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Turn away from the Dark Side Dox.

Dox is always welcome over to our side, honey. I'll even share my bullets with him. Oh, yeah.

I'll even let him shoot Big Sig, cause I know he has a soft spot for a cute P229.

This is exactly what I'd like to see more of:

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Just a simple reminder that someone is being rude to other users of the site, and that maybe that isn't cool.

My terminology is that I am not a Conservative of this planet or any politics and am not under any drafted illusion of being one.

I think I’d be gender opposed to strip searching but it all depends on the situation at hand..

Cleanliness is the closest thing to Godliness, so if we’re all borne out of our depth over free movement, then the outcome has clear repercussions for the onlooker whose life depends on it.

In any case, if this is like in reference to gender sharing families, I.e. sharing the swimming bars, I get that, but I won’ tolerate sexism anywhere, or wolf whistling in any way when there is clear diversity over any minority in the room. I don't oppose transgender families using community bars, but I do oppose sharing the facilities in nude form. Does anyone understand that I wonder?

Yes. I realise Dox you're aware that this is wrong. But doing this will just validate that person's views.

Let them tie the rope around their own necks. Look at the reception mootoo has got to his threads.

Also, the person could just be venting and frustrated and a reasonable voice might be able to get through. No chance if you just go in on them in the same way, even if it might be cathartic, it won't achieve anything.

I know you messaged me as well when you made the thread, which was somewhat surprising when all the others who posted here who you contacted are veterans with thousands of posts. I didn't ignore you, I've been watching with some interest, I'm just not sure if I can contribute, I haven't seen enough of the site to feel confident about contributing to the discussion, but I'm not unwilling. Indeed, a more fresh perspective from someone relatively new with no real biases for or against anyone here might have some value.

I do however feel caution should be exercised with regard to trying to encourage the mods to start swinging the hammers. I'd rather see if possible adults solving their differences with each other like adults rather than trying to get each other banned. Once that kind of ugly culture sets in, no one has any reason to try and coexist when they can make the other person stop existing. Mods that get a taste for the hammer are bad news too, and from my limited experience our mods seem pretty restrained and reasonable.

But we (me) are not dealing with adults. I am having to deal with 2 yr olds who think when someone says something that they don't like then it is there right to call names - like I was just called a moron in my own thread and again called a liar by the same person and both times have been reported with no answer back. What recourse do I have but to turn these "people" in, but it still doesn't do any good. They get a slap on the hand and sent right on back out there to do it all over again. Of course when "certain" people open there mouth once and have a meltdown then they get close to being banned (one member is like that right now and afraid to even post because we have to many BULLIES on here getting away with crap!) As long as Alex lets this go on, then this site will never be a respectable site or one that Aspies can come to for support. In real life, I would fight my own battles, but here it would get me banned so I'm forced to keep using the "report" button like a REAL ADULT should but to no avail.

Well I'm not in much of a position to comment on our mods, I haven't reported anyone in my time here or been on the wrong end of moderation. I would hope if I ever did report someone though I would receive feedback on it.

Is that Sly you're talking about? I saw his thread. I did find that concerning, it did look like a bit of a witch hunt. Unfortunately, since I pay very little attention to the love and dating forum, which seemed to be where the complaints were coming from, I can't properly judge. But I didn't see anything in the thread or anything from him in my time here that I thought was bad.

I'm not going to beat around the bush - it was Sly. He sent me a PM saying he was too afraid to post except in that thread about how he was feeling according to some number scale because there is a "group" here he is afraid will come after him and get him banned. He said that he has one more chance left before being banned. Who makes up these rules? Is there a rule that a person only gets so many "reports"? I know the one I just reported I have reported several times and he is still here (I think you know who I am referring to), but Sly got banned and then unbanned. The reporting does no good because nothing happens to "certain" ones being reported - in fact, they still call me names saying they know I am going to report them. What a freaking farce. You want a decent place where people are civil to each other? Then certain weeds are going to have to be weeded out first and tossed in the trash because nothing so far is changing except that good people are leaving (or being banned).

I also was talking to Dox about a list of who has been banned being published for all to see along with the reason and the name of the moderator who banned them. He said a committee decides which members should be banned, but I think it should be the members who decide since it is the members who have to interact with these people. Dox also said that a big "X" used to be next to the people who were banned. I, for one, am tired of being out here not knowing what is going on and who has been banned and for what reasons. And does this committee know everyone who is banned or do the mods have free reign and can ban someone without this committee finding out?

I suppose Alex ultimately runs the show and makes the rules. As for that one person, I don't know who you mean. I might know, but I'm not sure and I don't want to name.

Unless Dox really did say there's a separate committee, it sounds to me like he means the mods decide, via committee, rather than one mod being allowed to drop the hammer all by themselves.

Members deciding who gets banned would be awful. Witch hunt city. Big cliques getting people banned or worse one big clique cleaning the forum out of anyone they don't like.

It sounded like you can only be banned three times and then you're finished. That seems worryingly inflexible.

Calling someone a liar or moron is a clear violation of the rules. As a support site there should be harsher sanctions meeted out for personal attacks then for a lot of other type violations. It is understood that PPR is more rough and tumble then other sections but in the last few months an occasional personal attack seems to have become acceptable.

Hey... since I was mentioned I might as well voice my opinion... I really have nothing against civil discussion, and if my titles were over-the-top it was to galvanize thought... I generally respond civilly to anyone who reciprocates, but the point is...Trump, of course...

I mean, how could anyone... and I mean everyone... have anything civil when discussing him? He's singularly full of hate and not a single word that comes out is either civil and more often than not a lie (studies were conducted for that)...

...so, how does anyone solve that problem? Obviously it will be resolved one way or another in Nov, but other than that how could anyone communicate that he's fascistic and basically Hitler incarnate without actually saying it? If, on the other hand, 'X' dislikes the association of such an ideology then, of course, they can distance themselves instead holding absolutely steadfast to their beliefs, like a ship in a storm, ignoring even the potential of a holocaust in the meantime.

I mean, these things are possible (Hitler was elected, people only regretted it later), all as such should be discussed, but as your own candidate isn't civil how does one approach it sensibly?

Godwin's Law is not only a weak position but undermines the hardship and realities of pre WW2 Germany and WW2 itself. You're best not using it in PPR if you don't want to get verbally demolished.

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Godwin's law can't be the excuse used to regret, as an afterthought, the real possibility of a repeat of WWII. History is supposed to be learnt from, and yet in many people's minds Godwin's law is suddenly a symbol of the impossibility of history repeating itself?

If you want an example of that look no further than Turkey.

I think it's a far stretch to compare this to every single republican or democrat (which happens every four years).

But I digress. Let's agree to disagree and save this thread for its intended purpose.

I bumping this to let my fellow non-liberals know that I've just personally verified that we can't expect a fair shake with the mods at the moment, and so to please be on your best behavior, as even the most innocuous comment can result in a warning in the current climate. I would hate to see this site become even more of a political mono-culture than it already is, so don't give them any excuses, we've already had enough questionable suspensions this year.

So I've noticed.