Josh Duggar and Ashley Madison.

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You KNEW this was coming! YES Josh has been hiding in his house accessing porn sites, Ashley Madison and cheating on his wife Anna, who utterly adores him, at least publically, because he's just a man and he can't help it, apparently. It's part of being a man, so they rationalize.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/20/us/josh-d ... y-madison/

And now that he's been caught he's going to fall back on the "I'm terrible and have been a hypocrite!" rationale when really it would be great if he would just shush up already. He obviously cannot live up to the same standards he insists of others so just shush it already! No one really cares what he lives up to, except the law, I suppose.

I am growing highly suspicious that this is a lie. It is coming from unreliable sources like TMZ, E!, Entertainment tonight, Access hollywood, and other media shows. I don't think this is true, It might be something like a marketing ploy.

It came from CNN and Josh Duggar has publicly commented on it but it's reached the point it's what I expect from him and I just wish he would shush and quit trying to run people's lives with his Bible standards he can't live up to himself. I think he enjoys annoying everyone though. Overly religious Christians tend to enjoy that sort of thing. It really is a weird mindset.

Then you should stop watching those shows. CNN is more reliable, and less likely to cover a story just because it's about another celebrity cheating on his/her spouse.

So is the mind of Josh Duggar what you end up with if you have too many kids? Is he an example of what happens to the oldest child who must constantly make sacrifices for a seemingly endless parade of younger siblings? Did such a situation warp his outlook on life? No one ever bothered asking Josh Duggar the kind of reality he craved growing up. If he is like most kids, it was, likely, being the center of his parent's attention and simply being free to be a child without constantly worrying about setting an example or following a rigid set of Bible instructions day in and day out. So now Josh is going to do what Josh is going to do. He is going to act on that unfulfilled need now there's no parents telling him to do otherwise only he cannot openly discuss it because he is still at risk for intense scrutiny from severe Bibleholics.


These Quiverfull families will spend so much time judging all those who are not from Quiverfull families while thinking they are superior to the rest of us but now it might be time to take a look at the effects of growing up Quiverfull on vulnerable children. Is it the best possible environment?

Like any other fervently religious group the atmosphere and peer pressure demand that everyone have the affectation of being a true believer whether or not they actually feel it.

The more rigid and demanding the sect, the more you will find fakers, and the more you will find con men and manipulators in high positions.

Take warren jeffs, from the flds cult, who rapes young girls and boys and probably murdered his own father to take over the cult.

So true! And also, don't overlook the fact that they are on 'reality' shows, which rely on controversy to boost their ratings.

Apparently it didn't work because 19 Kids And Counting got cancelled by TLC.

This is just proof, nobody is immune to problems. People are always searching for that magic bullet. It doesn't exist! You can be from a close knit, rabidly Christian family and STILL be just as depraved as those who suffer neglect and grew up in a broken home. So quit the self righteous bs already. What matters is your life and what you are willing to do with it, not where you came from. Let go of the past and LIVE!

Even going back to the bible, the torah, and probably also the koran, those who are most prideful and boastful in their faith are typically also the most corrupt and most depraved.

Matthew 6:

Moreover, the self-loathing sinner is not just a cliche.

Frequently, those who protest immorality most loudly, are those already lost to the same proposed immorality.

It's ridiculous, this notion that you only stand for that which you can live up to lol.

Every person who cheats or lies or steals should espouse biblical standards publicly even if they sin privately, for the sake of society preserving a social standard. We're all human, we're going to make mistakes or intentionally engage in indecency, but we still need the guardrails that a shared social standard provides. And when these things come to light, we discount his opinions and move on but we don't drop the values he proselytizes simply because he couldn't live up to them lol. Cheating is still bad, even if the one evangelizing that message turns out to be a cheater.

And no, that's not hypocritical, unless when found out of their inconsistency, they make an exemption for themselves and why they should be given a pass from judgement that others are not exempted from. Hypocrisy isn't saying one thing and then doing another.

The Quiverfull - type Christians and their devotees would have you believe this lifestyle is antidote against a myriad of social ills that only plague those of us from broken homes or single parent families. Well, Josh, Duggar, you are proving that anyone can have problems regardless of their background. Minds are all equal opportunity for warping regardless of your origins and imprinting. Also, the challenges living in such a large family can be just as traumatic as those faced by children from broken homes.
It's all about family values with Quiverfulls and other family values oriented Christians. Those with family values can do no wrong. The rest of us are just lost, hopeless causes loathed by God, mocked by humanity. Their platform is, if everyone had family values, America would have no social ills and would be a perfect society where people are all good because the family is the only construct that can create good people. Their idea of family is one man, one woman, married forever and no cheating. This is what Josh Duggar experienced growing up, so by their rationale, he should be perfect, without any warping. He should be able to live an adultry free married life. There shouldn't be any lying or cheating. He should be devoted to his family and be able to live that way without ever feeling conflicted. Supposedly, that is what coming from a good family is supposed to create, this type of robotic individual who can go to work everyday, come home to their spouse, produce as many kids as possible, never think about cheating or lying.
It just goes to show it really IS up to the individual and what they are willing to realize about their life and how they are willing to live it. That is what really matters. Everything else is smoke and mirrors. BS and excuses. It's up to you and only you.

Now, in light of this and other scandals, Josh Duggar will be made out as being the sick, defective cog in the Duggar Machine only because he could never live like an automaton. He wanted attention from his parents. He wanted less competition for their love. He wanted to feel special and like he mattered. He wanted to be free to make mistakes and to not always expected to be some perfect being. He wanted to be allowed to voice his opinion, as in, you know what? I am tired of always having to deal with so many siblings. What about me? I deserve to be acknowledged. I am not just a grain of salt in the salt shaker. And because he could never be a Quiverfull Robot, he will be made out as the one with the problem when really, maybe this lifestyle simply isn't how he can live a happy life. Maybe it's just not for him. He will never be allowed to be true to who he is though, by acknowledging that he is miserable feeling he has to live that way.

If he wasn't a Christian, would you be gloating as much as you are now?

Name one person who hasn't ever screwed up in life. Just one person.

If he wasn't being judgmental and attempting to control others, it wouldn't bother me so much. If someone were talking about problems like they were acquaintances I would think, another married couple who can't live the married lifestyle. This is not an uncommon thing for me to think because I have seen so many people who simply cannot do it! And I don't penalize them or think they are evil because they cannot. I just think, poor people. For whatever reason, they cannot be who they truly are and if you are cheating on your husband/wife, then you are not being true to who you really are. You refuse to acknowledge that you hate being married and to me, that's the real sins, these lies people tell themselves. To me, cheating is an unspoken declaration that you hate being married. That's how I see it. Declarations can be unspoken, merely consisting of actions and as the cliche goes, actions speak louder than words. Judging from this latest revelation I can honestly acknowledge, Josh Duggar hates being married, or at least, he hates being stuck in the traditional marriage mold. The way I see it is, either redefine marriage or don't be married. I really hate it when married people cheat on each other. To me it's the lowest. I avoid them like the plague. I don't want to hear about some married guy's problem and how me, as a single person who is smart enough to know what I want, should feel it is my duty to listen to some guy unload all his crap. Married people who cheat like this and are miserable tend to have that attitude. Everyone should listen to their sad story, feel sorry for them, then have an affair with them to help console them. Please! I simply tell them, look, if you hate being married, don't be. Don't drag me into it because it's not my problem. You have to figure out what you need to be happy. They hate it when I tell them this, and I have told it to friends who are women complaining about their husbands. I am the last person to go to with marriage problems because I don't like the idea of being married to begin with. Saves me a lot of hassle because I don't have to listen to all their depressive confusion about their experiences blah. Makes my head spin thinking about it! Just know thyself, for pity's sake. Save yourself a lot of trouble.
It almost looks as if he wants others to all have to live that way so he won't feel as if he is the only one who is stuck and miserable and I get that same vibe from the Duggars, that they really wish everyone had as many kids as them so everyone would face the same difficulties and traumas that would bring so they won't feel like they are the outsiders or they made an error in judgment.
Misery loves company, in other words.

If anything comes of this, it should be the validation of the metaphor, "those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks." Josh Duggar had made a career of pointing an accusatory finger at those he deemed sexual sinners (namely the LGBT community), when he himself was guilty of his own sexual indiscretions. Then again, this sort of thing is hardly uncommon to evangelicals. Now, I'm just waiting for a homosexual scandal to come out involving Duggar.

A most astute observation, sir!I wonder how many of his on-line contacts were with men pretending to be women?

Give it time, sir ... give it time ...