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autisticelders
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27 Oct 2023, 5:17 pm

welcome Arion, glad you are here!


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27 Oct 2023, 9:33 pm

Hello Arion. Welcome.



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27 Oct 2023, 11:33 pm

Welcome to WP!

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27 Oct 2023, 11:47 pm

You know Arion in my first registration on WP I used a title similar to yours.

Meet an Alien.

I noticed that we often think this about ourselves.

But so do the rest of us.


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28 Oct 2023, 12:01 am

Huckleberry Finn wrote:
You know Arion in my first registration on WP I used a title similar to yours.

Meet an Alien.

I noticed that we often think this about ourselves.

But so do the rest of us.


The best thing about this journey for me is realizing I'm not like most people, but I am like a LOT of people. More than I ever dreamed.



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28 Oct 2023, 1:43 pm

Welcome to you! You're among your people here, not an alien anymore.

Arion wrote:
She redirected to a public structure specialized in the diagnosis of ASD and other neurodevelopmental conditions such as ADHD, with confirmed that I was, in fact, autistic.


So you know, a surprisingly high percentage of autistic girls/women seem to have a cluster of autism/ADHD/anxiety -- more so than autistic boys/men -- so it is possible you have both. That's known as "AuDHD" to indicate both neurodevelopmental conditions are present.


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28 Oct 2023, 7:22 pm

Chiedo scusa alla moderazione per il post doppio , credo dipenda da un mio errore e non da un bug di sistema in questo caso.
Il motivo dello spoiler è di ridurlo al minimo visivamente.
Quando possibile chiedo cortesemente di aiutarmi a eliminare il mio errore .Grazie.


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28 Oct 2023, 7:23 pm

NowWhatDoIDo wrote:
Huckleberry Finn wrote:
You know Arion in my first registration on WP I used a title similar to yours.

Meet an Alien.

I noticed that we often think this about ourselves.

But so do the rest of us.


The best thing about this journey for me is realizing I'm not like most people, but I am like a LOT of people. More than I ever dreamed.

You know Arion, we Neurodiverse people as a whole make up over 10% of the world's population.

The percentage of pure HFA, therefore clearly belonging to the autistic condition, is 1%.


I understand what you mean, sorry if I broadened the discussion.


For me, I have never perceived myself as neurotypical.

Until 2011 I wasn't sure what I was.

Then the diagnoses followed one another, in our country they are called local health authorities.

I have had three diagnoses from three different A.S.L.

Then the one that interested me from researchers in 2018.

Before, I couldn't explain to my parents what I was like.

Not to loved ones.

As regards the most important aspect, the problem is sensorial (luckily in some here it doesn't seem to exist, but in my case there is) and social communicative.

I have talents, but they are of no use to me if I don't communicate.

To make myself understood I have to use their mental patterns.

When you try to explain things it's just a waste of time.

If you talk about it (at least here), you become the person who complains.

If you don't mask your condition from us, they tell you a lot of wrong things.

What bothers me the most is not accepting how the other person is.

If this is not accepted it is on the part of loved ones.

It happens like this to me.

They go from a concept of genius to one of complete disapproval.

I am neither wrong nor perfect.

I listen to everyone without judging them.

But they don't listen to me.

So I avoid wasting my breath and time.

I don't talk about it.

In some things I think 10 times faster than their average.
In others I have serious difficulties instead.

And they are the ones that come naturally to them.

I have a clear memory of being different from them from the age of 3 onwards.

I would like to help you outline it better, but I myself struggle with this explanation.

I'm exhausted from explaining: I also wonder why I should explain what I'm like.

I can do it with you.

Out of here the less I talk about it the better I feel.

Very very stressful.


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28 Oct 2023, 8:02 pm

ChicagoLiz wrote:
Welcome to you! You're among your people here, not an alien anymore.

Arion wrote:
She redirected to a public structure specialized in the diagnosis of ASD and other neurodevelopmental conditions such as ADHD, with confirmed that I was, in fact, autistic.


So you know, a surprisingly high percentage of autistic girls/women seem to have a cluster of autism/ADHD/anxiety -- more so than autistic boys/men -- so it is possible you have both. That's known as "AuDHD" to indicate both neurodevelopmental conditions are present.


Hi, sorry if I'm replying to a post directed at Arion.

Scientific studies find no difference between male and female subjects.

Anthony Attwood has also moved these considerations towards the 1:1 ratio in diagnostics, previously it was written about a 4-fold ratio against women.
Years ago I often wrote about it because I am very interested in when there are "gender" differences, and if there are unequal diagnostics in women.
In reality, a lot of data is missing.

Because socially they are more capable (Generally than males).

This greatly influenced diagnoses and evaluations.





That concept has also been revised.

Mine are identical and I believe many here have identical ones.

ADHD, anxiety, autism.

AdhD and anxiety also have a life of their own of course, but they are different than in an autistic person.

It is difficult for an autistic person not to have anxiety: see, after the age of 16 our amygdalae are increased by 20% compared to non-autistics.

Anxiety derives from that condition: that is, it becomes pathological.

I don't know of any meta-analytic studies on ADHD.

That is, it is impossible to compare ADHD for identical diagnostic linearity.

While it is possible to diagnose it with different degrees of seriousness.


It's not a post contrary to yours, I'm happy to read different opinions if validated and recent.

If you have current research available and would post it as informative links I would be very grateful.

On the internet they write and reiterate without reviewing beliefs that are often repeated.



I see you've only written 10 posts so you're new too: welcome here.


Thank you


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28 Oct 2023, 8:23 pm

I'm not sure if your response means you think I was talking about numbers of autistic men & women in general? I meant that while there is a higher prevalence of co-occurring diagnoses (ADHD & anxiety) with autists -- as opposed to NTs -- the percentage of girls/women who have that combo is even higher than boys/men. I can't find the article I read that gave the number as 70%, but it was probably via Spectrum News, ASAN, or AANE. If I find it again I'll try to remember to post it here.

Thanks for the welcome!


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28 Oct 2023, 9:07 pm

ChicagoLiz wrote:
I'm not sure if your response means you think I was talking about numbers of autistic men & women in general? I meant that while there is a higher prevalence of co-occurring diagnoses (ADHD & anxiety) with autists -- as opposed to NTs -- the percentage of girls/women who have that combo is even higher than boys/men. I can't find the article I read that gave the number as 70%, but it was probably via Spectrum News, ASAN, or AANE. If I find it again I'll try to remember to post it here.

Thanks for the welcome!

Hi, thanks and welcome to a peaceful forum.

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So in medicine they are called comorbidity

.
Yes .

Even though the ADHD issue is often overestimated and misdiagnosed.

I'll try looking too.

Tomorrow or later.

You already give me useful references.

So in terms of percentages I meant 10% of individuals with a Neurodiverse diagnosis.

Which is broader than just autistic people.
It also includes other bands that make up that percentage.

I estimate 1% based on the new data. Previously I would have written exactly 0.7% referring to HFA Asperger's.

Now they have merged percentages a bit, polluting the actual statistical data.


*On that 70% percentage you make me think: I have some ideas in mind.

*You might be right, it's just that the data is uneven.

You see, I have always dealt with the diagnostic differences between men and women, because the topic is very important.

And I didn't understand if there was the usual discrimination by gender.

* If those studies were carried out on a large audience of people they could have an actual correspondence, however I cannot tell you the true percentage.

On the increased one vs men it could be an appropriate data instead.

This is about the anxiety part.

That ADHD goes very high in both sexes.

Even in those not related to autism.

Then there are subclinical cases, but they fall within the 10% percentage and are therefore included in the attribution.

I need to understand better before answering to answer validly.

Thanks and sorry for writing late.


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