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24 Jan 2024, 3:42 am

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Not making a system to force people to be together. I'm making a system to OFFER them opportunity.
What penalties would you impose on those who decline your offer?  What penalties would you impose on someone who accepted the offer, only to find out later that the person they were paired with was an uneducated idealist with no job, no income, and no future?
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Everyone will be assigned in the database and loneliness will be much lower than under a capitalist system.
Are you saying that people would be entered into this database without their consent?

It seems that you have not though out this "system" as much as you imply.


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24 Jan 2024, 3:42 am

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Uuuuh, most teenagers are hooking up these days and have for literally generations.

That alone is reason enough for society in general to reject this entire concept of government matchmakers.


And they can do that but sexual intimacy is to be prohibited for any underaged individual! It will only increase cases of PTSD and unwanted pregnancies among the teenage population. Best if they have a restricted form of intimacy such as hug and kiss.

Never going to happen. It goes against the very laws of nature - human sexuality, puberty/hormones, etc. Young people are going to hookup. It's what they do and what comes natural to people. Making it illegal would deter people from this system. People would still hookup - they'd just be criminals in your eyes. Prohibiting something as natural as teenage sex is never ever going to fly.


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24 Jan 2024, 3:42 am

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I fail to see how that addresses what I said, which is that your government wouldn't be entitled to force the winery to change their name just because they wanted to use it for a department.


The Marof winery isn't of that much significance. How can they even try and defeat the government if I can make the government send the military if they smack talk about the name that has NOTHING to do with a winery.


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24 Jan 2024, 3:43 am

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How is abortion at an early stage of pregnancy now considered "murder"?
It has been that way for millenia.

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What, you want to have a baby who is unhealthy and has complications because her mother was underaged and wasn't fully developed?!
Children of first-degree incest are not always unhealthy.

You, being only 18, have not likely made enough of a study of the sciences (including the social sciences) to know what you are talking about.


I didn't graduate. Also, give me one valid reason on why abortion is murder.

In the United States, there is a debate about whether, once sperm and egg unite, they possess life - that is, the right not to be aborted.


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24 Jan 2024, 3:43 am

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And I also thank you for saying that Tito would be proud of me. You have acknowledged the positivity that Josip Broz Tito is watching from the skies and smiling as I make people happy with my own socialism which is truly humane!
Tito was a tyrannical dictator who enslaved his people and drove his country's economy into the ground.


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24 Jan 2024, 3:44 am

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Uuuuh, most teenagers are hooking up these days and have for literally generations.

That alone is reason enough for society in general to reject this entire concept of government matchmakers.


And they can do that but sexual intimacy is to be prohibited for any underaged individual! It will only increase cases of PTSD and unwanted pregnancies among the teenage population. Best if they have a restricted form of intimacy such as hug and kiss.

Never going to happen. It goes against the very laws of nature - human sexuality, puberty/hormones, etc. Young people are going to hookup. It's what they do and what comes natural to people. Making it illegal would deter people from this system. People would still hookup - they'd just be criminals in your eyes. Prohibiting something as natural as teenage sex is never ever going to fly.


They can hug and kiss but sex will not be allowed and I will be forced to get more forestallers to operate if any of them try to show that ugly act of defiance against protection and embracement of the human right to NOT allow underaged sex.


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24 Jan 2024, 3:44 am

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And I also thank you for saying that Tito would be proud of me. You have acknowledged the positivity that Josip Broz Tito is watching from the skies and smiling as I make people happy with my own socialism which is truly humane!
Tito was a tyrannical dictator who enslaved his people and drove his country's economy into the ground.


Any proof?


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24 Jan 2024, 3:45 am

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Yugoslav1945 wrote:
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Yugoslav1945 wrote:
How is abortion at an early stage of pregnancy now considered "murder"?
It has been that way for millenia.

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What, you want to have a baby who is unhealthy and has complications because her mother was underaged and wasn't fully developed?!
Children of first-degree incest are not always unhealthy.

You, being only 18, have not likely made enough of a study of the sciences (including the social sciences) to know what you are talking about.


I didn't graduate. Also, give me one valid reason on why abortion is murder.

In the United States, there is a debate about whether, once sperm and egg unite, they possess life - that is, the right not to be aborted.


Are you talking about that Roe v Wade thing that was overturned in favor of the Republicans?


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24 Jan 2024, 3:46 am

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funeralxempire wrote:
I fail to see how that addresses what I said, which is that your government wouldn't be entitled to force the winery to change their name just because they wanted to use it for a department.


The Marof winery isn't of that much significance. How can they even try and defeat the government if I can make the government send the military if they smack talk about the name that has NOTHING to do with a winery.


Do you not realize how unhinged you sound suggesting that this is an appropriate response to a winery wanting their intellectual property to not be stolen from them?

Jeez, you can use the courts to tell them they have no case (forcing them to share the name), you don't need to steal the name, let alone send armed goons.


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24 Jan 2024, 3:47 am

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Besides, if you are going to call your plan "MAROF", then you should consider your country's copyright laws.

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MAROF winery has put the north-eastern Slovenian region of Goričko on the map of wine excellence following a century-long standstill. It is a story of family, legacy and love for the nature.
-- Source:  Marof Winery 


Easy solution. Just threaten the company to change its name to something else. Can't copyright strike us if their name doesn't match ours.
You have just advocated for violence against an established business.

Reported.


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24 Jan 2024, 3:48 am

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goldfish21 wrote:
Yugoslav1945 wrote:
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Uuuuh, most teenagers are hooking up these days and have for literally generations.

That alone is reason enough for society in general to reject this entire concept of government matchmakers.


And they can do that but sexual intimacy is to be prohibited for any underaged individual! It will only increase cases of PTSD and unwanted pregnancies among the teenage population. Best if they have a restricted form of intimacy such as hug and kiss.

Never going to happen. It goes against the very laws of nature - human sexuality, puberty/hormones, etc. Young people are going to hookup. It's what they do and what comes natural to people. Making it illegal would deter people from this system. People would still hookup - they'd just be criminals in your eyes. Prohibiting something as natural as teenage sex is never ever going to fly.


They can hug and kiss but sex will not be allowed and I will be forced to get more forestallers to operate if any of them try to show that ugly act of defiance against protection and embracement of the human right to NOT allow underaged sex.


If you think your 'forestallers' will accomplish what parents have failed to for centuries, you can't be that familiar with teenagers.


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24 Jan 2024, 3:48 am

funeralxempire wrote:
Yugoslav1945 wrote:
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I fail to see how that addresses what I said, which is that your government wouldn't be entitled to force the winery to change their name just because they wanted to use it for a department.


The Marof winery isn't of that much significance. How can they even try and defeat the government if I can make the government send the military if they smack talk about the name that has NOTHING to do with a winery.


Do you not realize how unhinged you sound suggesting that this is an appropriate response to a winery wanting their intellectual property to not be stolen from them?

Jeez, you can use the courts to tell them they have no case (forcing them to share the name), you don't need to steal the name, let alone send armed goons.


Sounds like a good solution. I shall consider the peaceful approach of forbidding that winery from trying to copyright strike my MAROF institution it takes NO centimeter of inspiration from those alcoholic goons.


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24 Jan 2024, 3:48 am

Yugoslav1945 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
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And I also thank you for saying that Tito would be proud of me. You have acknowledged the positivity that Josip Broz Tito is watching from the skies and smiling as I make people happy with my own socialism which is truly humane!
Tito was a tyrannical dictator who enslaved his people and drove his country's economy into the ground.
Any proof?
History.


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24 Jan 2024, 3:50 am

funeralxempire wrote:
Yugoslav1945 wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Yugoslav1945 wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Uuuuh, most teenagers are hooking up these days and have for literally generations.

That alone is reason enough for society in general to reject this entire concept of government matchmakers.


And they can do that but sexual intimacy is to be prohibited for any underaged individual! It will only increase cases of PTSD and unwanted pregnancies among the teenage population. Best if they have a restricted form of intimacy such as hug and kiss.

Never going to happen. It goes against the very laws of nature - human sexuality, puberty/hormones, etc. Young people are going to hookup. It's what they do and what comes natural to people. Making it illegal would deter people from this system. People would still hookup - they'd just be criminals in your eyes. Prohibiting something as natural as teenage sex is never ever going to fly.


They can hug and kiss but sex will not be allowed and I will be forced to get more forestallers to operate if any of them try to show that ugly act of defiance against protection and embracement of the human right to NOT allow underaged sex.


If you think your 'forestallers' will accomplish what parents have failed to for centuries, you can't be that familiar with teenagers.


It cannot be the human right for teens to have sex before they turn 18. It just can't. Even if nature says otherwise, human nature is not an excuse for deviance and wanting to cause a nuclear war.


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Fnord wrote:
Yugoslav1945 wrote:
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Besides, if you are going to call your plan "MAROF", then you should consider your country's copyright laws.

Quote:
MAROF winery has put the north-eastern Slovenian region of Goričko on the map of wine excellence following a century-long standstill. It is a story of family, legacy and love for the nature.
-- Source:  Marof Winery 


Easy solution. Just threaten the company to change its name to something else. Can't copyright strike us if their name doesn't match ours.
You have just advocated for violence against an established business.

Reported.


It's pretty clear that he's talking about if he was some hypothetical dictator. Saying he would engage in violence in this hypothetical scenario is not really the same as advocating for violence.

He doesn't have an army to send. He wishes he could send an army.

He should sign-up for http://www.nationstates.net instead of subjecting us to his plans as dictator. :nerdy:


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24 Jan 2024, 3:52 am

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It cannot be the human right for teens to have sex before they turn 18. It just can't. Even if nature says otherwise, human nature is not an excuse for deviance and wanting to cause a nuclear war.


What does teenagers desire to hook-up have to do with nuclear war?


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