AS boyfriend disappearing on me for a long time

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16 May 2017, 10:24 pm

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Considering I'm trying to stop 'untethering', I find myself disappearing for pretty significant amounts of time regardless because it takes energy to fully consider someone's needs & boundaries. I find myself lucky about being open with my HFA & a few girls in my life. I'm still not sure they know how loyal that keeps me.


I'm sorry I didn't understand what you mean. English is not mu first language so maybe it's that.
Do you mean that disappearing for a long time keeps you loyal? How does that work?

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Most people with AS have to let others go so often that doing otherwise is cause for serious caution. I would be rather cranky & ungrounded all the time if I had to just stop loving someone just because I'm not around them.


I didn't understand this either.. how would someone "have to" stop loving someone? Why AS people have to let others go as often?
And how doing otherwise is cause for caution?

Sorry, it's probably just my English but I don't get it.. :S


Well I think it's surprising to us when people stay in our lives sometimes & we feel subject to a lot of social anxiety from doubts that we've been seriously accepted. While I'm not sure it applies for everyone I think time alone reflects a lot of thoughts toward others.


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16 May 2017, 10:33 pm

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Well I think it's surprising to us when people stay in our lives sometimes & we feel subject to a lot of social anxiety from doubts that we've been seriously accepted. While I'm not sure it applies for everyone I think time alone reflects a lot of thoughts toward others.


I see. Well I have to admit that almost every time I have told him I want him in my life and that he means a lot to me, he reacts with an expression of disbelief.. So you might be right about this. How could someone convince you that they actually do want you in their life, especially if you've gone into disappearing mode, then? Would it be more by leaving you alone and letting you work it out by yourself or would you need some kind of reminders and reassurance from time to time?

I am aware that not every aspie is not the same of course, just trying to see different perspectives in the hope that I will eventually understand how his brain works..

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17 May 2017, 11:54 am

TBH I just told her to ask. It's fully apparent to me that no one expects me to text them & so it must have been strange when I sent the one message asking for reasons to turn off my laptop & skip a meeting, never mind the overwhelming likelihood that conversation will just be picked up in person.

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24 May 2017, 10:47 am

Just to update you all.. I think it's clear it's over now. Not only he hasn't contacted me in almost 2 months, I sent him an email last week asking if he'd like to see me because I had some time to go visit him. He hasn't replied. And I actually learned from a common friend that he is here, in my city today and for a few days and he hasn't told me.

So yeah, I think that kinda clears it up for me. He just doesn't care. He doesn't even care enough to give me some answers. Oh well..
I guess I have to move on. :(

I am devastated, mostly because of his behavior that is not respectful at all. I've always tried to be understanding towards him and certainly I don't deserve this kind of treatment. I don't know if this can be explained by his aspieness or not, but I think that if his feelings hadn't changed, as he said, he wouldn't behave like this.

That's so sad, I really love him. :(



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24 May 2017, 1:01 pm

Sometimes the planet is too small not to share, just my experience. :|


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24 May 2017, 1:51 pm

Just shows once more that this kind of behavior (disappearing) means they are not serious about it or think of it like a friendship only. I don't think there is any reason at all to tolerate that kind of thing (from a partner), and especially not if he/she is aspie/neurodiverse.



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24 May 2017, 5:13 pm

I'm sorry it happened but I'm I'm glad you realize it's over OP. I hope this doesn't tarnish your opinion of Aspie guys cuz there's plenty of us who are not like that. Sometimes our partners become our special interests(mine is) & some of us(like me) know how difficult it is to find somebody so we do everything we can to try & make a relationship work.


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24 May 2017, 6:03 pm

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Just shows once more that this kind of behavior (disappearing) means they are not serious about it or think of it like a friendship only. I don't think there is any reason at all to tolerate that kind of thing (from a partner), and especially not if he/she is aspie/neurodiverse.


Please don't say he's not serious. We've been together for more than 3 years and this has never happened before. He's always been serious about it and he has proved it. I don't know what happened now and how his feelings changed and why he won't admit it. He's having a huge crisis, I know that but it has been very serious between us for a long time and that's what hurts me more.

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I'm sorry it happened but I'm I'm glad you realize it's over OP. I hope this doesn't tarnish your opinion of Aspie guys cuz there's plenty of us who are not like that. Sometimes our partners become our special interests(mine is) & some of us(like me) know how difficult it is to find somebody so we do everything we can to try & make a relationship work.


I don't judge a group of people based on one person, don't worry. Moreover, I don't judge him badly anyway, I know he has been suffering, I just wish he would be able to talk to me about how he feels and not avoid me like this. I think he has sabotaged himself our relationship because of different issues/insecurities/fears and that is very sad. But he is overall a nice person, I know that and that makes it even worse. I am really hurting but I don't have bad feelings towards him. Just a huge WHY. Why won't he talk to me? Oh well, I probably won't have an answer any time soon.



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24 May 2017, 6:55 pm

I wouldn't see any problem with asking that other friend some of the same questions. However much you follow up is your call though I also strongly encourage it.


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24 May 2017, 7:23 pm

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I wouldn't see any problem with asking that other friend some of the same questions. However much you follow up is your call though I also strongly encourage it.

I would love to ask those questions, believe me, I want to understand as much of it as I can. But I hesitate. This friend (as well as mostly all of our common friends) were initially his friends that I met through him. So I'm not sure it's my place to ask for answers. I don't think it will be very appreciated by anyone. :?



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24 May 2017, 7:27 pm

Still I see no trouble in letting them know what's going on.


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25 May 2017, 2:38 am

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Still I see no trouble in letting them know what's going on.


I'm just not sure it will be well-received by them, that's all. But well, I'll think about how I could go about it. :?
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26 May 2017, 4:21 am

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Please don't say he's not serious. We've been together for more than 3 years and this has never happened before. He's always been serious about it and he has proved it. I don't know what happened now and how his feelings changed and why he won't admit it. He's having a huge crisis, I know that but it has been very serious between us for a long time and that's what hurts me more.


I read your complete initial post now, so I can come with a little more detailed answer. Yes, stress can certainly make us withdraw from communication with the rest of the world, but, in my experience, I would still communicate with a gf or love interest. She would be the last one I cut off communications with, and then it would be really bad. Still, I can disappear and/or make myself impossible to contact for a few hours and have done so in the past, but not for weeks or months.

Also, since your relationship is over 3 years long, I very much doubt that infatuation plays any role for him anymore. For me, infatuations will end no later than after 2-3 years, and if I don't have a strong attachment at that point, I will "fall" out of love, and then might show the precise behaviour he does to you now. So, he is probably aware of what he has promised you, but if he doesn't have a strong attachment to you at this point, he will have to work on keeping in contact, which he shouldn't need to do otherwise. This could also be the cause for some of his current self-doubt and contribute to his stress.



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I read your complete initial post now, so I can come with a little more detailed answer. Yes, stress can certainly make us withdraw from communication with the rest of the world, but, in my experience, I would still communicate with a gf or love interest. She would be the last one I cut off communications with, and then it would be really bad. Still, I can disappear and/or make myself impossible to contact for a few hours and have done so in the past, but not for weeks or months.

Also, since your relationship is over 3 years long, I very much doubt that infatuation plays any role for him anymore. For me, infatuations will end no later than after 2-3 years, and if I don't have a strong attachment at that point, I will "fall" out of love, and then might show the precise behaviour he does to you now. So, he is probably aware of what he has promised you, but if he doesn't have a strong attachment to you at this point, he will have to work on keeping in contact, which he shouldn't need to do otherwise. This could also be the cause for some of his current self-doubt and contribute to his stress.


Thanks for taking a bit more time for me. That somehow makes more sense but still.. Why, when I asked him he would say his feelings haven't changed and that he's still in love with me? Could he be just lying? Why couldn't he say "I don't know" since he already had told me he is very confused and lost etc?

Also, in the past he has been with a girl for 7 years. During our relationship he told me a few times that he loves me more than all his girlfriends. When I jokingly doubted that, saying that this is not possible, he was with someone for 7 years, he said very seriously that he is sure and he knows what he's talking about. He has always told me how he loves me for being smart and understanding and nice and open-minded and a million other things. Last summer, for a moment we thought I might be pregnant. He told me he would be happy if I wanted to keep the baby.

I went back to our message history and I saw that until January - mid February, despite some periods of disappearing - about a week long or so but not very often, he was still loving and nice and he would say it and show it. He really disappeared after my freaked-out message. Is it possible that just a message would make him just stop being in love? I mean, from what I said before doesn't it seem that he did have an attachment to me? How does that go away like that?

Finally, I'd like to add that before he started this whole thing (it was around September I think) he had told me that he didn't want to base his life too much on me because he had done this with his 7-year relationship and when she left him, he found himself in a very bad situation and he didn't want to go there again if I left him.. Could that be a reason why he started disappearing? Does that change anything in your view?

Sorry to ask so many questions. Just the fact that he came here and didn't tell me is killing me. It does not sound like him at all, I don't get it. :(



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26 May 2017, 6:15 am

One more question for all of you, if you can.
How can I get an answer out of him? I need to get him to tell me he doesn't love me anymore if I don't want to go crazy. I feel I'm losing my mind over this and I can't move on if I don't have a clear answer.



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26 May 2017, 6:18 am

xaroula wrote:
Thanks for taking a bit more time for me. That somehow makes more sense but still.. Why, when I asked him he would say his feelings haven't changed and that he's still in love with me? Could he be just lying? Why couldn't he say "I don't know" since he already had told me he is very confused and lost etc?


Naturally, I don't know him, but I go on auto-pilot with that kind of things. A while ago, wife heard (she is aspie too) that couples should exchange "I love you" and similar things regularly, but I'm afraid that I very quickly learnt how to say and respond to that more or less automatically, and so it all lost meaning. My guess is that he might have learnt to handle that just like small-talk too, with automated answers. That's why I always claim you cannot go by that with us. We like to show our affection with actions, not words, so it is in actions you should seek that information, not in words.

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Also, in the past he has been with a girl for 7 years. During our relationship he told me a few times that he loves me more than all his girlfriends. When I jokingly doubted that, saying that this is not possible, he was with someone for 7 years, he said very seriously that he is sure and he knows what he's talking about. He has always told me how he loves me for being smart and understanding and nice and open-minded and a million other things. Last summer, for a moment we thought I might be pregnant. He told me he would be happy if I wanted to keep the baby.


OK, so he was in an LTR and got deserted. That can do a lot of bad things for aspies (and others too).

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I went back to our message history and I saw that until January - mid February, despite some periods of disappearing - about a week long or so but not very often, he was still loving and nice and he would say it and show it. He really disappeared after my freaked-out message. Is it possible that just a message would make him just stop being in love? I mean, from what I said before doesn't it seem that he did have an attachment to me? How does that go away like that?


It could be that your message reminded him of the breakup, and so he went into defence mode not to get hurt again. However, if that is the case, then he really does still love you but is afraid of another painful breakup.

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Finally, I'd like to add that before he started this whole thing (it was around September I think) he had told me that he didn't want to base his life too much on me because he had done this with his 7-year relationship and when she left him, he found himself in a very bad situation and he didn't want to go there again if I left him.. Could that be a reason why he started disappearing? Does that change anything in your view?


Yes, definitely. It adds to the evidence that he wants to avoid another painful breakup, and so he thinks that he can avoid that by withdrawing.

Do you know if he still has feelings for his ex, and how hard he actually took the breakup? I think that would be informative.