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17 Nov 2015, 8:03 pm

Another one bites the dust, Jindal has dropped out! 14 left
I am not sure where his votes would go, unlike Walker or Jeb, Jindal didn't really drop after Trump came in because his numbers were already very low to begin with. There is a slight drop from when Fiorina and Carson began their rise.

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17 Nov 2015, 8:07 pm

I don't even know what half the people in this race are even doing

Jim Gilmore, it's not going to happen man

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18 Nov 2015, 4:28 am

Elections are still a year away.

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27 Nov 2015, 11:29 pm

On the huffpollster it currently looks like this:
Trump is far away the frontrunner
Cruz, Rubio and now Carson are battling for second place
Bush is in his own area and should drop out as he continues to plummet towards the kids table
Christie, Fiorina, Paul, Kasich, and Huckabee are in the kids table and should drop out.
Graham, Pataki, Santorum, and Gilmore should just call it a day and drop out.
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pol ... ate=custom

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21 Dec 2015, 12:18 pm

The immature whinebag Graham has dropped out, his 100 supporters will go to Rubio, Fiorina, or Bush.
I hope South Carolina replaces him with a real conservative.

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21 Dec 2015, 4:23 pm

AntDog wrote:

The immature whinebag Graham has dropped out, his 100 supporters will go to Rubio, Fiorina, or Bush.
I hope South Carolina replaces him with a real conservative.

And thus ends the possibility - for now -of getting our first obviously gay President.

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21 Dec 2015, 5:06 pm

He's just festive.

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21 Dec 2015, 9:30 pm

GoonSquad wrote:

He's just festive.

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29 Dec 2015, 7:57 pm

Pataki has dropped out, his 100 remaining supporters will likely be voting democrat due to how liberal he is and because all the "because he's from my state" supporters of him left for Trump.

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29 Dec 2015, 11:27 pm

If it weren't for the fact he died over 30 years ago, I'd say John Heinz III. If it weren't for the fact Bush threw him under the bus, I'd say Gen. Colin Powell.

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30 Dec 2015, 1:38 am

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Trump isn't about policy, he's a manifestation of how much this country hates their elected officials. The base of the GOP despises the establishment of the Republican party almost as much they dislike Obama, the left wing is dissatisfied too as evidence by the growing Bernie Sanders insurgency and Hillary's plummeting poll numbers. People are angry and don't feel they have a voice, they're tired of empty suit weaklings that get led around by the nose by partisan politics, the media, and the powerful special interests. They want somebody that says what they believe and is willing the fight for it, they want somebody to tear down the Beltway establishment. Trump doesn't show them any respect and that's exactly what people like, he treats them the way the people think they deserve to be treated. They want somebody willing to speak truth to power, not be mucked down by any imaginary third rails as Trump has done this with immigration and Sanders is doing it by running openly as a socialist. They're not refining or diluting their message to appeal the greater masses, its just red meat all the time.

There are no candidates that represent me, Rand disappoints me to no end but I'll probably still vote for him if he's still in the race by the that time. I could just vote Libertarian again but that's just throwing your vote away, Gary Johnson will probably run again and I like him. I wish he ran as Republican in 2016 instead of 2012, he'd be a refreshing change of pace but he doesn't pass the GOP litmus test on a few issues and isn't enough of firebrand personally to gain the attention needed. I am not happy with where Rand is leading the Liberty movement, his pandering has diluted the message and ruined his appeal with moderates and independents after he had worked so hard at courting them. Gary Johnson should of been considered a credible candidate, a two term Republican governor of blue minority majority state but he was ignored.

I'm just sitting back and enjoying the spectacle of it, better to laugh than to cry. Trump may be riding a pale horse but maybe it's time anyway.

I agree with most of the key points here. I like to call the election "the puppet show" and try to make fun of everything that's going on. I like to tell jokes about the various candidates and muse about what might happen if I could get Trump and Sanders to sit down together for some whiskey, but sometimes it's hard not to feel sad for the fate that's in store for this country. I don't plan on voting for anybody this time, but Adam Kokesh announced that he's running in 2020 and even though I don't think he has any chance of getting elected, but I think I'll still vote for him.

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02 Feb 2016, 3:50 am

Huckabee drops out, his 2.2% of supporters will mostly go to Trump.

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02 Feb 2016, 4:08 pm

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Huckabee drops out, his 2.2% of supporters will mostly go to Trump.

Why not to Cruz, who is collecting fundies?

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02 Feb 2016, 4:33 pm

Because Huckabee has a bromance with Trump, the former often giving praise to the latter and he attended Trumps vet event. Unless Huckabee endorses Cruz many of his supporters will go to Trump.

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02 Feb 2016, 5:41 pm

Trump is more popular with Evangelicals than people assume, Cruz draws support from a number of factions not just socons too.

It will be interesting to see how this race winnows and who's supporters go where, there really doesn't seem to be a lot of room for growth for the establishment. Rubio got 23% the next closest establishment candidate was Jeb Bush at like 3%, it would be very foolish of them to start celebrating now with a closer than expect 3rd place finish. I'm not sure the other establishment candidates are ready to drop out either, they've all been making their own plays in different places. Christie and Kasich are much more heavily invested in New Hampshire than Rubio, now Rubio might overtake them with the momentum from Iowa or maybe not and they just split the vote.

The question is what happens with Cruz, is Cruz now seen as a legitimate candidate or will he follow the tradition of previous Iowa winners? It's hard to say, I do think this caucus probably played against Trump most more than a straight primary would, a caucus is a whole ordeal that I wouldn't want to deal with either.

South Carolina is going to be a real indicator of how this race is going to play out, Cruz needs to preform there as well as all the establishment candidates but Trump has been running strong in the south. Jeb Bush has a lot invested in South Carolina I think, if he's still in it then this might be an opening for him if Rubio hasn't stolen all the support he could get.

Trump not winning in Iowa basically extends this race, there is a battle at hand not a blowout.

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02 Feb 2016, 10:19 pm

Trump is HUGE in my area with the mega churches, and Michigan isn't exactly known for Bible Thumping Republicans.

I know Trump lost Iowa, but Cruz is such a freak show, no one I know would vote for him. The Trump supporters don't like Rubio either, though the Republicans are really shoving him their throats.

This whole slate is a heap of gross. Cruz is a wing nut, and Rubio isn't quite soup year. Trump makes the blur interesting, and Jeb can pack up his s**t and go home.

I don't think this Iowa win will be much of anything in the long run for Cruz.

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