Israeli internet users overjoyed at deaths of arab children.
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I don't think you understood his post correctly. He never invited me to find any such equivalent on Facebook. He asked me to find an analogous incident where he used Facebook as a source.
Although this is really missing the point, and I didn't directly use a Facebook source. The point is that a lot of pro Israeli people have lauded the worth of Israel's moral compass. I'm calling them out on it.
The thing you have to remember is that you cannot compare one society with the other. The Palestinians were born into the brunt end of a conflict and know nothing but their besieged and austere living standards. Unlike their Israeli neighbours, they do not have the privilege of objectivity.
I bet you could find more genocidal and hateful things said with regularity every day, every hour, on Arabic-language Facebook comments all over the Middle East and well beyond. (But the Electronic Intifada, with its muckracking obsession with Israel and the Jewish state, will never mention this, because it has a brutal, one-sided agenda.
You can't speak Arabic. How do you know what this means and what the wider context would be? Because EI says so? Do a bit of thinking on your own.
Even if this is true, there are hateful idiots out there in every single country on Earth. Are you going to reprint those too, or are you just going to print the ones found on anti-Israel websites with a very specific - I would say hateful - point of view? (There are more genuinely moderate Palestinian voices out there, and those I would happily listen to.)
It's nice to know that you support a website of a man born into immense privilege, too. Ali Abuinmah is the American-born, Ivy League-educated son of a Jordanian diplomat. Not bad, eh?
Here's more information on him:
The Guardian’s Middle East Editor, Ian Black, provided an analysis of President Obama’s March 21 speech in Jerusalem (titled ‘Obama shows emotional and political intelligence with Jerusalem speech‘) which represents a good example the Guardian Left tendency to impute ‘authenticity’ to the most radical and uncompromising activists.
This journalistic tick can be seen, for instance, in Harriet Sherwood’s decision to award ‘progressive’ Hechsher labels to both Joseph Dana and slain terror-abetting anti-Israel campaigner, Vittorio Arrigoni.
Such political posturing also colored their coverage of the so-called ‘Palestine Papers’ in 2011, where Mahmoud Abbas’s putative flexibility during negotiations with Israel over the refugee issue was characterized as ”craven” – as ”selling out” Palestinian rights – in a series of reports which seemed to reflect the media group’s attempt to ‘out-Palestinian’ the Palestinians themselves.
Abunimah writes some appalling, abhorrent stuff - like:
"Supporting Zionism is not atonement for the Holocaust, but its continuation in spirit."
""Two states for two peoples" is code for racist segregation. A supremacist "Jewish state" for privileged, and a ghetto for native majority."
"Obama is feeding Israel’s victim mentality, when Israel is an aggressor and occupier. He’s pandering to psychopaths."
"Isn't it time for a popular Palestinian revolution in the form of a third intifada?"
"Busy faking/planting evidence? "Mossad/Shin Bet help Bulgarian authorities work to confirm attacker's identity""
Guys, can we please have a break from the tit-for-tat postings about Israel/Palestine?
Really, it's just becoming a headline competition with little or nothing for members to get involved with and... y'know... discuss.
As someone said in another thread: "We get it, Israel/Palestine is great and Palestineans/Israelis are a bunch of murderous, anti-semitic/Islamaphobic cowards who keep attacking innocent people. Do you really need to post a thread on every news story that supports your world view?
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A bus of Palestinian children overturns killing 17, sparking an outburst of bloodlust and racist joy from Israeli internet users.
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali ... ash-killed
Watch some of the Palestinian celebrations following 9/11.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMOZvbYJMvU[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRNKvm-Ky-Q[/youtube]
Its pretty pathetic that your apparent special interest is to scour the internet all day looking for little tidbits to support your position while at the same time ignoring the hordes of evidence that prove beyond any and all doubt that at most, the Israelis are no worse than the Palestinians.
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The footage you showed was of a minority, the official position of the PNA was one of condemnation. Also, If you think it was only the arabs who smiled during 9/11 you are sorely naïve.
There are those from the four corners of the Earth with an axe to grind with the USA.
Frankly though, religious doctrine aside, considering the amount of support the USA has given Israel militarily, financially and politically I do not understand why the reaction of the Palestinian on the street is so surprising. No one in the UK during the war particularly lamented the near annihilation of Dresden.
Its pretty pathetic that your apparent special interest is to scour the internet all day looking for little tidbits to support your position while at the same time ignoring the hordes of evidence that prove beyond any and all doubt that at most, the Israelis are no worse than the Palestinians.
No more pathetic than the people who scour the internet to find tidbits to justify a nuclear armed militarised complex whose sole raison d'etre is the marginalisation of a besieged and impoverished homogenous group validated by one interpretation of a theological school. Many, if not most of the world's Jews choose to live outside Israel. If Zionism represents popular Judaism why don't they live in Israel rather than North America or Europe? Arabs do celebrate the misfortunes of the Judeo/Christian alliance no doubt. Israelis on the other hand, through their comparatively cushioned existence should have the benefit of an objective standpoint.
The footage you showed was of a minority,
I'm going to stop feeding the troll now, but "The footage you showed was of a minority" is a concept you ought to apply when you post absurd stories like this one. Or are you of the belief that a majority of Israelis are overjoyed when Arab children die?
No, because Israelis are evil. Old women in cafés deserve to be murdered for their evilness in occupying Palestine.
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No, because Israelis are evil. Old women in cafés deserve to be murdered for their evilness in occupying Palestine.
that's hardly what I said, even for one of your absurd stretches.
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The footage you showed was of a minority,
I'm going to stop feeding the troll now, but "The footage you showed was of a minority" is a concept you ought to apply when you post absurd stories like this one. Or are you of the belief that a majority of Israelis are overjoyed when Arab children die?
What worries me, and I've already said this before, it is somewhat worrying when a broad range of demographics hold these views largely without challenge. In the british isles, we get this kind of fanaticism from the EDL or the BNP and their ilk but it is usually from the usual suspects; slap headed thugs in football tops that don't know any better. When teenage girls, and supposedly upstanding soldiers are demonstrating these views without reprimand, it is discernably different.
A bus of Palestinian children overturns killing 17, sparking an outburst of bloodlust and racist joy from Israeli internet users.
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali ... ash-killed
So? It sounds a lot like what some arabs say about the Jews and the Israelis.
The difference is that in Arab countries, antisemitism is completely mainstream in public opinion and is a huge part of the culture of these countries. It is taught to children and preached on television and in the mosques.
In Israel, anti-Arab sentiment is the preserve of a minority of people.
The difference is that in Arab countries, antisemitism is completely mainstream in public opinion and is a huge part of the culture of these countries. It is taught to children and preached on television and in the mosques.
In Israel, anti-Arab sentiment is the preserve of a minority of people.
That is because the large percentage of Israelis know there are going to have to live with Arab speaking peoples some of whom are Muslims They have the sense of people who wish to live. Whereas most of the Arab Speaking peoples of the area are Muslim and in their hearts they want to be dead and in Paradise with Allah and their 72 dark eyed virgins (at least that is what the male Muslims hanker for). For a Muslim death (from the life of this world) is better than life in this world.
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since I have no other insight into popular Israeli attitude, sporadic assaults of verbal diarrhoea such as this provide a transient window into the Zionist mindset. Frankly the latte supping, sun bedded, westernised Jersey shore-esque Israeli social scene and Facebook go hand in hand, culturally,
Tell me, would I be any higher had the roles within the subject of this thread been reversed? I certainly don't think you'd have felt the need to chime in, if you are being absolutely honest with yourself.
That was a lot of Antisemitism packed into a small reply.
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I'd ask you to substantiate that, but since its a fools errand I won't tease you.
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