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08 Jun 2017, 4:51 pm

Having had the TV on for some of it and CNN's rehash of it being on in the background now , I heart inaugurate this as the thread for discussing the controversy over James Comey's testimony to Congress and all it relates to ! :D
Okay , I am not very pro-Trump in this - perhaps those more thusly inclined could put up a link to Murdoch's New York Post, say .


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08 Jun 2017, 9:14 pm

I'm not too sure what to make of it. The main issue out of it seems to be is the president guilty of trying to impede justice? It kind of seems like there's a lot more conjecturing and implying that he did, then would be the case if he had clearly done so.



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08 Jun 2017, 9:16 pm

It was a huge bust and Comey came out looking both incompetent and untrustworthy.



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08 Jun 2017, 9:18 pm

Jacoby wrote:
It was a huge bust and Comey came out looking both incompetent and untrustworthy.


Not according to Dianne Feinstein it would seem:



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08 Jun 2017, 9:24 pm

It was merely a rehash of information we already know. I didn't watch much of it, I had tasks to complete, but the best part was McCain attempting to ask leading questions and losing his train of thought, priceless.



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08 Jun 2017, 9:36 pm

I've only caught bits of it. I usually wait for reviews and highlights rather than sit though hours of testimony. I did watch the McCain segment though and to me it confirms what I said a few months ago that he should retire. I don't mean this out of disrespect, but I think some of these politicians who are in their 80's or close to it, have been in office way too long. I think there should be term limits.



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08 Jun 2017, 9:42 pm

EzraS wrote:
I've only caught bits of it. I usually wait for reviews and highlights rather than sit though hours of testimony. I did watch the McCain segment though and to me it confirms what I said a few months ago that he should retire. I don't mean this out of disrespect, but I think some of these politicians who are in their 80's or close to it, have been in office way too long. I think there should be term limits.


For congress, it's unlimited 2 and 6 years terms. But yes, McCain should retire and tons more... I didn't watch all of it, as I had to work so they could have a salary.

EDIT: 6 not 4, thanks @Aristophanes for pointing that out.



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08 Jun 2017, 10:47 pm

SH90 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I've only caught bits of it. I usually wait for reviews and highlights rather than sit though hours of testimony. I did watch the McCain segment though and to me it confirms what I said a few months ago that he should retire. I don't mean this out of disrespect, but I think some of these politicians who are in their 80's or close to it, have been in office way too long. I think there should be term limits.


For congress, it's unlimited 2 and 4 years terms. But yes, McCain should retire and tons more... I didn't watch all of it, as I had to work so they could have a salary.

2 and 6, but yeah, no term limits. The supreme court is worse, that's a lifetime appointment, which might not have seemed like much in the late 1700's, but now that people consistently live into their late 70's and beyond it's an issue as far as I'm concerned.



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08 Jun 2017, 10:50 pm

Aristophanes wrote:
SH90 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I've only caught bits of it. I usually wait for reviews and highlights rather than sit though hours of testimony. I did watch the McCain segment though and to me it confirms what I said a few months ago that he should retire. I don't mean this out of disrespect, but I think some of these politicians who are in their 80's or close to it, have been in office way too long. I think there should be term limits.


For congress, it's unlimited 2 and 4 years terms. But yes, McCain should retire and tons more... I didn't watch all of it, as I had to work so they could have a salary.

2 and 6, but yeah, no term limits. The supreme court is worse, that's a lifetime appointment, which might not have seemed like much in the late 1700's, but now that people consistently live into their late 70's and beyond it's an issue as far as I'm concerned.


Ahh, yes I met 6... I thought 6 and hit 4, hate it when that happens.



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08 Jun 2017, 11:00 pm

SH90 wrote:
Aristophanes wrote:
SH90 wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I've only caught bits of it. I usually wait for reviews and highlights rather than sit though hours of testimony. I did watch the McCain segment though and to me it confirms what I said a few months ago that he should retire. I don't mean this out of disrespect, but I think some of these politicians who are in their 80's or close to it, have been in office way too long. I think there should be term limits.


For congress, it's unlimited 2 and 4 years terms. But yes, McCain should retire and tons more... I didn't watch all of it, as I had to work so they could have a salary.

2 and 6, but yeah, no term limits. The supreme court is worse, that's a lifetime appointment, which might not have seemed like much in the late 1700's, but now that people consistently live into their late 70's and beyond it's an issue as far as I'm concerned.


Ahh, yes I met 6... I thought 6 and hit 4, hate it when that happens.

I realized after I posted that I looked like an asshat for the correction, it's my aspie coming out. :wink:



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08 Jun 2017, 11:09 pm

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I realized after I posted that I looked like an asshat for the correction, it's my aspie coming out. :wink:


Absolutely not, it was completely appropriate to correct my typographical error.



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08 Jun 2017, 11:47 pm

EzraS wrote:
I'm not too sure what to make of it. The main issue out of it seems to be is the president guilty of trying to impede justice? It kind of seems like there's a lot more conjecturing and implying that he did, then would be the case if he had clearly done so.


Trump asked Comey to stop the criminal investigation of Flynn, then fired him when he would not. Seems pretty simple to me.


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08 Jun 2017, 11:52 pm

Jacoby wrote:
It was a huge bust and Comey came out looking both incompetent and untrustworthy.


Why is he untrustworthy? Because he refused to swear loyalty to Trump? Because he's answered Congress' suppenna to testify?


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09 Jun 2017, 12:27 am

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Absolutely not, it was completely appropriate to correct my typographical error.


Just make sure you don't ever spell President "Presisent". That might make headlines :lol:



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09 Jun 2017, 12:27 am

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EzraS wrote:
I'm not too sure what to make of it. The main issue out of it seems to be is the president guilty of trying to impede justice? It kind of seems like there's a lot more conjecturing and implying that he did, then would be the case if he had clearly done so.


Trump asked Comey to stop the criminal investigation of Flynn, then fired him when he would not. Seems pretty simple to me.


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The President then returned to the topic of Mike Flynn, saying, “He is a
good guy and has been through a lot.” He repeated that Flynn hadn’t done
anything wrong on his calls with the Russians, but had misled the Vice President.
He then said, “I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn
go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.” I replied only that “he is a good
guy.” (In fact, I had a positive experience dealing with Mike Flynn when he was a
colleague as Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency at the beginning of my
term at FBI.)


That's completely different from "stop the investigation." Also the FBI concluded no wrongdoing by Flynn.



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09 Jun 2017, 12:29 am