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12 Jul 2017, 5:30 am

in terms of honesty, I put military recruiters on the same level as pols and used car salesman.



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12 Jul 2017, 5:33 am

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We might all be better off if the counterculture had never happened. Consider how the lifestyle depicted in Easy Rider was championed, then think what most likely happened to anybody who chose to embrace that lifestyle in a serious way, rather than just a pose. Maybe we'd all be better off if we'd just continued to put on a tie every morning and go to work.

the counterculture already happened in stages, coming to a head first with the beatniks as a dress-rehearsal for the hippies. almost all cultures with any degree of widespread personal autonomy will have a durable quasi-bohemian subculture. it was bound to happen here also.



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12 Jul 2017, 6:01 am

Why assume all who want have jobs to go to would jobs to go to?

We might be listining to synth big band music and autotuned crooners.

Probably a lot less divorce and drugs that would be good.

No autism rights/neurodiverse movement as the template for the movement would not exist. However maybe no emphasis on feelings and group activities if the Woodstock generation was not the woodstock generation when they gained control.


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12 Jul 2017, 6:25 am

I wish we had developed along the lines of Europe after the war.



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12 Jul 2017, 7:18 am

auntblabby wrote:
I wish we had developed along the lines of Europe after the war.
You have to remember that the war was actually FOUGHT in Europe. During the decades that Europe spent recovering, the US was on a tear economically. This explains why what you wish would never have happened.


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12 Jul 2017, 7:24 am

auntblabby wrote:
in terms of honesty, I put military recruiters on the same level as pols and used car salesman.

Yup.When they started calling for my son one actually had the gall to tell me if he enlisted they wouldn't deploy him overseas.He'd get to stay stateside.What a load of bull.
I don't even know how they got our phone number.


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20 Jul 2017, 5:50 pm

I wasn't even thought of yet during the summer of '67. My PARENTS were still in their early to mid teens.

My folks ran the gamut from straight-laced conservatives through hippies to SDS and Weather Underground types. I grew up hearing about all of it, and kind of caught in a time-warp due to the fact that, for the back-to-the-land, peace-love-and-cannabis hippie contingent anyway, the Sixties never ended.

I wish we could have tempered some of that idealism with a realistic acknowledgement about the downright shittiness of human nature, and kept that sentiment alive. I think we'd have a better society.

Other than that, all I can say is... It sounds eerily familiar. Very much like the times we're living in, minus a lot of the laid-back optimism.

God I'm tired.


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20 Jul 2017, 7:01 pm

I don't believe in the "downright shittiness of human nature."



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20 Jul 2017, 7:40 pm

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I wasn't even thought of yet during the summer of '67. My PARENTS were still in their early to mid teens.

My folks ran the gamut from straight-laced conservatives through hippies to SDS and Weather Underground types. I grew up hearing about all of it, and kind of caught in a time-warp due to the fact that, for the back-to-the-land, peace-love-and-cannabis hippie contingent anyway, the Sixties never ended.

I wish we could have tempered some of that idealism with a realistic acknowledgement about the downright shittiness of human nature, and kept that sentiment alive. I think we'd have a better society.

Other than that, all I can say is... It sounds eerily familiar. Very much like the times we're living in, minus a lot of the laid-back optimism.

God I'm tired.


This song came out in '68. If it came out now it would be torn apart on social media.


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20 Jul 2017, 7:46 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
This song came out in '68. If it came out now it would be torn apart on social media.

Jim and Mary Post, aka "Friend and Lover" at least until they got divorced somewhat unpleasantly. btw, the estimable Ray Stevens produced their hit record ["reach out of the darkness"] for them, it was recorded in the summer of love, 1967. took 'em until early '68 to get it mastered and issued on record.



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20 Jul 2017, 8:11 pm

I used to hear that song all the time on the radio.

"I think it's so groovy now....that we are finally getting together!"

Came out in early-mid 1968.



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20 Jul 2017, 8:12 pm

both of 'em are still alive at last report.



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20 Jul 2017, 8:30 pm

My favorite part of the song was when the guy gave the other guy "a call" so they can hash out their differences.



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20 Jul 2017, 8:34 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
My favorite part of the song was when the guy gave the other guy "a call" so they can hash out their differences.

I first heard that song in 1985, while in the army, and I thought to meself, "my, this is a cosmic song of peace!" it excited my imagination. it was years out of print, not in stores, but somehow the oldies radio stations all played it.



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20 Jul 2017, 8:35 pm

I used to hear it in 1968, on the radio. They played it a lot until like 1971.



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20 Jul 2017, 8:44 pm

I didn't get to hear it in stereo until well into the internet age. Verve [the original record label which released it back then] reissued the album via the Collector's Choice label a few years ago. Mary Post was a red-headed BABE :heart: