Not much has gotten better here.

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I was told changes and improvements were made to WP as far as personal attacks, bullying, trolling, baiting, antagonizing and rule breaking that drove so many away.

But I'm constantly seeing the same behavior from the same people who have always dished it out the most.

I feel like coming back here was a mistake.

I actually feel that great efforts are being invested to improve things. Positive change is a process and not an instant result.

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I find that WP is the opposite to everything you mentioned, unless you're only talking about PPR, which I'd advise you to stay away from. Give me a few examples of which sections contain personal attacks, bullying, trolling, baiting, antagonizing and rule breaking.

And don't use the kafkatrap, saying that I'm giving a personal attack or whatever, because I'm not. I'm just curious as what you mean, because I've been a member here for 10 years and I find that the mods are pretty quick at dealing with things before they get out of hand, and most of the time I find people here supportive and empathetic.

And welcome back by the way.

Changes have been made, rules have been imposed, warnings have been issued, and all is right with the world.

Have a nice day!

Great efforts by the new staff, absolutely.

But unfortunately for whatever reason those who have always dished out the most regarding personal attacks, bullying, trolling, baiting, antagonizing, demeaning etc are still at it.

What I see here is:

Be an anti Trump, you are baiting and trolling and bullying.

Be Pro Trump: you are not baiting and trolling and bullying.


This is a kafka trap. Screw it. Let them feel this way and think there is a conspiracy behind those comments. You can't win. We're trapped. It's either we agree with the right wing or were are bullies and trolls.


I think this is what the actual "trolling" and "bullying" and "personal attacks" are. Being a anti Trump and anti right wing. Maybe we can throw it back at them and accuse them of the same thing and pretend there is a conspiracy behind any right wing comments here so we can play the victim here.

I've hardly been in PPR. What I'm talking about is all over the place. Someone was telling me things were better here in a non political thread practically at the same time someone was trashing them in that tread.

You know that I'm saying things that many others have already said before.

I just needed to get it off my chest as well.

WP is what we make of it.
You have most power and most responsibility over your own behavior. Always.
If you see bad things done by others, report particular occurences.

You shouldn't let Trump be such a focal point to you. There are other things going on than being pro-trump and anti-trump. There are many here who are neither.

Well many of what's left of what used to be many.

!	magz wrote:
	No personal exchanges!

What's a personal exchange?

Well I haven't seen anything bad outside of PPR. No bickering and arguing and any disagreements. Unless you are referring to that thread where someone wants to do violence because they refuse to get their boiler fixed. I think people are saying the way it is and it's not bullying. No one is telling that user mean things to them. Only telling them the consequences of not getting it fixed and what can happen if it's not taken care of. Now they are surprised they don't have heat.

I must have been hallucinating then.

I don't understand either.

I meant don't go into "you're wrong" - "no, you're wrong" - "no, you're wrong and bad" - etc.
But I see you avoided this trap
Thank you