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As for the materials themselves; are they still produced through the victimization of children?
And rather than creating pornographic materials to sate pedophiles, wouldn't society - and the pedophiles themselves - be better served by providing them with therapy in order to thwart their sexual interest in children?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Did you really forget what started this conversation already?
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So, again, if computer generated child porn can help keep pedophiles from attacking real children, what is your problem with it?
As to society helping pedophiles, would you want to advertise your status as such in a society full of Fnords?
Thank you, by the way, Fnord, for making the world less safe for children, it's a real service you're doing there.
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Pedophile means someone who likes kids sexually; it's not the same thing as a child molester, who uses children to satisfy his pedophilia. In the same way, you being a straight man means you want women sexually, it doesn't mean that if you can't get laid you're going to go out and rape someone.
There was a very old thread on WP that had a pedophile asking people on WP for advice; he made it clear that he didn't want to hurt actual kids, but that he really couldn't help the attraction. I think such people need compassion and help, not only for their own sake, but because it would probably reduce the risk to kids as well.
The sorts of childish vengeance fantasies in this thread about tazering their balls and the like are not useful, and are getting mad at the wrong thing. It's getting mad at the attraction, which doesn't harm anyone and can't be helped, not at the actual abuse of children, which does harm someone and can be helped.
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A dunking booth at the state fair with a real live child molester in it,people would line up to throw a ball and dunk the Pedo,the money could go to abused children's services.No telling how much money could be made.
After all our government thinks its ok to waterboard people they THINK are terrorists,why can't we waterboard a convicted pervert??For a good cause,of course
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After all our government thinks its ok to waterboard people they THINK are terrorists,why can't we waterboard a convicted pervert??For a good cause,of course
Make that tank full of acid, an I will be in that line
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I've seen some claims about pedophiles, child pornography and child sexual abuse here. I know more than a little bit about pedophilia, I have a friend that is a pedophile, when he told me, I started to look up some information, I've seen articles in media, tried to read some scientific studies and also found some websites about pedophilia by pedophiles.
Certainly it can, but some studies seems to contradict the hypothesis, that availability of child pornography increases prevalence of child sexual abuse, some suggest that it can actually decrease it. There seem to be a lot of studies about child pornography increasing the risk of sexually abusing a child in individual with bad methodology that can't be therefore considered reliable.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 111326.htm
If it's the study I think it is, then I definitely wouldn't consider it a proof, that availability of child pornography decreases prevalence of child pornography, but it can be seen as a proof, that some claims about child pornography strongly increasing risk of child sexual abuse are not correct.
Some people are afraid. Some people tells themselves that they are not pedophiles (because they imagine a pedophile as guy raping children, who they are not). Some people have no reason to (they have already found information and learned ways how to live with pedophilia, they know the risks etc.)
As far as I know there is no way how to do that. Antiandrogens and castration can reduce the sex drive, but it doesn't remove it completely, it also often have serious side effects - hardly an option for most of the pedophiles (who don't have problems with self-control and can fulfill their sexual needs with masturbation like other people do when they don't have a partner).
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Why should I? I don't see a reason. Yes, I have a friend who is a pedophile, so what?! Pedophiles are people like everyone else, except being attracted to children instead of adults. I care about what they are like, what they do.
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I don't know if I can tell I am defending them here, but anyway - if they get attacked for no valid reason, I'll defend them. I just don't like when people attack someone based on prejudice. Also I think prejudices about pedophiles have negative effects on society, including for example taking actions that do more harm than good.
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Certainly it can, but some studies seems to contradict the hypothesis, that availability of child pornography increases prevalence of child sexual abuse, some suggest that it can actually decrease it. There seem to be a lot of studies about child pornography increasing the risk of sexually abusing a child in individual with bad methodology that can't be therefore considered reliable.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 111326.htm
If it's the study I think it is, then I definitely wouldn't consider it a proof, that availability of child pornography decreases prevalence of child pornography, but it can be seen as a proof, that some claims about child pornography strongly increasing risk of child sexual abuse are not correct.
Some people are afraid. Some people tells themselves that they are not pedophiles (because they imagine a pedophile as guy raping children, who they are not). Some people have no reason to (they have already found information and learned ways how to live with pedophilia, they know the risks etc.)
As far as I know there is no way how to do that. Antiandrogens and castration can reduce the sex drive, but it doesn't remove it completely, it also often have serious side effects - hardly an option for most of the pedophiles (who don't have problems with self-control and can fulfill their sexual needs with masturbation like other people do when they don't have a partner).
I have a friend who has special insights into the treatment of pedophiles, and he's told me that therapy has in fact been very successful. There is in fact less recidivism among treated pedophiles, he's told me, than there is among drug addicts. The one important factor for the therapy to work is the pedophile needs to honestly want to change.
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But is it focused on changing who is the person attracted to or to prevent pedophilic offenders from re-offense? I know there are treatment programs for pedophilic offenders focused of re-offense prevention and that they are quite effective, but they don't change the fact, that the person is attracted towards children.
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-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
But is it focused on changing who is the person attracted to or to prevent pedophilic offenders from re-offense? I know there are treatment programs for pedophilic offenders focused of re-offense prevention and that they are quite effective, but they don't change the fact, that the person is attracted towards children.
My friend has assured me this therapy is pretty effective. I'm just going by what someone with insights knows.
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