me. 'Rubbish we've tested it and it works to relieve pain.'
Did you test it on any women?
'Dont be stupid. Why would we do that? It should just work for everyone.'
Do women say things like this to men?
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Hey doc this painkiller does work for me. 'Rubbish we've tested it and it works to relieve pain.'
Did you test it on any women?
'Dont be stupid. Why would we do that? It should just work for everyone.'
Do women say things like this to men?
No self-respecting doctor would act like that, this story sounds like some sketch from a comedy show - it is not very believable.
One fundamental thing in medicine that there's no med/drug that works for everyone, every real doctor should know that- and pharma companies should surely test all its drugs on both genders, I think (except gender specific drugs like anti pregnancy pills).
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