Beyond Pride Vs. (X,Y,Z) Advocacy

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One of it's primary strategies I've observed is how to create a perceived world against us mentality to garnish loyalty. It's PR successes were some of their organizations downfalls. It can be seen in protests with members holding signs accusing others of pity, accusations of war crimes like human cleansing and radicalism promoting confrontations instead of friendly discourse which does not promote tolerance but that of despondency. People who genuinely cared were trashed at times, individuals not understanding entirely were called ignorant at other times and bold but reckless pursuits to garnish attention sought to force their views while not respecting the views of even other self-advocates. In premise pride in a disorder is disputable and can be seen as sugar coating the reality of the disability real people experience but pride in ones work and mind is respectable.

It may be human nature that people are drawn to drama, conflict and disruption. It is not necessarily a fault but in the real life of others progress is needed. Perhaps a different kind of bold, attention gathering and defining advocacy may better realize change within society aside from the focused efforts of large organizations like Autism Speaks who focus on other matters like treatment research. We have advocacy like Autism Speaks and other parent advocacy efforts that seem to garnish great amounts of attention and success. Advocates that are highly successful like Temple Grandin whose approaches are more kind and positive have award winning results. What I am getting at is why not for those who find themselves disturbed or even distracted by autism political conflicts try to focus on something overall more positive and changing that individuals of all kinds of autism beliefs may help realize. People are not going to change their minds because some people but other individuals do not have pride in a disorder and want a cure when others would not like to remedy symptoms which prevent them from realizing normalcy. Self-acceptance and motivationalism don't necessarily need to force someone to realize hey your just different but to improve lives regardless of a core beliefs in what autism is.

In day to day reality beyond the politics of the pride movement which has proven to divide and be divisive we need a movement that spends as much if not more energy on ground breaking changes like inclusion. An inclusion whereas lives were where applicable are more excluded or even isolated. Some don't like the idea that autism can be portrayed as if it is a jail sentence. Realize however isolation and other exclusionary realities exist whether it's the inability to speak, participate as others do and become as independent as one desires. I was wondering if others will soon realize some kinds of advocacy are just not going to work for everyone while others need more attention, innovation, creativity and help to create effect.

For some is it always going to be about pride and prides ways only and is it ok that some of us with autism just don't want to be involved in it?

.........and your humble.the conclusion i have come to is that young kids today just see things diferent.i have my own pride in my own way its just diferent than kids today.most of the kids you label pride mites are just going through normal growing pains

I am not sure whom you consider a kid. For instance in protests I see individuals in their 20's if not early 30's. Yet some older people call people in their 20's and early 30's kids. I think I've used the word pride-mite 4-5 times in total. Just a response to the curebe name calling.

by kids i mean under 25, college students.i dont engage in curebee or pride mite name calling

You know, ci - I've had it up to here with your attacks on pride.

In addition to being an aspie, I'm gay. It took me a long time to understand that gay pride is about being proud of trying to understand yourself, come to terms with who you are, and surviving and even thriving in the face of adversity.

Everything I said about gay pride also holds for aspie/autie pride.

I'm proud to be an aspie. I am not an aspie supremicist, and I resent your trying to portray those of us asserting pride as being such.

I'm proud to be an aspie. I'm better than other people at some things and worse at others. I spent the first 54 years of my life trying to figure out who I am while surviving with my spirit and integrity intact in the process.

I'm proud to be an aspie. I'm glad to finally have found a community of people who have some understanding of what I face, what I have overcome, and who may benefit from who I am and what I have learned. I'm not withdrawing from the world at large, but I sure as hell am glad to have found this one.

I'm proud to be an aspie and I'm angry that someone is trying to take that pride away from me.

Stop it, ci.

How you think your post is a response to mine is beyond me.

look ci these anti pride posts are getting old. i wouldnt say your beatning a dead horse more like your beating dead wooly mamouth that died a million years ago.and your hardly humble,a person as proud as yourself has no right to judge others pride