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pandabear
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23 Aug 2009, 4:41 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1mweFSqACU[/youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1mweFSqACU

Does his method look good?



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23 Aug 2009, 7:10 pm

even if you memorize the deck like he did it is still easy to see what he is doing.

the patterns of a single card counter are obvious. Particularly since casinoes have people that count their own decks. If they can predict your actions, you are counting cards. You bet low when the cards are not in your favor and really high when the cards are stacked in your favor.

the only people who have done card counting successfully worked as a team. The low bidders always bid low and the high bidders moved between tables always bidding high. There were no discernible peaks for the casinoes to track. They ran a team of 30+ people for over 10 years before the link to Harvard and MIT came up.


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23 Aug 2009, 8:16 pm

Well, I tried this game:

http://download.cnet.com/Black-Jack/300 ... ?tag=mncol

It is fortunate that I wasn't playing for real money. I can see where this game can get to be absorbing, and where you can lose a great deal of money in a short amount of time.



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23 Aug 2009, 9:28 pm

I wouldn't bother even trying to count at a casino. The surveillance is so sophisticated that you'd never get away with it. I believe that it is technically legal, since it's not cheating - it's just playing smarter than the house, assuming you do it all in your head. However, they will certainly ask you to leave and relay your info to all other casinos they have access to. I suppose it's better to be blacklisted than kneecapped, but either way the game's over. The house will always have an advantage, but with some basic research and practice, you can cut their advantage to a very small margin. I haven't played in quite some time so I'm sketchy on the particulars, but generally your best bet is in Vegas, especially on the old strip. Binion's is the best IMO. Their rules are slighly more to the players advantage and it is easier with a single deck. I wouldn't even play (seriously) anywhere else, especially not the Indian casinos as they are notorious for offering the worst odds on almost all of their games. Nothing wrong with playing for fun, though. I would try to time my game enterance for when the waitress is coming around with the free drinks. :)

A couple other games that carry a very small house advantage are video poker (know which payout schedule is best and learn how to play smart) and craps. I learned how to play on a playstation game and read a book called "What Casinos Don't Want You to Know." The most important and most difficult rule to learn for all games is: know when to walk away! Never try to chase your losses. There's a reason that casionos are so fancy and luxurious!



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23 Aug 2009, 11:17 pm

I was obsessed with counting cards for a while, but when i found out the casinos around here use card shuffling machines i gave up, im not going to gamble without having an advantage.
I still like playing online poker because you can have an advantage over other players if you study the game.



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31 Aug 2009, 1:15 pm

Well, the local Indian casino plays with 6 decks of cards at a time.

I went for an hour-long lesson. The minimum bet is $5. So, I lost $5, and then left.

Anyway, they do have the best buffet in town.