Temeraire wrote:
B19 wrote:
Size-ism like ageism can be deeply offensive and those that promote it in simplistic binaries eg (me fit as Tarzan, you are a fat loser, so you are a less worthy person than me) seem unaware of the lack of nuance and egoism represented in their comments.
Hi B19,
I agree with you, as you know about some of my beliefs already, but the guy does have a point - isn't me in a job and rich, you a poor loser just as inappropriate because it is offensive to those who cannot get a job or work full-time?
If one is chastised the other should be spoken to as well? Although, I do not know if this has already happened and apologise if this has already happened.
One is an opinion about appearance the other about status. Both worthy of considering or neither worth considering.
Justice and fairness should be practised with all.
This is the point I made in the first place about men having somewhere to go and be themselves just as women can. If a women ventures into this zone then at her own peril it be.
This is what is wrong with society at large. It’s being geared more towards helping womenproblems then men problems.
The Who dont hame fat women movement only helped fat wome. There was the movement to change how women are valued, but no movement to change how men are valued. Feminism has always fought to make women have more powe then men not equal. Or they’d fought to get rid of valuing men based on their job and income, they’d fought to not shame fat guys and to make being fat a s a guy social acceptable, there are no such movements. Women at large are content with how fat men are shamed and how men are valued based on their income status which is sad. For men not much has changed since 1950s and not much changed then from ,1780s. It’s be Stagnant but technology has greatly changed the way the world works, along with feminism making it so women work too, means far less good jobs for men. There isn’t enough good paying jobs for all men it’s impossible, every woman that works means a man can’t work. I’m all for women working but we need them to adjust the value of men based on their job and income. This isn’t 1950. It was a lot easier for men in 1950 as most women didn’t work. So it was easy to have a better job then most women. We as society really need to change how we value men.