The Palestinians were the "original Canaanites"

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The verse is mentioned in that article:

https://www.knowingthebible.net/the-ext ... canaanites

https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don ... t_1382.cfm


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/scie ... 62936.html

I pretty much agree with the first two articles. I’d like more clarification on the concept of generational sin, though. The law says that you cannot be punished for what a family member does. But it’s also an unfortunate reality that children have to deal with the consequences of their parents’ actions.

The main problem, though, is the first two articles deal only with the order to destroy the Canaanites, not what the Israelites actually did. The Israelites made peace with some Canaanites, some Canaanites fled to neighboring countries, or the Israelites just gave up. Joshua got rid of the Canaanites where he went, but he couldn’t cover all of Israel in his lifetime. God even said some would be allowed to live to keep wild animals under control until the Israelites were able to move into those areas.

We know that remnants of Canaanites were in Israel late into Saul’s reign. David led a policy of wrapping up unfinished business. Solomon’s foreign policy effectively brought them all back in. Rehoboam alienates the northern tribes and split the nation. Israel largely abandoned YHWH worship while Judah only sporadically obeyed the Law depending on the king.

They never completely finished the job, which is covered in the Bible. So...yeah, this isn’t a surprise to me. If anything, the article that supposedly proves the Bible wrong actually helps confirm what we already know from the Bible.

This is romper room stuff. It’s an example of quoting scripture out of order and context. Nothing interesting to see here...

How do you make peace with a side who’s goal is to kill all the other side?
There will never be peace in the Middle East when they aren’t killing non Muslim they killing Muslims of a slightly different belief. There’s never been peace in the Middle East and never will be.

Where’d ie d ever say Jewsish capital? Is there a Muslim capital? No there’s no Muslim nation. There’s Muslim nations each with their own capital where we’d have our embassies if we have them I’m this nations.
The nation of israel, which is international accepted as a nation and a member of the United Nations. It’d be like people bitching about having a embassy in Beijing because Taiwan claims it’s the real government of China. jerusalem Is Israel’s capital city. We put embassies in the capitals of nations. That’s it. We have a embassy in soul, North Korea doesn’t like thst they claim soul and all Korea. Where’s everyone demanding we move it out of soul?

Israel is a nation move on. Don’t like it then build a army and try to wipe them all out, but expect one hell of a fight. Gosh knows Muslims have tried many times and failed.

Lobbing mussels and saying your groups goal is the mass killing of all Jews doesn’t sound like wanting peace to me. Quite frankly if it was say Canada lobbing mussels at the us, we’d invaded, toppled their government and occupied them. If the us was Israel or if Russia or China was Israel there wouldn’t be a Palestinian left. We’d hunted down their leaders and destroyed every last misleading launcher they had then occupied them for 20-50 years like Germany and Japan, or in Russia and chinas side just claimed it part of their nation permanently. So maybe people should stop bitching when Israel does a counter attack then withdraws. Any other nation would have launched a total war and occupation.

^ We will not stop bitching about Israel’s murderous acts just because you said so; nor we will accept Jerusalem as the sole capital of Israel just because some of you Americans said so.
Nor the 300K Palestinians will be driven out of Jerusalem easily.

Nor we need to accept your evangelist bible.

So how about you stop bitching by being israel’s advocate?

You realize that the Bible was written by fanatic enemies of the Canaanites, right? So not everything is written about them there may be accurate.

It seems to me the bible-sympathizer authors are just trying to justify the clear ethnic cleansing call in the bible by claiming how “unclean” their divine enemies were.

This is pretty much how Muslims justify Mohammad’s jihad against pagan Arabs; Muslims claim that pagan Arabs were very sexual, sodoms, used to burry girls alive, and illeterate; all on unfounded grounds though.

You are ASSUMING they were fanatics. That is not a reasonable position.

It's funny you frame this as Muslim vs. non-Muslim; you're aware that Palestinian Christians are just as supportive of Palestinian nationalism as Palestinian Muslims are, right?

Do you really believe that sane people would write about a holy ethnic cleansing of an entire people? The bible contains a bloody manifesto. Judaism probably started as a fanatic El-worshiping Canaanite cult. https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/.pr ... -1.5392677

Early Judaism was a Monolatristic faith - not a monotheist faith - meaning it was about worshiping of one god but admitting the existence of other gods yet hating them all.

Your source is biased. Besides, I can’t read that. It’s covered up with some subscribe notice, and I have no interest in yet another internet account or something else I have to pay for.

Anyway...where do you find this supposed “bloody manifesto”?

I could read it just fine and I am no subscriber to it - haaretz is an Israeli newspapers, so how it would be biased regarding the Old Testament? Unless you mean the author is probably an atheist. And how did you know it's biased without reading it?




The god's call for the Israelites to slaughter Canaanites for example? What would you call that?

That happened quite a few years ago.....I don't believe this applies today.

I could read the headline and part of the first paragraph. “How the Jews invented God, and made him great.” The writer is biased against the actual existence of God. That’s all I need to know.

And how is that a bloody manifesto? The Canaanites had sunk so far deep into sin they no longer had any redeeming qualities. It was so ingrained into their society that to try to assimilate into an Israelite theocracy would have meant either their destruction or the destruction of the Chosen.

And where is it written that the Canaanites didn’t have any choice in the matter? God went before the Israelites to drive them out, basically deporting them to seek asylum in neighboring countries. Jericho had long been aware of Israelite presence and their intentions, so it’s reasonable to conclude that some might have chosen to leave. Others attempted to make peace with the Israelites, such as Rahab and her family. The order went out to destroy the remnants, but God extended His mercies all the way to the end.

These days people put so much stock in God’s love and mercy that they forget that withholding justice is neither loving nor merciful. God repeatedly displays His patience. Human beings are prone to crossing points of no return, and I think that’s when you see God’s vengeance on display. When it happens, it happens quickly.

It’s also limited. When the Canaanites were dispossessed, Israel did not expand their borders or conquer new territory.

And I also think you have to take into account what the Canaanites were doing that angered God so much in the first place. Child sacrifice. Ritual prostitution. Bestiality. Incest. Those kinds of things and more were just another day. Israel was called to put a quick end to it.

And North Korea will never accept that they don’t own all Korea, China will never accept they don’t own Tiawan, etc etc. it is how it is bitching wont matter. Jerusalem is the international accepted capital of israel, want to change it, raise a big enough military force to take it but be prepared to fight US and nato. didn’t work out so well for yiu all last time. You took it from them they took it back. That’s how the world works. Just like the us won’t be giving back all the land to the native Americans

Israel Muslims support Israel. Maybe if they gave up on taking the city back and stopped lobbying mussels and doing suicide attacks there’d be peace.
If you lived in Israel constantly under attack you’d have a different opinion. You like people telling England to stop attacking the Germans during the longing bombings.
Or what if we just left Isis alone surely they’d stop attacking us if we just completely withdrew all military from Middle East and let them have it. No they goal is to kill all non Muslims yiu can’t make peace with people who’s sole goal is to kill you.

Other Muslim nations who work with irsael don’t seem to care and I’m sure a lot of Muslims don’t care or support Israel. Sorry but if Canada started lobbing missies on my city every week I’d be calling for their invasion and to topple Canada

I believe that God calling for ethnic cleansing in the Old Testament had more to do with justifying genocide after the fact than with anything God actually wanted. And by all evidence, the Hebrews were themselves a Canaanite people who ended up absorbing many of the other Canaanites.