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26 Aug 2016, 5:28 pm

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the American middle class self-righteously supports an abusive law enforcement establishment that hassles the lower classes.


I don't doubt it.

I'm wondering what that has to do with veteran. Do police officers who weren't veterans treat the lower classes substantially better?


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26 Aug 2016, 5:33 pm

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the American middle class self-righteously supports an abusive law enforcement establishment that hassles the lower classes.


I don't doubt it. I'm wondering what that has to do with veteran. Do police officers who weren't veterans treat the lower classes substantially better?

the people I talk to in my group would say that at least they would not likely be as prejudiced against us or suspicious/paranoid about our motives.



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26 Aug 2016, 10:19 pm

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In other words, not much different than people who spent their entire life as civilians.


Civilians aren't told over and over again that they're blameless heroes.


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27 Aug 2016, 12:45 pm

Brats who don't watch where they are going in the street because they are playing Pokemon Go should be hanged, drawn and quartered, slowly submerged feet first in boiling acid, subjected to Lingchi and scaphism, put in a Brazen bull and grounded for 2 full weeksrebuked for putting themselves and others at risk of traffic accidents...

f*****g jackass, dumbass as*holes...



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27 Aug 2016, 3:31 pm

I am anti-war, but pro-soldier. Need I say more?


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28 Aug 2016, 11:27 am

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In other words, not much different than people who spent their entire life as civilians.


Civilians aren't told over and over again that they're blameless heroes.


No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.


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28 Aug 2016, 11:34 am

XFilesGeek wrote:
MDD123 wrote:
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In other words, not much different than people who spent their entire life as civilians.


Civilians aren't told over and over again that they're blameless heroes.


No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.

So, all civilians are worthless and all soldiers are the greatest thing since sliced bread???



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28 Aug 2016, 12:08 pm

pcuser wrote:
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In other words, not much different than people who spent their entire life as civilians.


Civilians aren't told over and over again that they're blameless heroes.


No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.

So, all civilians are worthless and all soldiers are the greatest thing since sliced bread???


Feel free to quote me where I said anything of the sort.

Oh, and the military isn't just made-up of "soldiers."


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28 Aug 2016, 1:03 pm

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XFilesGeek wrote:
MDD123 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
In other words, not much different than people who spent their entire life as civilians.


Civilians aren't told over and over again that they're blameless heroes.


No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.

So, all civilians are worthless and all soldiers are the greatest thing since sliced bread???


Feel free to quote me where I said anything of the sort.

Oh, and the military isn't just made-up of "soldiers."

When you state "No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.", you are making the assertion that all civilians are as you portray them. That being thinking they're special and entitled not having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat. That sums up your opinion of civilians. Therefore my comment is clearly valid even if it makes you uncomfortable...



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28 Aug 2016, 1:19 pm

pcuser wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
pcuser wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
MDD123 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
In other words, not much different than people who spent their entire life as civilians.


Civilians aren't told over and over again that they're blameless heroes.


No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.

So, all civilians are worthless and all soldiers are the greatest thing since sliced bread???


Feel free to quote me where I said anything of the sort.

Oh, and the military isn't just made-up of "soldiers."

When you state "No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.", you are making the assertion that all civilians are as you portray them. That being thinking they're special and entitled not having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat. That sums up your opinion of civilians. Therefore my comment is clearly valid even if it makes you uncomfortable...


Nope.

Please quote me where I said civilians were "worthless" while soldiers are "great."


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28 Aug 2016, 2:50 pm

XFilesGeek wrote:
pcuser wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
pcuser wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
MDD123 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
In other words, not much different than people who spent their entire life as civilians.


Civilians aren't told over and over again that they're blameless heroes.


No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.

So, all civilians are worthless and all soldiers are the greatest thing since sliced bread???


Feel free to quote me where I said anything of the sort.

Oh, and the military isn't just made-up of "soldiers."

When you state "No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.", you are making the assertion that all civilians are as you portray them. That being thinking they're special and entitled not having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat. That sums up your opinion of civilians. Therefore my comment is clearly valid even if it makes you uncomfortable...


Nope.

Please quote me where I said civilians were "worthless" while soldiers are "great."

I clearly showed you saying civilians are worthless. By implication, you're saying that soldiers are better than civilians. Does that clear it up for you. Picky much???



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28 Aug 2016, 6:38 pm

would it possibly be better if all our pols were picked by lot?



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28 Aug 2016, 8:53 pm

XFilesGeek wrote:
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In other words, not much different than people who spent their entire life as civilians.


Civilians aren't told over and over again that they're blameless heroes.


No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.


You mean taxpayers? The people footing the bill to house, feed, and equip the entire military?


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29 Aug 2016, 12:07 pm

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I clearly showed you saying civilians are worthless. By implication, you're saying that soldiers are better than civilians. Does that clear it up for you. Picky much???


I say what I mean, and I mean what I say.

If I meant that "civilians are worthless," I would've said precisely that. If you choose to infer that from my words, that's your problem, but I'm not going to sit here and defend statements I never made.

Clearer much?


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29 Aug 2016, 12:08 pm

MDD123 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
MDD123 wrote:
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In other words, not much different than people who spent their entire life as civilians.


Civilians aren't told over and over again that they're blameless heroes.


No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.


You mean taxpayers? The people footing the bill to house, feed, and equip the entire military?


Yup.


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29 Aug 2016, 1:28 pm

pcuser wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
pcuser wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
pcuser wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
MDD123 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
In other words, not much different than people who spent their entire life as civilians.


Civilians aren't told over and over again that they're blameless heroes.


No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.

So, all civilians are worthless and all soldiers are the greatest thing since sliced bread???


Feel free to quote me where I said anything of the sort.

Oh, and the military isn't just made-up of "soldiers."

When you state "No, they just walk around thinking they're special and entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat.", you are making the assertion that all civilians are as you portray them. That being thinking they're special and entitled not having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat. That sums up your opinion of civilians. Therefore my comment is clearly valid even if it makes you uncomfortable...


Nope.

Please quote me where I said civilians were "worthless" while soldiers are "great."

I clearly showed you saying civilians are worthless. By implication, you're saying that soldiers are better than civilians. Does that clear it up for you. Picky much???


This is silly. Go back and read this:
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=305774&start=585#p7268648

What you see there is an approximate equation, not an inequality.

It looks like this: Military ≈ Civilians

Which has a totally different meaning than what you think you can read in later: Military > Civilians

The idea that civilians and soldiers are "entitled to things despite not actually having gone anywhere, done anything, or accomplished squat" is pretty much a cornerstone of modern western and global civilization.


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