Facial features vs physique?

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Can any guy become good looking if he works out and builds a good physique or at the end of the day does it all boil down to a man’s facial features?

Neither.

Positive character traits like kindness and empathy can make a person seem attractive when they are not conventionally so.

People with the perfect face and physique can appear ugly if they are as*holes.

It kind of depends on the individual you are trying to attract. Those qualities can overcome physical appears to some (but not all) potential partners. Still, physical attraction is beneficial to most relationships.

Having a good physique can't hurt. It will also be more healthier for you and will probably increase your feelings about yourself. It can probably compensate some for not having good facial features, but cannot complete replace them.

The OP spends a lot of time focused on physical appearance based on many, many past threads/discussions.

There are other attributes that can help one attract a partner beyond physical appearance.

Last edited by TwilightPrincess on 23 Aug 2023, 7:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.

We've already answered ten million threads like this.

The answer is different people like different things, so there isn't an answer.

Many people don't care much about facial features OR physique, all other things being equal.

Be a good person and stop obsessing about your looks.

Jamesy, why don’t you read your past threads on this and nearly identical topics rather than start new ones?

Self improvement will never hurt.

Given that Aspie guys have much more trouble finding girlfriends than do NT guys, we need all the advantages we can get! If you like working out, by all means do it. It will provide quite a few benefits to you.

Self-improvement is not just about hitting the gym to get the perfect body (whatever that means). There are many, many areas in which individuals can set goals, make progress, and grow as people.

I'm going to be honest enough to say that "it depends too much on what it's for".

But one thing's for sure: I can’t share my bed nor my days with an as*hole.

There's a hierarchy of attractiveness.

Facial features + physique = top of the pyramid.

Next is a good physique edging out a good looking face and unfit body.

After that, if you're not fit, then at least having good facial features makes one attractive.

And at the base of the pyramid we have people with undesirable facial features And unfit bodies.


So, there ya go - no matter who you are or what you look like you can increase your physical attractiveness by being physically fit.

Something interesting to say.
And good smell.

Nice voice .

A generally obnoxious attitude can negate every step of this pyramid.

If a man does not know how to properly behave in public, then he may as well stay home.

While true, the thread and response was just about physical appearance.

Depends what you mean by good-looking. Conventionally attractive? Good-looking enough to attract a partner?

Someone with unfortunate facial features is probably never going to be considered conventionally attractive, but it's probably possible for them to be attractive enough to date. Partaking in activities that make them more conventionally attractive can generally only increase their chances of attracting a partner.

Yes, exactly! Self-improvement is multi-faceted, and can seem overwhelming if you try to do everything at once.

I suggested improving the physical physique first because that is probably the easiest and most straightforward, and provides the most concrete feedback. Lift weights, do some cardio, eat healthily and you will lose weight and body fat and build some muscle. You have the scale as a direct, objective measure as to how one is doing.

When he (or anyone) sees some success in that area their self-efficacy for improvement will increase and making changes in other areas will seem more manageable.

Improving social skills is very useful but that is more abstract and less measurable. How do you go about improving social skills? What exactly are good social skills? How do you know if yours have improved? These are harder to determine and measure.