CNN: Execs to Review All Russia Stories After Retraction

Page 2 of 6 [ 96 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next

friedmacguffins
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 10 Feb 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,539

02 Jul 2017, 7:25 am

jrjones9933 wrote:
Having high editorial standards, and removing employees who violate them points to responsible journalism. Why is this story being spun as evidence of a problem? It's evidence of problem solving.

The political administration, and advertising company, have thrown their mouthpieces, under the bus.

I guess, these people could have been re-purposed to say something useful or nice, put on a new face (pun intended) without ruining their credibility.

But, it was like a soap opera or media production, where some phony character is written out of the script.

Most people are not asking any intelligent questions, about what should replace them. What would be the new narrative or political dynamic, now that this is a done, dead horse.



Lintar
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Nov 2012
Age: 56
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,777
Location: Victoria, Australia

10 Jul 2017, 9:42 pm

Darmok wrote:
I think my mp3 player has been hacked by the Russians. I was typing on the computer, with the mp3 player on the table next to me, and then all of a sudden it just lit up, all by itself. 8O


Your house is haunted. You need to call GhostBusters.



Lintar
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Nov 2012
Age: 56
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,777
Location: Victoria, Australia

10 Jul 2017, 9:46 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
friedmacguffins wrote:
If you weren't reviewing your cable subscription, a long time before, there is nothing more I can say to fix you. Please go sit in the corner.

But, if you have followed this cheesy soap opera for long enough, you would remember that Hillary had first threatened Russia, over Server-gate.

:jester: Could you also retract the crisis actors, who could not stay in character, and the really bad (like, Rocky and Bullwinkle bad) surnames. There is a saying about 'central casting.' It might have been an improvement, over improv. Bang, ding, ow.


Clinton was just supposed to let Russian attempts to derail her go unanswered?


She derailed herself. Don't blame "the Russians"! What she did to Bernie was utterly despicable. The Democrats only have themselves to blame for allowing Trump to become the President, but instead of using his victory to engage in some well-overdue soul-searching, they have decided to live in denial and smear all things Russian. Everything is someone else's fault, never their own.



Kraichgauer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 47,796
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.

10 Jul 2017, 10:27 pm

Lintar wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
friedmacguffins wrote:
If you weren't reviewing your cable subscription, a long time before, there is nothing more I can say to fix you. Please go sit in the corner.

But, if you have followed this cheesy soap opera for long enough, you would remember that Hillary had first threatened Russia, over Server-gate.

:jester: Could you also retract the crisis actors, who could not stay in character, and the really bad (like, Rocky and Bullwinkle bad) surnames. There is a saying about 'central casting.' It might have been an improvement, over improv. Bang, ding, ow.


Clinton was just supposed to let Russian attempts to derail her go unanswered?


She derailed herself. Don't blame "the Russians"! What she did to Bernie was utterly despicable. The Democrats only have themselves to blame for allowing Trump to become the President, but instead of using his victory to engage in some well-overdue soul-searching, they have decided to live in denial and smear all things Russian. Everything is someone else's fault, never their own.


Sure, what she did to Bernie was despicable, but the associations the Russians had with Trump's underlings (Manifort, Flynn, Sessions, Prince, even Donny Jr), which they have all tried to initially deny, can not be written off. The fact that they have tried hiding these meetings with the Russians reveals a consciousness of guilt.


_________________
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


cyberdad
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Age: 56
Gender: Male
Posts: 34,284

11 Jul 2017, 4:41 am

What happened to Trump Jnr's secret meeting with a Russian lawyer (linked to Putin) in order to dig up dirt on Hillary Clinton?
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-t ... ?r=AU&IR=T



Kraichgauer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 47,796
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.

11 Jul 2017, 5:05 am

cyberdad wrote:
What happened to Trump Jnr's secret meeting with a Russian lawyer (linked to Putin) in order to dig up dirt on Hillary Clinton?
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-t ... ?r=AU&IR=T


That's the million dollar question. It's amazing that Donny jr is even admitting to the meeting even having taken place, albeit denial on his part that anything was accomplished for his daddy's victory. Thing about being a liar is, the more said liar lies, the deeper he or she will end up in trouble.


_________________
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


LoveNotHate
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Oct 2013
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,195
Location: USA

11 Jul 2017, 9:31 am

The fake Russian news is good in one respect.

Like McCarthyism, it implants in people's minds that Socialism/Communism are evil.



Kraichgauer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 47,796
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.

11 Jul 2017, 2:10 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
The fake Russian news is good in one respect.

Like McCarthyism, it implants in people's minds that Socialism/Communism are evil.


Praising McCarthyism, huh? Are you aware how it ruined the lives of thousands of people? And no, they didn't deserve to have that happen to them.


_________________
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


jrjones9933
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 May 2011
Age: 55
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,144
Location: The end of the northwest passage

11 Jul 2017, 2:45 pm

Looking at Russia today, I'd hope for more people to recognize that plutocratic fascism with a capitalist face is the latest threat to freedom worldwide. Also looking at China and the Philippines. Also Venezuela, South Korea and Japan to be fair. I really could type a long list..


_________________
"I find that the best way [to increase self-confidence] is to lie to yourself about who you are, what you've done, and where you're going." - Richard Ayoade


Kraichgauer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 47,796
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.

11 Jul 2017, 2:49 pm

jrjones9933 wrote:
Looking at Russia today, I'd hope for more people to recognize that plutocratic fascism with a capitalist face is the latest threat to freedom worldwide. Also looking at China and the Philippines. Also Venezuela, South Korea and Japan to be fair. I really could type a long list..


You are absolutely correct. And more and more conservatives, who might have otherwise opposed the new fascism, are now inclined to embrace it, because it overtly walks hand-in-hand with capitalism.


_________________
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


cyberdad
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Feb 2011
Age: 56
Gender: Male
Posts: 34,284

11 Jul 2017, 6:05 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
jrjones9933 wrote:
Looking at Russia today, I'd hope for more people to recognize that plutocratic fascism with a capitalist face is the latest threat to freedom worldwide. Also looking at China and the Philippines. Also Venezuela, South Korea and Japan to be fair. I really could type a long list..


You are absolutely correct. And more and more conservatives, who might have otherwise opposed the new fascism, are now inclined to embrace it, because it overtly walks hand-in-hand with capitalism.


A temporary marriage of convenience...I think Plato predicted 2400 years ago that societies evolve and transform through stages and fascism (as it's rearing it's ugly head around the world) will not be sustainable as you can't continually blame others forever and have stable governance.



Lintar
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Nov 2012
Age: 56
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,777
Location: Victoria, Australia

14 Jul 2017, 10:55 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
The fake Russian news is good in one respect.

Like McCarthyism, it implants in people's minds that Socialism/Communism are evil.


Do you actually know anything at all about either economic system? Conflating the two, as you do here, tells me you don't.

I also don't see the connection between "fake Russian news" and how "it implants in people's minds" ideas about socialism and communism. Neither the U.S. nor Russia is either socialistic or communistic in any way, shape or form, so where is the logic in your reasoning? How do you connect the two here?



LoveNotHate
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Oct 2013
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,195
Location: USA

15 Jul 2017, 1:24 pm

Lintar wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
The fake Russian news is good in one respect.

Like McCarthyism, it implants in people's minds that Socialism/Communism are evil.


Do you actually know anything at all about either economic system? Conflating the two, as you do here, tells me you don't.

I also don't see the connection between "fake Russian news" and how "it implants in people's minds" ideas about socialism and communism. Neither the U.S. nor Russia is either socialistic or communistic in any way, shape or form, so where is the logic in your reasoning? How do you connect the two here?

We have long feared the influence of Socialist and Communist ideas.

They threaten the "land of the free".

Russia/China/Europe all represent a danger, because their ideas might corrupt impressionable minds.

The fear is that Trump's connection to Putin means he would actually implement some Socialist or Communist idea.

This is what American news is reporting.



Kraichgauer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 47,796
Location: Spokane area, Washington state.

15 Jul 2017, 3:40 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Lintar wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
The fake Russian news is good in one respect.

Like McCarthyism, it implants in people's minds that Socialism/Communism are evil.


Do you actually know anything at all about either economic system? Conflating the two, as you do here, tells me you don't.

I also don't see the connection between "fake Russian news" and how "it implants in people's minds" ideas about socialism and communism. Neither the U.S. nor Russia is either socialistic or communistic in any way, shape or form, so where is the logic in your reasoning? How do you connect the two here?

We have long feared the influence of Socialist and Communist ideas.

They threaten the "land of the free".

Russia/China/Europe all represent a danger, because their ideas might corrupt impressionable minds.

The fear is that Trump's connection to Putin means he would actually implement some Socialist or Communist idea.

This is what American news is reporting.


While Putin had once served a communist regime when he was in the KGB, he himself is anything but a communist. He represents a capitalistic gangsterism that has since taken over in Russia. Putin isn't interested in sowing the seeds of communism or socialism, but in growing other strongmen who will cooperate with him.


_________________
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


LoveNotHate
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Oct 2013
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,195
Location: USA

15 Jul 2017, 5:22 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Lintar wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
The fake Russian news is good in one respect.

Like McCarthyism, it implants in people's minds that Socialism/Communism are evil.


Do you actually know anything at all about either economic system? Conflating the two, as you do here, tells me you don't.

I also don't see the connection between "fake Russian news" and how "it implants in people's minds" ideas about socialism and communism. Neither the U.S. nor Russia is either socialistic or communistic in any way, shape or form, so where is the logic in your reasoning? How do you connect the two here?

We have long feared the influence of Socialist and Communist ideas.

They threaten the "land of the free".

Russia/China/Europe all represent a danger, because their ideas might corrupt impressionable minds.

The fear is that Trump's connection to Putin means he would actually implement some Socialist or Communist idea.

This is what American news is reporting.


While Putin had once served a communist regime when he was in the KGB, he himself is anything but a communist. He represents a capitalistic gangsterism that has since taken over in Russia. Putin isn't interested in sowing the seeds of communism or socialism, but in growing other strongmen who will cooperate with him.

Americans don't know what's going on in Russia.

Their fear is that evil Communist Putin might influence Trump.



jrjones9933
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 May 2011
Age: 55
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,144
Location: The end of the northwest passage

15 Jul 2017, 5:52 pm

Putin's aggression against Russians and failed attempts at rigging the Russian elections show his weakness. It's still illegal to be a pathetically bad thief.


_________________
"I find that the best way [to increase self-confidence] is to lie to yourself about who you are, what you've done, and where you're going." - Richard Ayoade