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traven
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23 Jul 2023, 2:17 am

i think endemol started some, there may be others idk
they were already trash tv before faking fake reality

social engeneering is the thing
trash is fashion, fake is the best

wait what's that, disney got in it as well,

Endemol was founded in 1994 by a merger of television production companies owned by Joop van den Ende and John de Mol, the name deriving from the combination of their surnames.
Endemol specialised in formatted programming that can be adapted for different countries around the world as well as different media platforms. One notable success has been the Big Brother reality television show, with versions in many countries after the initial Dutch version. Other examples include Deal or No Deal (sold to over 75 countries), The Money Drop (sold in over 50 countries), Fear Factor (sold in 30 countries) and Wipeout (sold in over 35 countries). In recent years the company has also been expanding its English language drama output with shows such as titles such as The Fall, Peaky Blinders, Ripper Street and Black Mirror in the UK and Hell on Wheels in the US. In November 2013.
--sale to the big club, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endemol_S ... to_Banijay

how complicated disney is the owner but banjiay is notdisney, or ? subsidary it says, not to what

the package to help the advertisers, homedecor, fashion, cosmedics, fame fantasy,
"we" all have the same outdoorsindoors brought to you by -your plastic future-



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23 Jul 2023, 3:51 am

mharrington85 wrote:

How can these shows be called "reality" if they are in fact fake?


Right?


mharrington85 wrote:
But why then are they called "reality shows" if they are in fact not real?


RIGHT???


mharrington85 wrote:
But if they are scripted, then what makes reality shows different from a drama or a sitcom?



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28 Jul 2023, 10:50 am

I've been thinking about "Reality TV" off and on since the thread was created.

One thought I had was everything we watch presents a narrative and sometimes a completely different narrative depending how it is edited and pieced together. Documentaries, for example, should be a representation of what was recorded. However, compare the documentary Let It Be with Peter Jackson's The Beatles: Get Back. Same raw film to work from, but two very different stories.

Drive to Survive, which has made Formula One so popular in parts of the United States is very much the same. The makers of that show edit the footage into a narrative the audience will hopefully find entertaining. It's a tad different from what one experiences watching the races. Even the races, watching F1 with Sky commentary versus F1 Live is different. The footage is the same, but commentators place their emphasis on different things, and that's where opinions are formed. The commentators for IndyCar have a similar task of creating a task of creating a narrative for the viewer. Much of it is contrived. I think all sports presentation do this, although I don't watch all sports. The narrative of the players, and teams are controlled by the commentary. The ultimate "Reality TV" sports is of course Professional Wrestling, which more like live theater. It is possibly the older brother of the modern day "Reality TV" show. So "Reality TV" is for people who are not interested in sports.

Basically, everything we watch, that is presented to an audience is contrived, sometimes scripted, sometimes a story pieced together from available footage, or a scripted narration.

A great reality TV show would be to take eight billion individuals, stick them on a relatively small planet, and let them run amuck. So much drama. So many versions of the same story depending on the point of view.
(I'm in a mood. I'm rambling. :| )

I don't fret about "Reality TV."



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03 Aug 2023, 3:49 pm

Reality shows contain unscripted dialogue between various people, thus making it more 'reality' than in shows where people have carefully rehearsed lines.

Reality show participants might be thrown into a stressful situation, so that fireworks can occur between them (figuratively), to the end of entertaining a watching television audience.



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03 Aug 2023, 3:59 pm

For me the early seasons of Endemol's Big Brother were essential viewing.

Of course it wasn't reality, but it was basically ordinary people trying to function in a very unreal environment. I found it fascinating.

I felt like the production companies lost confidence in what they had. They started worrying that naturally interesting situations weren't enough. They had to start engineering situations and deliberating finding people with more extreme/volatile personalities who would play up to cameras.

Perhaps it was inevitable, once people figured out how it worked, that reality TV would tend towards less and less reality.


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