Mild, Morbid, or what? (aspergers topic discussion)

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Well the government authorities should be happy to know that people like me don't care what they think of my conversations anymore........if they don't like it, well they have the technology to track me down and come talk to me about it right?

im not realy sure what that last post was suposed to mean.im gonna assume it was about abortion.this forum in general all weekend has been more negative then ive seen it in while.lets get back to resposable posting and more wonton negativity,which im sick of.i wiil be unavailable all day today so dont disapoint me

Sorry, you appear to have missed my point - that is anbuend and she quite evidently does have the capability to make a video.
I referenced the fixed locations and hand-held first-person camera work to show how no further help would be required. The camera was either placed on some static location (tripod, bookshelf, table etc.) and set to record whatever passed before it, or it was held by anbuend to record what she saw from her viewpoint.

That's just bizarre and TBH, it doesn't even deserve a response.

Your answer is a tautology! Thankyou, you have managed to provide no answer!

cornflake and ahogday:
you claim that she is filming, well I seen movement of the camera while she is not even near the camera, 7:48-&:50. And the camera is fading so you can't tell if she is turning the camera off or what.

aghogday:
My opinion is the beginning of life is at the beginning of life
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As in, sperm, fetus, first breath, that kind of thing.

verrmontsavant:
It is an abortion question. The question is basically where is your stoping point for murder or however you want to see abortion, letal injection, or the thing they do to coma patients to kill them.

Sweetleaf:
Well the government authorities should be happy to know that people like me don't care what they think of my conversations anymore........if they don't like it, well they have the technology to track me down and come talk to me about it right?
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yea and they have better things to do than watch a bunch of kids-adults or whatever ages are on this site.

Gedene:
Your answer is a tautology! Thankyou, you have managed to provide no answer!
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don't worry about it, hog and corn are both failed trolls.

Corn as soon as hog provides an answer to the abortion question with a legit response and stops trying to avoid it you can lock the thread.

Didn't think you would really be interested in the details of when I think the beginning of life is, but here it is.

There are humans, they have ancestors, their ancestors have ancestors, there is a small rodent like mammal that existed along with the dinosaurs about 75 million years ago that is both the ancestor of all human beings and the ancestors of the mice that live today.

That rodent like creature had ancestors as well that connect back to the physical properties that came together to create the first sign of animate life on earth. However without those physical properties life could not have started so the origin of life goes beyond those physical properties to the beginning of all that is, which no one has a definitive handle on.

That's why I stated the beginning of life is the beginning of life; I doubt my opinion is the mainstream one, but it is my opinion.

For humans as individuals if any of the links to their existence had been broken from the time the sperm fertilized the egg that led to the knowledge of their existence or before that point in time to all of the other required continuum of elements, events, and actions required for their existence starting with the orgin of life, it would mean their non-existence.

Therefore the entire continuum is equally important to their existence and life and if at any point that continuum was broken it would mean non-existence and the abscence of life for that individual.

And beyond that everything we see in life has the same origin, so all of life is part of that same origin of life, along with everything else we call reality.

Abortion is part of the current reality of life. Considering that, and in respect for all life that in my understanding I am connected to from what I consider the origin of life, as provided above, I would hope the method used would be the one that caused the least amount of discomfort for that part of life that is part of the same continuum of life that I am part of.

The current legal restrictions on abortion take this into consideration. And the methods used determined by medical scientists to terminate a pregnancy take this into consideration as well. I don't consider myself to have a better answer than the ones those scientists have provided to terminate the pregnancy.

The death penalty is a reality as well as a coma for human beings; the legal system and medical field determine the appropriate restrictions and methods used, I do not consider myself to have better alternatives for the current methods used, since I am not a medical authority on what are the most humane ways to deal with these realities of life.

Regarding the Video on You Tube, perhaps Wiki can explain it better than I can:

The links in the Wiki article go directly to the same you tube video "In my Language" that you watched.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Baggs

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edit: damn spacing messed up my graphic

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Cornflake is not a troll.

im not sure who gedrene is quoting or who originaly called cornflake a troll.however the mods here are very kind and laid back.can we get this topic on topic and end the negativity

In my opinion, I would like to see the Asperger's label remain in the new DSM, but I can also see validity for the changes. I suppose I just like things the way they are. I didn't vote on the poll because it seems to imply that Asperger's and autism are different things??? Did I miss read that???

@glider.the label doesnt mean much but lorna wing i believe wanted the change so people dx with aspergers wouldnt be denied services only available to people dx with the classic autistic disorder.most of these services are irelivent to most people with aspergers,but some people with aspergers do need them

It seems the Op had the opinion that the folks with autism who score lower than normal on IQ tests aren't really autistic. And somehow they mislead the portrayal of what autism is or isn't, and make things bad for those that are more fortunate in life.

I didn't answer the poll question either, for what appears to be a similiar reason that you didn't.

Ok, the poll was meant to determine whether they should make AS a seperate label from classic autism. They would keep AS on the DSM for the people who need it, but make more strict criteria like the following off autism:

(copied from the DSM-IV)

(A) qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:

1. marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and gestures to regulate social interaction
2. failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
3. a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people, (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)
4. lack of social or emotional reciprocity ( note: in the description, it gives the following as examples: not actively participating in simple social play or games, preferring solitary activities, or involving others in activities only as tools or "mechanical" aids )

(C) restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests and activities, as manifested by at least two of the following:

2. apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals


(II) Delays or abnormal functioning in at least one of the following areas, with onset prior to age 3 years:
(A) social interaction
(B) language as used in social communication
(C) symbolic or imaginative play

Thanks for the clarification. To me there seems like pros and cons. Those who have support needs with Aspergers will probably benefit the most so I would have to go with the consolidation, in my opinion. If they were to keep Aspergers as a separate disorder, in the DSM from Autism Spectrum Disorder, I don't see a need to change the current criteria for Aspergers. At this point, I think the least likely of scenarios will be that the disorders will be separated in the future.

Yet right now the push is to make some freakish amalgalm of the whole thing by calling it autism spectrum disorders, which given the evidence is completely absurd, an overgeneralization.