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21 Dec 2023, 9:34 am

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I was taught that the U.S. government was behind everything, using Israel as a pawn to unleash its influence in the Middle East.

I think that's an oversimplified view. It seems to me that lobbying by various large private organizations of American people, both Jewish and Christian, is a much bigger factor here than any purely rational geopolitical interest of the U.S. government.


I agree. In fact, I'd say that America's support for Israel serves virtually no American geopolitical interests at all. I believe Richard Nixon and General David Petraeus (among others) have said something similar in the past.

I know that while Britain still had an empire, some of its statesmen imagined they could use a 'friendly' Jewish state to promote British interests in the region, but they never got the chance to test that theory out.

However, the idea that in this day and age America is somehow 'using' Israel just doesn't stack up. All America's support for Israel has given to America is a whole load of new enemies among states who were once friendly (or at least neutral) towards her. Israel has never even officially supported America in any of America's Middle East wars in return for all of the billions America gives her in aid.

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(And the Christian Zionist orgs have the biggest role, since they are much bigger than the Jewish orgs, indeed much bigger than the total number of Jews in the U.S.A., Zionist or otherwise.)


I disagree on this. Assessing the extent of political power is not just a matter of performing a headcount, even in a so-called democracy. It's the Jewish Zionist lobby that has more organizational power than the Christian Zionist one, through the likes of AIPAC etc.

At the very least, it seems very unlikely that the Christian Zionist lobby would get their way on Israel in the absence of Jewish Zionist lobby when you consider that conservative Christians have been consistently defeated on other policies they care about. (1962: prayer remove from public schools - 1969: no-fault divorce introduced in California and then spread throughout the US - 1973: Roe vs Wade was passed, notwithstanding the fact that it eventually got overturned some 49 years later - 2003: homosexuality legalized in all 50 states.)

However, I agree that Christian Zionism is important, and certainly deserves discussing. And yes it does seem to be a strangely American phenomenon. (Christian Zionism was once influential in Britain, but seems to have virtually disappeared from Britain now.)



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21 Dec 2023, 1:06 pm

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(And the Christian Zionist orgs have the biggest role, since they are much bigger than the Jewish orgs, indeed much bigger than the total number of Jews in the U.S.A., Zionist or otherwise.)


I disagree on this. Assessing the extent of political power is not just a matter of performing a headcount, even in a so-called democracy. It's the Jewish Zionist lobby that has more organizational power than the Christian Zionist one, through the likes of AIPAC etc.

At the very least, it seems very unlikely that the Christian Zionist lobby would get their way on Israel in the absence of Jewish Zionist lobby when you consider that conservative Christians have been consistently defeated on other policies they care about. (1962: prayer remove from public schools - 1969: no-fault divorce introduced in California and then spread throughout the US - 1973: Roe vs Wade was passed, notwithstanding the fact that it eventually got overturned some 49 years later - 2003: homosexuality legalized in all 50 states.)

I would say that the Christian Zionist movement plus the Jewish Zionist movement, together, are much more powerful than either one alone could be.

And, while Christian Zionists (including organized ones) are much more numerous than Jewish Zionists, the latter are driven by stronger emotions, for obvious reasons, hence are likely to contribute larger amounts of money per capita to their respective orgs. But Christian Zionists too are far from ragtag in terms of organization and monetary contributions.

I would also describe both Jewish and Christian Zionism as "movements," not just "lobbies," although, for both, lobbying groups are an essential part of the movement. Both Christian and Jewish Zionism include both lobby groups and various other kinds of groups as well, which add to the movement's overall organizational clout.

Also, Christian Zionism has become much more organized during the past few decades than it was in the past. Previously, Christian Zionism was just one part of a larger evangelical Christian religious right wing agenda, whereas now there are vast organizations, such as Christians United for Israel (CUFI), devoted specifically to Christian Zionism.

As a result, our government's support for Israel has gotten more and more staunch over the past few decades.


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21 Dec 2023, 11:30 pm

Curious to learn more about the history of premillenial dispensationalism (the specific eschatology that gave rise to Christian Zionism), I just now read Dispensational Premillennialism: The Dispensationalist Era: "How a once-mocked idea began its domination of the evangelical world," by Timothy Weber, Christianity Today, 1999.

The author, Tim Weber, "is dean of Northern Baptist Seminary in Lombard, Illinois. He is author of Living in the Shadow of the Second Coming: American Premillennialism, 1875-1982 (University of Chicago, 1999)."


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22 Dec 2023, 12:34 am

Yesterday, YouTube's algorithm led me to a video in which a Muslim man interviewed an American evangelical Christian pastor who opposes Christian Zionism. The pastor was talking about how disturbed he is about what has been happening to Palestinians in Gaza recently, and about how he has been praying for Palestinian children every night.

So far, he sounded to me like someone whose heart was in the right place.

But then, I heard the pastor's name: Rick Wiles.

He is someone I've read about in the past as being a religious right wing extremist. When I looked into his beliefs further, it turned out that Rick Wiles is a conspiracy nut who believes in the "Israeli false flag" theory of what happened on 9/11.

It gets worse. According to Wikipedia:

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Wiles has said that Jews seek to obtain control of countries to "kill millions of Christians"

Also, when criticizing Christian Zionism in the video I was watching, he gave an extremely oversimplified, distorted history thereof, making it sound as if nobody in America ever heard of premillennial dispensationalism before the Scofield Reference Bible, whose success Rick Wiles attributed solely to favors from a rich Jewish Zionist lawyer friend of Cyrus I. Scofield.

That's not an accurate history, at all. See the article linked in my previous post.

In general, Rick Wiles seems to be a big believer in anti-Jewish conspiracy theories. He even deemed it relevant to allege that Cyrus I. Scofield's rich Jewish lawyer friend had some kind of connection with the Federal Reserve, which has long been a big bugaboo of John Birch Society-style conspiracy nuts.

Anyhow, poking around the YouTube channel of the Muslim who interviewed him, I also found some other rather unsavory stuff, including an interview with a well-known "Manosphere" figure. For that and other reasons, I'm not linking to any of this particular Muslim guy's videos.

I really hope that Christian Zionism will lose its hold over American evangelical Christians. But, at the same time, I hope it will NOT be replaced by the beliefs of folks like Rick Wiles. That would be really awful.


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22 Dec 2023, 4:50 pm

Grand conspiracy ideology -- and conspiracy theories more generally -- seem to be very widespread among evangelical Christians these days, especially among religious right wing leaders and activists.

As we have seen, grand conspiracy ideology is embraced both by some of the main leaders of Christian Zionism, such as John Hagee, and by some of their all-too-few opponents.

Alas, some of the all-too-few opponents of Christian Zionism, such as Rick Wiles, advocate classic anti-Jewish conspiracy claims. On the other hand, some of the leading Christian Zionists advocate essentially the same grand conspiracy ideology, but with Satanists, Pagans, and occultists substituted (almost -- not completely) for Jews.

Fortunately, some evangelical Christians are pushing back. Here is a list of resources by evangelical Christians who oppose the conspiracy theory trend:

- Eviscerating History: Conspiracy Theories and their Consequences, The Pneuma Review: Journal of Ministry Resources and Theology for Pentecostal and Charismatic Ministries & Leaders, May 1, 2023. (Updated version of an earlier article, The Sinfulness and Destructiveness of Conspiracy Theories, June 29, 2015. Adapted from the book America in Danger, Left and Right: Biblical Analysis, Actions, and Intercessions for the Current Crisis by William L De Arteaga, 2022)
- Christians Are Not Immune to Conspiracy Theories by Joe Carter, Gospel Coalition, May 8, 2020
- Christianity’s End-Times Conspiracy Theories by Jonathan Zdziarski, January 1, 2022.
- The False Faith of Conspiracy Theories by William McCall, Adventist Today, 26 May 2020.
- What Should Christians Do With Conspiracy Theories? by Daniel Darling , Fathom Mag
- “Whatsoever Is True”: Reflecting on the Growth of Conspiracy Theories Among Christians by Dan Darling, 9Marks Journal
- Christians & Conspiracy Theories: A Call to Repentance and Repentance from Conspiracy Theories: Frequently Asked Questions, Additional Points, and Links, on a website called Acts 17:11 Bible Studies
- We Can Reach Conspiracy Theorists for Christ. Here’s How: "God rescued me from a conspiracy theory and terrorism, and he can save others as well," by Thomas Tarrants, Christianity Today, July 1, 2021. (The author is a former Klansman and has written the book Consumed by Hate, Redeemed by Love.)
- A Guide to Loving Your Conspiracy Theorist: On the Low Anthropology and Grace of Talking Across the Divide, by Brian J., Mockingbird, January 13, 2021.
- On the blog of A.W. Workman: (1) Conspiracy Theories Are Bunk, (2) Human Creativity and Conspiracy Theory, and (3) Blame It On the Masons
- How should we respond to conspiracy theories? on the website of Colin Glen Christian Fellowship, an independent Christian Fellowship in West Belfast
- Conspiracy Theories—A Christian Answer on a website called What do Christians Believe?
- Christians, Don’t Waste Your Life on Conspiracy Theories by Aaron Shafovaloff, November 5, 2016
- Are conspiracy theories biblical?: "A well-concocted rumor can circulate for many years and do considerable damage. Let us think of the hoax whereby Christians of the first centuries worshiped a God with a donkey's head." By Pier Francesco Abortivi. 26 JANUARY 2021

Of the resources listed above, the first one, from The Pneuma Review: Journal of Ministry Resources and Theology for Pentecostal and Charismatic Ministries & Leaders, is one of the most significant. I am under the impression that Pentecostal and Charismatic churches are one of the branches of Christianity where grand conspiracy ideology is most endemic.

Note that I personally do not endorse most of the political views expressed on the pages listed above, which tend to be rather right-wing-leaning. However, because I see grand conspiracy ideology as one of the most dangerous facets of the Christian religious right wing, I am glad to see some evangelical Christians speaking out against it.


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23 Dec 2023, 6:22 am

Fortunately there do exist some (though, alas, apparently not very many) American evangelical Christians who embrace neither Christian Zionism nor anti-Jewish conspiracy theories.

One of these is Gary M. Burge, who is now Professor of New Testament and Dean of the Faculty at Calvin Theological Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI (USA).

Below is an excerpt from his article Why I’m Not a Christian Zionist:

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I grew up in an evangelical Lutheran world that celebrated Israel relentlessly.

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After I finished seminary and more graduate school in Europe, I settled into my career as a professor and along with a colleague began teaching the historical geography of Israel in Israel. This meant hiking and bussing all over the country with about 30 college students, explaining the geography, and retelling the biblical stories at the right locations.

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When the first Palestinian uprising broke out in 1987 I wondered what all the fuss was about. [...] The conflicts accelerated in the late 1980s and into the 1990s and they became troublesome to us and our academic tour program.

By accident I met a young Palestinian guy in his 20s whose father was a pastor in Ramallah and this started all of my problems. First, how could anybody be Palestinian and Christian? And second, how could anyone say that this uprising was legitimate?

I then met his father and he invited me to send my group of students home after this trip, change my ticket, and stay in Ramallah while it was under occupation. I did. We spent long nights talking about theology and sneaking out after curfew to watch what was happening on the ground. And here is the truest thing I can say: You can’t understand a story of occupation and oppression or the violence it requires unless you’ve seen it up close — or made friends with those who live it.

This Arab pastor told me that even though I thought I had been to the Holy Land a dozen times, I had only been there once. I had been on the “tourist trail” and never gone astray. He was right. This tourist trail kept people from seeing behind the scenes in order to protect the Israeli tourism industry. But now I had peeked behind that curtain. And there was no going back.

I asked to meet other pastors. And this led to a network of friendships. And more experiences in the second uprising of 2000. I wrote a book about this in 2003 (Whose Land? Whose Promise?) and while it became a best seller my momentary fame evaporated quickly: I foolishly thought my evangelical friends would like to learn what was going on. They did not. By then I was a tenured professor at evangelical Wheaton College, still taking students to “Israel/Palestine” and feeling the growing resentment of my evangelical world. Which culminated in a formal letter from the college that prohibited me from taking any of our students to a Palestinian theology conference because “it was dangerous.” It would be “upsetting.” Some might need counseling afterward. Actually, it was inconvenient for Wheaton’s constituency.

I have returned to Israel/Palestine and about a half dozen Arab countries many times over the years. I have tried to read widely and thoughtfully and discovered that the views of Israel – the theological views promoted by Christian Zionism — are ill-informed and simply not biblical (see my analysis of this in Jesus and the Land). But worse, they are dangerous. I became convinced that there was a severe moral flaw in my evangelical church’s commitments. We were promoting harm and not representing the gospel or the love and truth of Christ in this part of the world. Our zeal for prophecy, our excitement about Israel and our hope in end times had blinded us. In a word, Christian Zionism had betrayed us.

Below is a video in which Dr. Gary M. Burge is a guest of "Bible Answer Man" Hank Hanegraaff:

Palestine, Christian Zionists & Ethnic Cleansing



Hank Hanegraaff runs the Christian Research Institute (a website devoted to Christian theology plus a lot of critique of heretical "cults" such as the Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons).

Here is a "Bible Answer Man" podcast in which Hank Hanegraaff hosts Dr. Gary M Burge: Erased from Space and Consciousness with Dr. Gary Burge, and Q&A. They discuss the book Erased from Space and Consciousness: Israel and the Depopulated Palestinian Villages of 1948 by Noga Kadman, reviewed here.

Dr. Burge believes that the only good longterm solution to the Israel/Palestine problem is a single binational state in which everyone has equal rights.


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27 Dec 2023, 8:26 pm

Not all American Christians are Zionists, and even some of the Zionists are bothered by the intensity and scale of Israel's attacks on Gaza. The following article talks about the various positions of different Christian churches.

According to ‘It’s impossible to celebrate’: Gaza war opens fissures among US Christians by Isabeau Doucet, Guardian (UK), Sun 24 Dec 2023:

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“The only gift that Palestinians want to have is a Christmas ceasefire gift,” said the Rev Khader Khalila, who grew up in Bethlehem, and is now at The Redeemer-St John’s Lutheran church in Brooklyn. Khalila will not be exchanging gifts this year, even with his own two children, and will instead donate money to organizations helping children in Gaza and rebuilding efforts.

The United States is home to the world’s largest population of Christians – a diverse faith group profoundly divided along denominational and political lines. These divisions are on stark display when it comes to the war in holy land.

Shortly after Hamas’s 7 October attacks on southern Israel, some 90 pastors and other leaders signed an “Evangelical Statement in Support of Israel” condemning Hamas.

“In keeping with Christian Just War tradition, we also affirm the legitimacy of Israel’s right to respond against those who have initiated these attacks,” the letter read. Among its signatories was the president of the Southern Baptist Convention, who represents the largest evangelical Protestant group in the US with about 13 million members.

A very different letter was sent to President Joe Biden on 9 November from Churches for Middle East Peace (CMEP) and 30 American Christian leaders, calling for the administration to “support an immediate ceasefire, de-escalation, and restraint by all involved”. It was signed by representatives of the Presbyterian, Methodist, Episcopal, United, Lutheran and Orthodox churches, among others.

Evangelical Protestants, who lean more Republican, account for about 24% of the adult US population, according to 2021 Pew Research Center research. Catholics account for 21%, and non-evangelical or “mainline” Protestants, who lean more moderate or liberal, account for about 16%. In terms of support for the Israeli government, 68% of white evangelicals express a very or somewhat favorable view, while only 50% of Catholics and 51% of white non-evangelical Protestants feel that way, according to 2022 Pew polls.

The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA), which has nearly 4 million congregants, denounced both Hamas and Israel’s retaliation, but said that the “power exerted against all Palestinian people – through the occupation, the expansion of settlements and the escalating violence – must be called out as a root cause of what we are witnessing”.

But even supporters of Israel are concerned about the mounting death toll in Gaza.

Earlier this month, two women were shot dead by Israeli snipers while taking refuge inside a church in Gaza, and seven others were wounded.

Most of the Christians left in Gaza – some 800-1,000 of them – have been sheltering in two churches. Pope Francis condemned the killings and suggested Israel was using “terrorism” tactics across the strip.

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More progressive denominations have taken a much firmer stance against Israel’s military campaign.

Susan Wilder, a minister at the Grace Presbyterian church in Springfield, Virginia, joined an international delegation of Christian leaders spending Christmas in Bethlehem in solidarity with the Palestinians. She worries about US complicity in the war: “We haven’t been a good friend to Israel in really calling them to halt these atrocities that’s essentially genocide on display for all the world to see.”

​The Presbyterian Church (USA), representing 1.1 million members, voted in the summer of 2022 to declare Israel an apartheid state. They previously called for US aid to Israel to be conditional on compliance with US law and voted to boycott settlement products and divest from companies that profit from Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territories.

This Christmas, Wilder’s church will conduct a “prayer of mourning and solidarity” with a Christian congregation in the occupied West Bank city of Nablus. They have had a partnership with the Palestinian congregation for the past 16 years, but “this is the worst the situation has ever been for them”, said Wilder referring to the death toll in besieged Gaza and settler violence in the West Bank.

While the Presbyterian church’s stance, along with the United Church of Christ, may be the most robust in their criticism of Israel’s decades-long occupation, they are not alone, says Philip Farah, founder of Palestinian Christian Alliance for Peace. “The majority of mainline Protestant denominations in the US have divested their pension funds from companies that profit from the Israeli occupation of Palestine and the majority have passed resolutions calling for the boycott of products made in the illegal Israeli settlements.”

Some interesting notes about the Catholic Church in the U.S.A., and how its stance differs from that of the Pope:

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While the Vatican has been very critical of Israel’s bombardment, its US representatives have been notably more muted.

There are more than 60 million Catholics in the US – Joe Biden is one of them. While the pope has repeatedly called for a ceasefire. the president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) has avoided using the word, opting instead for an “immediate cessation of all hostilities”, along with prayers for peace.

The USCCB has been quiet and unwilling to help mobilize the public to take the action needed to pressure political leaders, said Eli McCarthy, a professor at Georgetown University in justice and peace studies and a member of the Franciscan Action Network.

“They have also said nothing about sending weapons to Israel, much less the Pentagon budget in general,” McCarthy said. “What I think we see here is the difference between nationalism and Catholicism.”


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28 Dec 2023, 2:12 am

I recently read the following article:

- Why Everything You Think You Know About Christian Zionism Is Wrong by Raphael Magarik, Forward, August 26, 2019.

This article is a review of Covenant Brothers: Evangelicals, Jews, And U.S.-Israeli Relations, by Daniel G. Hummel, University of Pennsylvania Press.

Raphael Magarik's article makes some worthwhile points, but is also incorrect (or at least oversimplified) on a number of other points, as I will explain below. It begins:

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Evangelical Christianity remains one of the few topics about which it remains permissible, and possibly even praiseworthy, for a Jewish liberal to know nothing. Take evangelical attitudes toward Israel. Almost every time the subject comes up, someone will explain that Christian Zionism conceals, under a cloak of philo-Semitism, a nefarious agenda. Christian Zionists support Israel, supposedly, to hasten the end-times, when, as Bible professor Candida Moss writes, “Jews must convert or die.” Political scientist Elizabeth Oldmixon explains that evangelicals are part of “movement in Christianity that’s as old as Christianity itself,” and want to hasten “a millennium in the future,” in which “the Jews, will convert” or be damned.

I don't remember ever seeing anyone, Jewish or Christian, ever claim that Christian Zionism is "as old as Christianity itself." Christian Zionism started in the nineteenth century.

What is "as old as Christianity itself" is the existence of groups of Christians who were preoccupied with end-times prophecies. But different such groups had different ideas as to exactly what the end times would entail.

(Googling "Elizabeth Oldmixon Christian Zionism," I find her statement here. It is unclear exactly what she is claiming to be "a movement in Christianity that’s as old as Christianity itself." Looks to me like bad editing.)

Back to Raphael Magarik's article:

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This narrative is very popular with liberal and leftist Jews. Benjamin Koatz writes of Christians United For Israel’s “esoteric anti-Semitism” and that Christian Zionists believe Jews “will be prodded into conversion by the horrors of anti-Semitism… [or] God will inspire revelation in our hearts at the last moment, allowing us to proceed willingly into rapture.” The same logic underlies Rabbi Lynn Gottlieb’s article, “Anti-Semitism Behind the Christian Zionist Lobby.”

Liberals, and especially liberal Jews, enjoy this story, which allows us to score points against our more conservative co-religionists. The only trouble is that it isn’t true. (Even some basic statistics can be surprising, like that “nine out of ten” American evangelicals reject end-time prophecies involving Jewish control of the Holy Land.) As Daniel G. Hummel documents in his new book, “Covenant Brothers: Evangelicals, Jews, and U.S.-Israeli Relations,” Christian Zionism’s history reveals that the movement is “less about apocalyptic theology or evangelism” than about “mutual and covenantal solidarity.”

While I have not yet read Daniel G. Hummel's book, I have read some of his online articles, which I will discuss in later posts.

Based on my understanding of Hummel's writings, I suspect that the referenced statistics ('“nine out of ten” American evangelicals reject end-time prophecies involving Jewish control of the Holy Land') apply to evangelical Christian pastors, but not lay evangelical Christians. Premillenial dispensationalism has indeed long since gone out of fashion in most evangelical Christian seminaries, but nevertheless was greatly popularized among lay evangelical Christians by books like The Late Great Planet Earth by Hal Lindsay, and later by the Left Behind series by Tim LaHaye. Evangelical Christians learn their beliefs not just from their pastors, but also from televangelists, radio evangelists, and other assorted "parachurch" ministries.

Back to Raphael Magarik's article:

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Through telling the story of Christian Zionism in intricate, narrative detail and paying attention to the splits and fissures within American Christianity, Hummel dismantles virtually every part of the familiar story. Christian Zionism isn’t age-old; its founders were innovating, largely in response to the Holocaust.

Christian Zionism is certainly older than the Holocaust, although feelings of collective guilt about the Holocaust did have a role in its development.

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Christian Zionists do not secretly want to convert Jews; in fact many argue vociferously against missionizing, flirting with the boundaries of Christian orthodoxy in the process.

Christian Zionists vary on this issue. Some do want to convert Jews, others don't.

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Nor is the movement fundamentally apocalyptic: end-time prophecies motivate some believers, but by no means the majority.

There is a variety of different kinds of Christian Zionists, and it is indeed true that not all are motivated by end-times prophecies. But I suspect that Raphael Magarik is underestimating how many are motivated, at least in part, by end-times prophecies.

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Finally, Christian Zionism isn’t even entirely Christian, since it began with interfaith dialogue and was carefully cultivated by the Israeli government.

No, it's older than Israel, and it didn't begin with interfaith dialogue. It began with the Plymouth Brethren and John Nelson Darby. (See History of Christian Zionism by Stephen Sizer.)

Its development has been influenced by interfaith dialogue, and it has been encouraged by the Israeli government for obvious reasons. But neither interfaith dialogue nor the Israeli government are its source.

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Hummel’s story begins in Jerusalem immediately after World War II, with American Christians who came to Palestine and then Israel as missionaries.

If Raphael Magarik thinks Hummel thinks this is the very beginning of Christian Zionism, then Magarik is misunderstanding Hummel.

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In 1949, there were more than fifteen thousand Christian missionaries in Israel, more per capita than anywhere else in the world. Yet they were remarkably ineffective. Not only were European Jews deeply inhospitable to Christianity after the Holocaust, but the Israeli state impeded missionary work, placing sharp legal limits on proselytizing and even attempting to limit Christian Bible shipments. Moreover, the Ottoman millet system, which broke citizens into fixed religious groupings, made little space for either conversion or even non-indigenous Christian groups. (Absurdly, Southern Baptists and Lutherans fell under the authority of the Jewish Chief Rabbinate, which refused to perform their marriages, making it impossible for American Protestants to wed in Israel until the mid-fifties.)

More surprisingly, some missionaries found themselves doubting the morality of their efforts. They “sparred with” Jewish academics in Jerusalem, and had their eyes opened to the long history of Christian anti-Semitism, the Jewish background to the Gospels, and the importance of Zionism in Israeli Jewish life. Some began to argue for a shift from converting to what they called “witnessing”: this meant downplaying conversion, embracing Zionism, and honoring Jewish history and culture. American evangelicals like Robert Lindsey started making a point of Jesus’s speaking Hebrew, for instance, and urged their peers to forgo missions. This shift was highly controversial. So, as Hummel documents, Carl Henry, the editor of Christianity Today and mid-century evangelical leaders, warred with Donn Odell, his pro-Israel correspondent in Jerusalem, over how to cover Israeli anti-missionary measures. Odell called for “simple, loving witness for Christ… with no connection to foreign missions” and attempted to enlist U.S. support for Israel during the Suez Crisis. But Henry ignored geopolitics and focused his magazine’s coverage, Hummel writes, on “a critical view of religious liberty in the country.” This split was to play out frequently over the coming decades.

On the fringes, “witnessing” even affirmed the religious validity of Judaism. Invented by the Anglo-Irish theologian John Nelson Darby, the theology of covenantal dualism posited “separate eternal states for Israel and the church” — that is, that Jews could be saved without becoming Christians.

Magarik finally gets around to mentioning Darby, but apparently doesn't realize how long ago Darby lived???

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Though this dualism never became mainstream, it constantly hung around the edges of Christian Zionism. Christian Zionists were frequently attacked as heretical by other Christians. For instance, the televangelist Billy Graham, an enthusiastic supporter of Israel, faced repeated critique for disavowing Jewish conversion.

As Magarik admits, this dualism never became mainstream. There are still plenty of other Christian Zionists who believe that Jews, despite being "God's chosen people" and thus entitled to the land of Israel, must accept Jesus as their Messiah in order to go to heaven.

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Far from being anti-Semitic, Christian Zionism was fostered and shaped by American Jews and the Israeli government. Institutions like the American Institute of Holy Land Studies — a Christian college in Jerusalem that emphasized Jewish history and whose founder, G. Douglas Young, publically prayed for Israel during the 1967 war as his students drove ambulances through the city — persuaded Israeli officials that Christianity, far from representing a missionary threat, in fact represented an untapped base of support in America. Soon, more than “half of the institute’s lecturers… were Israeli scholars or government officials.”

Particularly after 1967, Israel targeted American evangelicals for tourism, with the Ministry of Tourism and El Al Airlines producing pamphlets promising that visitors could “relive the biblical epics.” This influence shaped the direction of the movement. Despite the apocalypticist Hal Lindsey’s massive reach in the United States, the Israeli government preferred Christian Zionists motivated by pragmatism and philo-Semitism, and they effectively marginalized Lindsey’s presence in the tour industry. . In the United States, Rabbi Marc Tanenbaum advised Billy Graham and other Christian leaders on how to speak and write about Israel. He was not always successful, but sometimes he wrote the words they preached. Liberal cavils about Christian Zionism’s anti-Semitism often miss that the movement has been in significant part created and shaped by Jews.

The movement has certainly been influenced by Jews and by the Israeli government, but it's a great exaggeration to say that it was "created by" Jews.

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The final chapters of Hummel’s book trace the rise of the Christian Right and the recent globalization of Christian Zionism. The first story will be familiar to many readers: the backlash, led by Jerry Falwell, against racial integration and the Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade decision, the increasingly strident involvement of evangelicals in American politics, and the alliance Ronald Reagan and Menachem Begin forged between the American and Israeli right wings, both newly dependent on religious voters and activists.

Liberal Jews today judge Christian Zionism by these right-wing leaders, like Falwell, who notoriously declared that the anti-Christ would have to be Jewish, and Pastor John Hagee, who has implicitly blamed the Holocaust on its Jewish victims. But even here, centering covert anti-Semitism misses the most interesting stories. Although Hagee is best known for his end-time prophecies, Hummel shows his success has far more to do with his championing of the prosperity gospel. Give to Israel, he preaches, and you will become rich. The Christian Right is far more motivated by capitalist ideology like Hagee’s and by the ideology of a Judeo-Christian civilizational alliance against Muslims than it is by wilder, apocalyptic prophecies.

Yes, many Christian Zionists are motivated, at least in part, by the belief that they must "bless Israel" in order to be "blessed" themselves.

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But more importantly, Hagee and Falwell are no longer the most important Christian Zionist leaders. The center of the movement has shifted overseas. When Hummel visited the “International Christian Embassy’s Feast of Tabernacles celebration,” he heard a Nigerian preacher addressing an international audience, with only a muted American presence.

Indeed the center of evangelical Christianity, more generally, has shifted to the global South.

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The global movement emphasizes Jewish-Christian “reconciliation” and a shared biblical inheritance, often rejecting end-times prophecies. They also associate Israel with far-right, ultra-nationalist politics, as when the Brazilian Pentacostalist Rene Terra Nova “administered a mass baptism in the Jordan river to a group of Brazilian tourists before leading a chant in support” of fascist leader Jair Bolsanaro — a gathering that reached large Brazilian audiences through social media.

Not surprising, alas. Various fascist leaders around the world have harnessed some forms of evangelical Christianity.

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Hummel has written a masterful, very readable book that manages at once to mount a surprising argument and tell compelling narrative history. Nor is he an apologist for Christian Zionism: he emphasizes repeatedly the “dark underside of reconciliation” between Jews and Christian Zionists in “the erasure of concern for Arab Christians and… Palestinians.” That critique is inescapable and damning, though of course it applies to Graham, Falwell, and Hagee not because they are Christians, but because they are Zionists.

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Reading Hummel, I realized that liberal Jews prefer to imagine Christian Zionists as anti-Jewish because we find it painful to confront the sincerity and integrity of their Zionism. We would prefer to think of their Islamophobia and imperialism as “Christian” and quarantine the American right from Jewish concerns and interests. We would prefer not to reckon with the fact that Israel has become the central symbolic cause of the world’s political right. We would prefer to deny what Christian Zionists announce loudly and repeatedly — that they reject Christian anti-Semitism and love Jews — because we are ashamed to be loved by such people.

I think I see what Magarik is trying to get at here. It is true, for example, that right wing Jewish and Christian Zionists collaborated in whipping up Islamophobia in the U.S.A. after 9/11.

I think Magarik's argument is correct up to a point, but he oversimplifies it.

He concludes by saying, to left-leaning Jewish Zionists:

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Progressive Jews caricature Christian Zionism only partly because we so poorly understand evangelicalism. More deeply, we do so because we would rather not understand why Zionism is so attractive to the Christian Right, for to do so would prompt too many questions about our own Zionism.

(I myself had an evangelical Christian upbringing, but gave up Christianity at the age of 15.)


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28 Dec 2023, 4:00 am

Above, I commented on a review of Covenant Brothers: Evangelicals, Jews, And U.S.-Israeli Relations, by Daniel G. Hummel, University of Pennsylvania Press.

Below are some articles by Daniel G. Hummel, an evangelical Christian theologian who has studied the history of Christian Zionism:

- The Little-Known History of Evangelicals’ Changing Israel Views, Christianity Today, October 2023. (Observes that evangelical Christians today have a wide variety of views about Israel/Palestine, ranging from strongly pro-Israel to strongly pro-Palestinian, with the pro-Israel faction being much bigger and stronger.)
- Israel’s Current Crisis Exposes Christian Zionism’s Contradictory Ideals: "Evangelical supporters of the country, who have long taken sides in the country’s politics, are neutral about the recent political unrest," New Lines, July 27, 2023
- Left Behind: What does it profit a theological tradition to gain Hollywood but lose its soul?, Current, May 1, 2023
- When the Best Bible-Reading Tool Made Bible Reading Worse, Christianity Today, December 2022
- Christian Zionism: It’s one of the most successful, and in some ways unlikely, interfaith movements in the modern world - aeon, 26 September 2018
- The New Christian Zionism, First Things, June 2017. (Observes that Christian Zionism is no longer just an American thing or even just a Western thing. There are now growing numbers of Christian Zionists among Pentecostal/Charismatic Christians in the global South.)

See also the following reviews of The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism: How the Evangelical Battle over the End Times Shaped a Nation by Daniel G. Hummel:

- Review by Kenneth J. Stewart, thelemios (The Gospel Coalition)
- The End of Dispensationalism by Joel Looper, in First Things, June 2023

And here is a more complete list of Daniel Hummel's writings.

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- The Surprising Staying Power of Dispensationalism: "As a school of theology, it’s in decline. As a cultural and political force, it’s more influential than ever," by Bonnie Kristian, Christianity Today, August 8, 2023.


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28 Dec 2023, 9:33 am

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The title of that video (produced by Al Jazeera) is "Why do evangelical Christians support Israel?"

That title should have been, "Why do many evangelical Christians support Israel?" An obvious exception is the interviewee himself, Jonathan Kuttab, who is introduced as being, among other things, "on the board of Bethlehem Bible College" -- an evangelical Christian college in Bethlehem, Palestine.

Jonathan Kuttab is also an international human rights lawyer, and an advocate of nonviolent resistance, e.g. BDS. He was a co-founder of a Palestinian human rights group, Al Haq, which the Israeli government has designated -- apparently falsely, as far as I can tell -- as a "terrorist" organization. See:

- United Nations press release, UN experts condemn Israel’s designation of Palestinian human rights defenders as terrorist organisations, 25 October 2021
- Six Palestinian rights groups labeled as terrorist orgs by Kevin Zeller, November 8, 2021
- Al-Haq Co-Founder on Israel’s Designation of Group as “Terrorist Organization”, Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, December 23, 2021
- An Update on Israel’s Terrorist Designation for Palestinian Civil Society Organizations by Jonathan Kuttab, Aug 3, 2022
- Important Update: Nonviolence International Stands in Solidarity with Al-Haq by David Hart, August 5, 2022

Jonathan Kuttab is also the author of a book, Beyond the Two-State Solution, which has the following synopsis:

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Zionism and Palestinian Nationalism have been at loggerheads for over a century. Some thought the two-state solution would resolve the situtation. Jonathan explains that the two-state solution is no longer viable. He suggests that any solution be predicated on the basic existential needs of the two parties, needs he lays out in exceptional detail. He formulates a way forward for a 1-state solution that challenges both Zionism and Palestinian Nationalism. This book invites readers to begin a new conversation based on reality: two peoples will need to live together in some sort of unified state. It is balanced and accessible to neophytes and to experts alike.

(Request to all: Please don't use this thread to debate two-state vs. one-state solutions. I'll be starting a separate thread about that issue later today. Or feel free to start such a thread yourself.)


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28 Dec 2023, 9:48 pm

Looking at the Wikipedia article on Christian Zionism, I see that it is older than John Nelson Darby. Christian Zionism, also known as "restorationism," isn't "millenia" old (as was erroneously claimed by a writer I quoted in an earlier post), but it does go all the way back to the Puritans, about 400 years ago.

Darby's innovation was the theological framework known as dispensationalism, which was subsequently used in the Scofield Reference Bible, which helped to popularize Christian Zionism in the U.S.A.

Anyhow, there are many varieties of Christian Zionism. Not all of them are apocalyptic.

A less complete history of Christian Zionism can be found in Rev. Sizer Reveals Christian Zionism Preceded Jewish Zionism, Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, December 14, 2018. This one starts with Napoleon Bonaparte, who was the first head of a powerful European state to announce an intention to create a Jewish state in Palestine.

(By the way, the "London Jewish Society" referred to in Sizer's article was apparently NOT a Jewish group, but another name for the "London Jews Society," a.k.a. the "London Society for Promoting Christianity Amongst the Jews," an Anglican Christian org that aimed both to convert Jews to Christianity and to "encourage the physical restoration of the Jewish people to Eretz Israel - the Land of Israel." See Wikipedia article on Church's Ministry Among Jewish People -- the current name of that org.)


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Here is a Publisher's Weekly review of the book Decolonizing Palestine: The Land, the People, the Bible by Mitri Raheb:

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In this thought-provoking analysis, pastor Raheb (The Politics of Persecution) unpacks the American Christian right’s use and misuse of biblical notions to justify Israel’s “settler colonization” of Palestine. Reaching back to the Second Great Awakening in the U.S. and Europe, Raheb explains that 19th-century evangelicals who believed Christ’s return was imminent displayed a “renewed interest” in the Jews, as their return to Israel was a biblical prerequisite for Christ’s second coming. And in the 1960s, the “Zionist political narrative of ‘unity of God, land, and people’ ” was popularized in American “Anglo-Saxon churches” and espoused by the likes of Christian theologian Karl Barth, who viewed Israel’s new statehood as a “sign of God’s faithfulness to the seeds of Abraham.” Decades later, Zionism was embraced by such conservative politicians as Mike Pence and Donald Trump, whose kinship with Israeli leadersis rooted in the country’s appeal to an evangelical base and in America’s own colonial history (Raheb points out that both the U.S. and Israel “are settler nations who occupied the lands of native peoples and pushed those people into small reservations”). Though he fails to adequately account for antisemitism on the American right, Raheb skillfully illuminates links between Christian Zionism, American exceptionalism, and “biblical concepts like ‘God’s chosen people’ and ‘land promise,’ ” showing how the boundaries between theology, politics, and identity have been muddied and continually renegotiated. This is sure to spark conversation.


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Wondering about the Roman Catholic Church's position on Zionism, I dug up the following:

- Declaration on the Relation of the Church to Non-Christian Religions: NOSTRA AETATE: Proclaimed by His Holiness Pope Paul VI, on October 28, 1965.
- Wikipedia article on Religious anti-Zionism, including a section on Catholic anti-Zionism, which was the official position of the Catholic Church until the 1960's.
- The Vatican, American Catholics and the Struggle for Palestine, 1917-1958: A Study of Cold War Roman Catholic Transnationalism by Adriano E. Ciani, 2011, Electronic Thesis and Dissertation Repository.
- Guidelines for Catholic-Jewish Relations, United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, 1985 Revision.
- The New Catholic Zionism by Gavin D’Costa, Mosaic, September 9, 2019. (The author is professor of Catholic theology at the University of Bristol (UK). He advises the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of England and Wales and the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue in Vatican City. His latest book, Catholic Doctrines on the Jewish People after the Second Vatican Council, is forthcoming later this year from Oxford University Press.)
- The Church and Minimalist Catholic Zionism? by Gavin D'Costa, October 2019.
- Catholic Zionism: The Jewish state is a sign of God's fidelity by Gavin D’Costa, First Things, January 2020.
- The emergence of Catholic Zionism (1948-2005): an examination of the theological position implicitly or explicitly held by the authoritative Magisterium of the Catholic Church vis-à-vis Zionism between 1948 and 2005 by Alex J Bellew, master's thesis in religion and philosophy, University of Bristol, 2021.
- The Vatican and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Diocesan News, Catholic Diocese of Raleigh (North Carolina), October 12, 2023.
- The Catholic Church, the Jewish People, and the Current Gaza War by Tzvi Novick, Church Life Journal (A Journal of the McGrath Institute for Church Life), November 28, 2023.

I'll summarize and comment later, after I've read this stuff (or as much of it as I can).


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Brief summary of above articles:

Several of these articles claim that, since the end of World War II and even more so since the Second Vatican Council in the 1960's, there has been a gradual evolution of Catholic doctrine in regard to its attitude toward Jews and Judaism. It is claimed that there has been a gradual evolution away from "supercessionism" or "replacement theology," which is the idea that the "Old Covenant" (with Jews and Israel) became null and void when the vast majority of Jews rejected Jesus as their Messiah, and was replaced by a "New Covenant" with the Christian Church. Catholic doctrine is alleged to be evolving toward a dual-covenant theology, in which both "covenants" are deemed to be valid.

However, when I looked into this further, it appeared that any move by the Catholic Church toward dual-covenant theology has been halted, at least for now. According to the Wikipedia article on Dual-covenant theology, the 2006 edition of the United States Catholic Catechism for Adults contained the following paragraph endorsing dual-covenant theology:

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The covenant that God made with the Jewish people through Moses remains eternally valid for them.

However, according to that same Wikipedia page:

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In June 2008 the bishops decided by a vote of 231-14 to remove this from the next printing of the Catechism, because it could be construed to mean that Jews have their own path to salvation and do not need Christ or the Church. In August 2009, the Vatican approved the change.

See also:

- Did Vatican II Change the Doctrine of Supersessionism? by Rory Fox, Catholic Stand, 7 January 2023.
- The Heresy of Dual-Covenant Theology by Brother André Marie, Catholicism.org, Jan 28, 2008.

Be that as it may: Catholic theologian Gavin D’Costa, a strong proponent of dual-covenant theology, argues also that God's promises to Abraham about the land of Israel are still valid. And, on that basis, he advocates a form of Zionism.

But he also says that the rights and well-being of
Palestinians are important too. He appears to advocate a two-state solution.

Be that as it may: Gavin D’Costa has also written the following review of three books about Christian Zionism: A New Zionism, First Things, June 2018.


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