I can't stand younger people lecturing older people

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07 Jan 2024, 10:13 am

I don't know what it is but I can't always stand it when there are some younger people who think they know better than those older than them as though they've got less time to think about and do things than they do. I remember someone on the GB news channel expressing concerns over things like declining birth rates and the guy was probably in his 20s and doesn't have kids yet. Obviously I don't know.

Another was someone criticising Taylor Swift for being Person of the Year and talking about how she struggled to hold down a relationship, about how "undateable" she is and the fact that she is in her 30s, isn't married and doesn't have kids. It's like who are those who think they can lecture people how to live a life. I feel this is why I get the thoughts of feeling like "my time is running out" as though I'm wasting it by not being in a relationship, getting married and having kids before going into old age.



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07 Jan 2024, 11:05 am

I also don’t like older people lecturing younger people. One of my favorite quotes from Jane Eyre:

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I do not think, sir, you have any right to command me, merely because you are older than I, or because you have seen more of the world than I have; your claim to superiority depends on the use you have made of your time and experience.

On top of that, we’re all different. No one else can fully know our particular situation or set of circumstances. If someone asks for advice, that’s one thing; giving unsolicited advice is something else.


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07 Jan 2024, 2:51 pm

I'd want to know who was talking. A 20-something with some professional/scientific knowledge of something has a more weighty opinion to me than an older person with a lay persons experience.

It's often said that with age comes wisdom but I tend to think not necessarily.

In fact I know some people who reach adulthood and don't seem to want to learn anything new because they feel their 'wisdom' trumps knowledge. I have very little respect for that.


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08 Jan 2024, 8:39 am

chris1989 wrote:
I remember someone on the GB news channel expressing concerns over things like declining birth rates and the guy was probably in his 20s and doesn't have kids yet. Obviously I don't know.



Someone in his or her twenties would be or definitely should be more concerned about the declining birth rate than someone in his or her forties or fifties.



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08 Jan 2024, 9:25 am

I don't care how old anyone is.
Lecturing is the problem, not age.

Sometimes young people can teach older people important points of view, like tolerance and equality.
Sometimes older people can teach younger people life lessons based on experience.

It's all in the approach.


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08 Jan 2024, 9:26 am

rse92 wrote:
Someone in his or her twenties would be or definitely should be more concerned about the declining birth rate than someone in his or her forties or fifties.


They should be ?

Why?


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08 Jan 2024, 9:28 am

Some of the young people are arrogant, others are wise.

Expressing concern about a lower birth rate, hoping for an increase in the birth rate, and blaming unmarried people are three different concepts.

I am a young man, and I believe that when you choose not to get married, you do not want the world to become worse.

I believe having children and being a soldier have something in common. No one wants to do it but someone has to do it. Based on this realization I would deduce dire measures.

Those who accuse you are wrong. Not thinking about the future is stupied.


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08 Jan 2024, 9:43 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:
rse92 wrote:
Someone in his or her twenties would be or definitely should be more concerned about the declining birth rate than someone in his or her forties or fifties.


They should be ?

Why?

Perhaps because the consequences of aging are the collapse of welfare systems and unmaintained infrastructure, which happens after today's young people get older,while old people have died


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08 Jan 2024, 9:45 am

If people don't want kids they shouldn't have them.
Simples.


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09 Jan 2024, 3:18 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
If people don't want kids they shouldn't have them.
Simples.


While I agree with this, it doesn't mean one can't also recognize the social impacts of many people making that choice.

To some extent society is a pyramid scheme, it starts to not work so well when there aren't enough new subscribers.


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10 Jan 2024, 2:47 am

funeralxempire wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
If people don't want kids they shouldn't have them.
Simples.


While I agree with this, it doesn't mean one can't also recognize the social impacts of many people making that choice.

To some extent society is a pyramid scheme, it starts to not work so well when there aren't enough new subscribers.


Just look what happened with the Pandas.



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10 Jan 2024, 3:44 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
If people don't want kids they shouldn't have them.
Simples.


While I agree with this, it doesn't mean one can't also recognize the social impacts of many people making that choice.

To some extent society is a pyramid scheme, it starts to not work so well when there aren't enough new subscribers.


Just look what happened with the Pandas.


Ironically, porn is helping pandas reproduce. :lol:


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11 Jan 2024, 8:58 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:
rse92 wrote:
Someone in his or her twenties would be or definitely should be more concerned about the declining birth rate than someone in his or her forties or fifties.


They should be ?

Why?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-replacement_fertility

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... ility_rate



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11 Jan 2024, 3:20 pm

The thing is when there is talk about there being more people under 30 or over 30 in the UK having no children and there is still an "expectation" by some, that they are of that age where they need to "get on with it" if they are in a relationship or "hurry" before it's "too late" makes me feel quite frustrated because it makes feel like the 30s, unlike the 20s are not a time to keep thinking about it and that if they want to they have to think about it sooner rather than later.

I'm not a woman but I don't know if this need to worry about this is the same thing as maybe a woman in 30s feels where maybe her instincts are kicking in and making her feel the need to hurry and have kids if she's with a partner but at the same time a part of me is uninterested in having my own children. The thing is feel conflicted between two minds in my head.



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11 Jan 2024, 4:06 pm

Many of the senior people I work with are infact much younger than I am. Generally I find them polite but I can sense they are conceited in that their paper qualification + seniority/research track record make them better than me. A lot of them have very little life experience which is amusing.



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13 Jan 2024, 1:34 am

If people don't want kids, they shouldn't have sex.


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