Are most men struggling to get healthy weight women?

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23 Feb 2017, 2:13 pm

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That's pretty silly logic. Just because there are guys out there who are willing to have sex with anything, as long as it's breathes. Does not equate to autistic men having to settle for obese women.


Of course, it's not an exact equivalency. A neurotypical woman might be in the same "league" of an autistic man because she has a physical disability, is unemployed, is older, etc. The OP perhaps doesn't realize that having a social disability is in fact a very big deal to the women he wants to date. An NT woman would be "settling" for life with an autistic, whether she's fat or not.


Any NT dating an aspie is "settling" in your view?



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23 Feb 2017, 2:19 pm

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Any NT dating an aspie is "settling" in your view?


Any Aspie dating a fattie is "settling" in your view?



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23 Feb 2017, 2:28 pm

arielhawksquill wrote:
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That's pretty silly logic. Just because there are guys out there who are willing to have sex with anything, as long as it's breathes. Does not equate to autistic men having to settle for obese women.


Of course, it's not an exact equivalency. A neurotypical woman might be in the same "league" of an autistic man because she has a physical disability, is unemployed, is older, etc. The OP perhaps doesn't realize that having a social disability is in fact a very big deal to the women he wants to date. An NT woman would be "settling" for life with an autistic, whether she's fat or not.


OK, I have to pipe in here because of that last sentence. Just because someone is autistic, doesn't mean I wouldn't consider them for "Hunny" status. It would depend on if they fulfill my other wants - just like NT men would have to do.

Back with the OP, everyone knows that I love QVC so I know what sizes of clothes sell out first - those would be M and L which are equivalent to 10-14 (prob 160-185 lbs) which would lead me to believe that most US women are in this size range and I think I read that fact somewhere before. I think going by pounds is a bad idea especially if someone works out with weights.


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23 Feb 2017, 2:31 pm

arielhawksquill wrote:
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Any NT dating an aspie is "settling" in your view?


Any Aspie dating a fattie is "settling" in your view?


No. Any person who takes care of their own body, dating a fattie, would in a way be "settling" in my opinion.
Like a rich person dating a poor person would be settling. Or a non smoker dating a smoker.



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23 Feb 2017, 2:31 pm

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Yes, a lot of women are looking to make a "connection," someone they can relate to on a very personal level. Guys who can do this are often very successful at dating, even though they aren't wealthy, tall, or good looking.


This is true.


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23 Feb 2017, 2:36 pm

Closet Genious wrote:
arielhawksquill wrote:
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Any NT dating an aspie is "settling" in your view?


Any Aspie dating a fattie is "settling" in your view?


No. Any person who takes care of their own body, dating a fattie, would in a way be "settling" in my opinion.
Like a rich person dating a poor person would be settling. Or a non smoker dating a smoker.


This is true. It would be hard to be with someone who doesn't have somewhat of the same lifestyle as yourself. Everyone has their "wants" I guess. You just have to be able to live with the other person. I'm beginning to not like the word "settle".


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23 Feb 2017, 2:42 pm

nurseangela wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
arielhawksquill wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:

Any NT dating an aspie is "settling" in your view?


Any Aspie dating a fattie is "settling" in your view?


No. Any person who takes care of their own body, dating a fattie, would in a way be "settling" in my opinion.
Like a rich person dating a poor person would be settling. Or a non smoker dating a smoker.


This is true. It would be hard to be with someone who doesn't have somewhat of the same lifestyle as yourself. Everyone has their "wants" I guess. You just have to be able to live with the other person. I'm beginning to not like the word "settle".


Me neither, it has faint whiff of narcissism about it. It's more about finding someone you're compatible with.



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23 Feb 2017, 3:10 pm

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So you weigh 172, but a woman who weighs 175 is way too fat for you? Maybe you should make sure you yourself have a perfect body type before you decide women are un-datable if they weight even two more pounds than you.

Also it seems like the thing you value above all else when it comes to women is how much they weigh, or at least you are hyper-focusing on it which probably isn't helping. Lol if I had been such a stickler on weight I wouldn't have the awesome boyfriend I do.


He might be muscled with low fat; the weight info alone isn't to know whether he is obese or not.



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23 Feb 2017, 8:11 pm

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23 Feb 2017, 8:16 pm

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23 Feb 2017, 9:39 pm

Statistics say that there are more overweight women then men globally.

Not only this, but because men tend to be more likely to be interested in building muscular bodies while women who want to become fit are more interested in being lean and slim yet fit, this means a lot of muscular and athletic man are classed as 'overweight' and 'obese' even if they have low fat on their bodies.

This is because the system for measuring whether you're overweight or not, the BMI System, does NOT take into account the differences between weight in muscle and weight in fat.

If we take out the men that are 'overweight' due to being muscular or athletic, then the difference between overweight men and women is even greater.

Yes, I'm fine with dating a slightly overweight girl, a 1lb or 2 sort of overweight, but they're the exact opposite of my preference (very short, skinny girl with small breasts and flat ass).

I agree with you and have seen this is a common issue young men are complaining about nowadays.

Probably largely due to the fact there are more overweight young women (due to fatness/flab) than overweight young men due to fatness/flab instead of muscle.

Young adult men and women have very few reasons to be overweight because even if they have a busy work and study life and don't have time or energy to exercise, they can still control their diet and how much they eat, and that's all that's really needed to actually lose weight, exercise just helps this.

Of course, once you're middle aged and older you have slower metabolism, more joint problems, less free time than ever, etc. so people who are middle-aged often have very good reasons why they might have a lot of trouble losing weight or staying at a healthy weight.

Besides, the young men and women at college and with jobs who DO find the time to eat healthy and exercise can do it.

Keep in mind this is close to my goal body:

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I exercise five days a week.



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23 Feb 2017, 10:24 pm

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Like most HF Asperger men I have a difficult time meeting women as it is, as I have no social circle to meet or be introduced to women. I never made any friends during my latter HS, college and university years due to appearance-based bullying and/or shunning (125lbs, 5'9 and a face of a 14yo boy doesn't sit well for a 21yo man at the time; then sprinkle undiagnosed low level high functioning Aspergers on the top). Thus I adopted the 'lone wolf', "sod the lot of 'um!" persona and had to accept it. So all I ever had to rely on was online dating or meeting women through volunteer work or hobby groups. My work is all-male based Blue Collar, so there is no women at work. Every volunteer work I have undertaken, and every hobby club I have done (martial arts, photography. walking) the healthy weight girls are already taken, or they are retired women over 60, and the only few single women are obese. Obesity is not my thing, I can't help the way I'm wired. I tend to lose all attraction if a woman (of 5'2 > 5'6) tips over the 150lbs mark, or a BMI over 26, 26.5.

I'm now 172lbs, 5'10, with an average appearance. Look younger than my 39 years - somewhat neotenous face, black hair light pale skin. The main thing is I'm a healthy weight (17.5 > 18% bodyfat) and not really ugly in the face/skull... I don't think. I'm not an "ugly bloke" like say Toby Jones but nor am I anyway near the likes of the Jessie Pavelka's or Rav Wilding's of this world.

Anyway, my experiences have been pretty depressing with online dating. My reply rate is probably under 1%. That is for every 100 average women of healthy weights I send a message to, maybe just 1 has the courtesy to reply back (probably more like 1 in 150). This tends to lead to nowhere because I feel they are often rude, standoffish or are just leading me on to bolster their ego. There is no "Game" to win these women over, they aren't pets than be 'tricked' into liking you, they simply have better looking guys holing them up from another browser. I never get messaged from a healthy weight woman, that is they never contact me first. On those rare occasions when a woman does contact me first (about one every 2 months I'm active) they are always very overweight women, i.e. 175lbs+, 200lbs, 250lbs. They dangle me a carrot, but big women/BBW is just not my thing and I don't message them back.

I think I know what is going on in a nutshell. For a start there is perhaps only 18 female profiles per 50 male profiles on most -- if not all-- dating sites. Then we could say that at least half of those 18 females are too overfat for the majority of men like myself, so we have about 8 or 9 healthy weight female profiles created per 50 male profiles created.

So any healthy weight/slim woman with an average face (or even below average face) gets inundated with hundreds of prospective suitors a month in her inbox. Women of healthy weights know they can use their healthy bodies as 'bait' (with seductive full body pics) to lure a male of higher genetic worth than herself (i.e. better looking than her) in outright lieu of ignoring, rejecting or even abusing average men of healthy weights in her own objective league.

So. No single healthy weight women in my real world (they are all taken) and online dating makes me feel like worthless ugly s**t.

Any guys going through the same stuff?


Well I'm sure those overweight women who can't get the men they want, also feel like "worthless ugly sh**t". But people are attracted to what they are attracted to, and aren't attracted to what they aren't attracted to, and that's ok.

As you want a healthy weight woman, have you ever considered trying to meet women who play sports or engage in some sort of physical activity like hiking, biking, and so on?



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23 Feb 2017, 10:27 pm

I'm struggling to get a healthy weight.



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23 Feb 2017, 11:49 pm

I didn't even know this was a thing. Shame most people don't go to the gym though, it's pretty fun when you get going properly. I started on spin classes and lost a crap ton of weight doing that. Adrenaline rush is fun too.

Maybe you could get with a chub girl then train her to get skinny since most girls want to actually be slim anyway?

You know that mental case Freelee the banana girl got trained by her mental bf cause before she was pretty chub, as an example. Could be worth thinking about, plus there's loads of work for personal trainers apparently.


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24 Feb 2017, 1:22 am

Imagine that 90% of men suddenly become shorter than all women.
I am sure then most women would compete fiercely over the remaining 10% and would express frustration maybe even worse than the OP.



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24 Feb 2017, 1:31 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Imagine that 90% of men suddenly become shorter than all women.
I am sure then most women would compete fiercely over the remaining 10% and would express frustration maybe even worse than the OP.


I didn't even know height was a thing. xD
My ex was shorter than me, haha.


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